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View Poll Results: If planning to emigrate or have already emigrated to a foreign land, what is the main reason? | |||
Better career opportunities and/or higher salary | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 32 | 17.98% |
Better infrastructure (roads, clean air, low crime etc) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 70 | 39.33% |
Worried about India's future from kids' PoV (communal strife, education reservations etc) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 53 | 29.78% |
Did not plan / just went with the flow | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 17 | 9.55% |
Other | ![]() ![]() ![]() | 6 | 3.37% |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! I have been following this thread for a long time. There have been valuable advice from many BHPians. Some of the posts by senior members are very balanced and informative, all based on their real life experiences. On the other hand I also do see a lot of biased posts bashing the other side, some getting enraged at anything bad written about a the country they live in, dismissing it as hearsay. I am documenting my experiences on this thread, based on the 4 nations abroad that I lived in, later eventually settling back in India. Each one of these experiences were vastly different from the others. While what I did would not be termed as ‘emigration’ in the literal sense, they were more of deputations abroad for long term projects. My work profile back is primarily Industrial Automation for the manufacturing and process industry.
My opinion on emigration: This is a very personal choice for an individual and would vary a lot from person to person. Each country has good and bad things. It all boils down to what one has as priorities, what matters more and what one can neglect. Every individual views things though their own lens and has his or her own perceptions and bias. Some paint foreign countries as utopia and India as dystopia, some vice-versa, which is not the case. Do what’s best for you. The life experiences I got from staying in different countries are valuable, not in terms of pure work but in terms of knowing how things and people are in different geographies. Why I chose not to emigrate permanently: I had the opportunities to emigrate to Qatar, New Zealand and Netherlands, whose experiences I have documented. In my case, I was very clear that I wanted to experience life abroad but not settle. Did give it some second thoughts during my stint in Netherlands. It all ended up to the point of me being a part of the society there. While I did good in terms of work experiences, I could not assimilate as a part of the western society. Whether its in terms of culture, demographics, language, the feeling of an outsider always persisted. My friend circle was restricted to the Indian populace there. Missing out on festivals, family get togethers felt bad. Most of my immediate family being in India made a big difference here. Talking about racism, while I did not face any outright incidents, the feeling of being an outsider always persisted. Interacting with locals (some, not all), I could feel a sense of superiority in them, and that coupled with the occasional comments on our culture/country, the facial expressions conveyed the message. On the other hand, my colleague emigrated permanently as for him he was able to assimilate as a part of the local culture, and the subtle racism was something he could neglect. I rather decided to come back and am very content with my decision. Last edited by benbsb29 : 14th October 2024 at 05:27. Reason: Added spacing for improved readability. |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Very well presented with all the necessary facts. I vouch for what is mentioned for Qatar. This goes well for the whole Middle East region too. As for emigration, Qatar and other middle eastern nations don't count in, including Dubai. We cannot emigrate to these lands. Yes, we can work and live with families, get the kids educated in Indian schools and go on paid annual vacations but that's about that. Hardly any one gets a permanent residency in here and one fine day, either by choice or compulsion, we have to leave these places. With the local populace being preferred especially for the mid level managerial jobs, staying here on long term is a distant dream. Gone are the days when expats from India would live for 30 to 40 years in Middle East. To emigrate, currently Canada is the easiest option, initial struggles notwithstanding. Also, Emigrating to European nations, AUS/NZ, North America is viable on a long term basis with a view to get a PR/ Passport and securing a future for kids. |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Quote:
Hello, thankyou so much for your offer. I would really like to arrange a meet. I am currently staying in Stuttgart and working as an intern in Dr. Ing. h.c.F. Porsche AG in a similar field but I frequently travel to Ingolstadt. Maybe we can plan to meet in München. Please feel free to reach out to me at drexler1789@gmail.com (Apologies for the weird email address, I primarily use it for open web interactions!) Thankyou to other BHPians who gave me valuable advice. I am immensely grateful to all the BHPians who took the time out of their lives to guide me through my decision. Update: I am currently living in Stuttgart (Home to Automotive OEMs like Mercedes and Porsche) while also pursuing my Masters Degree. I am also working as an Intern in Porsche AG as a Simulation Intern in Vehicle Safety as stated above. The experience so far has been more than amazing! Would love to share my experience without breaching the data privacy / confidentiality agreements at a later date. PS: I get to drive Porsche 911s! Stuttgart is a amazing city but not as good as München in my view ![]() Now the Automotive Industry in Germany has posed some different challenges for me. As I complete my Masters, current German Automotive Industry has decided to undergo a major recession and have been cutting down on projects left and right. This led to major cutting down in workforces across all OEMs as well as Tier 1 suppliers (reference). It has become difficult for young engineers like me who want to enter into the Automotive Industry in Germany right now even after the fact that I am very much proficient in German as well as have a good experience of 3-4 years in this field. Would love to gain valuable insights from experienced engineers as well as experts in the field during these difficult times. PS: I am sorry for replying after a very long time. I have been reflecting on what I want in my career and had been working for the same. Emotionally I am doing much better as well. Thankyou and Servus! (a bavarian greeting) Yash MODs: Please feel free to remove any data that is not relevant to the topic. | |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! About 2 weeks back, in Hyderabad I was driving with my sister in law, mother in law and my wife who is 6 months pregnant. A Pulsar rider overtaking a TSRTC bus in a blind right turn came right in front of me. I had the presence of mind of slowing down and moved to the left to let him pass. What he did next was park his pulsar in front of my car. Get down and abuse me continuously. When I tried to avoid confrontation he grabbed my door and tried opening it. I was the only male in the car with 3 ladies. He saw that and took full advantage. Continuously abusing me, by God's grace I realised what was happening. He grabbed my door handle and tried to open my door, (basically he wanted a fight) and I locked my car and waited for him to leave. Why am I paying taxes? Where are the traffic cops? What kind of driving culture are we promoting in india? I quietly left the place, knowing the well being of my family and my pregnant wife was more important than any strangers "dada giri". I am deeply saddened. My mother-in-law was in tears. I have been consoling her ever since. I have driven a car in many countries and have lived in the gulf from 2009-2019 (10 years) and I have never faced such harrasment. I'm truly shaken and worried about the child coming into this world. Yes India is my homeland but danger is always lurking around the corner. Honestly at what point do our lawmakers take notice? Deeply hurt by this incident. |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land!
Glad that you and your family are fine. Surprised this happened in Hyderabad. While driving discipline is bad, I have found motorists there to be chilled out compared to Delhi or Kolkata |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land!
Hey, I am near Stuttgart too. PM me. Last edited by Turbanator : 22nd December 2024 at 05:56. Reason: Quoted post trimmed. |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Quote:
I moved out of India with the belief that healthcare and law enforcement systems would be more efficient and reliable in First World Countries. However, an accident involving my family has shattered my faith in both (pedestrian hit by a motor car which went out of control due to driver error). For now, I am focused on their recovery and plan to take them to India for further assessment once they are well enough. If you are planning to emigrate: Please review the pros and cons. | |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Quote:
I also find driving in India to be hugely irritating with these "tough guys" who can't imagine how scary a collision, even at low speeds, will be and choose to play a game of chicken with strangers, whether with their vehicles or by acting tough outside of it. Even today I ran into a "gentleman" in an old XUV who got so offended that I was moving left (with my indicator on) when he wanted, no, needed, to go right to make an overtake that he aggressively pushed me off the road twice and then brake checked me afterwards (there was a gap when I started moving to the next lane, but he aggressively closed it). I didn't even cut him off, I just stayed in the right lane, passed those cars and then moved left. I paid him back in kind before turning off the road, but what's the point? These "saars" have nothing better to do, and will amount to nothing more in life, than fighting with random strangers they will never meet again - unlike us, who actually have things to look forward to. They get a false sense of bravado by doing this, instead of using that "courage" to change whatever makes their life so miserable that they find the need to lash out at random people just passing by who don't even know who they are. Or in your assaulter's case, taking the pain of nearly crashing and using that to learn not to overtake long vehicles on a blind curve. At least, that's how I deal with it. I do think there are low lifes like this in every country (I've met my fair share of racist bogans in Sydney), but probably not as much as in India + the other countries have a better support system to avoid such issues from escalating. I wasn't rattled by this, I found it mildly surprising that someone could get so offended over such a nothing event, but that's because I'd already made up my mind to not stress over things like this. This seems to happen every time I go to a certain section of the city, so. Last edited by ampere : 19th March 2025 at 11:30. | |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! ^^^you are saying these road rambos won't amount to anything in life, in this case however, the aggressor was driving a car worth two million rupees. Niceties or even common civil courtesy is irrelevant now. Glad you are safe. |
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! I don't know if this has been addressed earlier in the thread, but fellow BHPians who have chosen between emigration and staying put in the country, how are you evaluating Quality of life for kids, spouse and yourself v/s caring for ageing parents ? I am at that age where I see just too much degradation of quality of life in my current city (pollution, insane traffic, goondaism), and am constantly thinking of emigrating. What keeps me shackled are ageing parents who I have helped with a health emergency twice in the last 7 years - and they are only growing older. How do you solve this conundrum ? I am torn between fulfilling both duties and can't seem to find an answer. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() | Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! I just came across this interesting map. Which companies are most sought after in terms of folks googling for positions per country. ![]() See also https://switchonbusiness.com/company...ts-to-work-for |
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Infractions: 0/1 (5) | Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Quote:
When it is seemingly untrue for India (The Top Company Every Country Wants To Work For), can't believe it for other countries as well. Even if one believes the data, it is irrelevant to anything substantial or crucial. Last edited by ampere : 19th March 2025 at 11:30. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() | Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Quote:
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I can’t judge for most countries, but a few countries that I’m familiar with seem very plausible. For my home country the Netherlands I can well imagine ASML showing up! Jeroen | ||
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| Re: Emigrating to a Foreign Land! Quote:
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![]() ![]() "10_Top-Companies-Australians-Want-to-Work-For" Yeah nah! ![]() "10_Top-Companies-Australians-Googled-with-the-word-careers". Fixed it. ![]() That's all it is. Stores like Coles, Woolies, Bunnings etc. are major employers of teenagers, young-adults or basically anyone looking for a part-time job for example. Obviously they will have more hits in google searches. That has no relation to the implied connection that these are the top companies that Australians WANT to work for. I mean, Atlassian and Canva are usually in the Top 10 companies to work for in Australia list. People need to have a higher level of skill to work there. Coles doesn't need a similar skill level to stock and pack groceries. That's why you have 2800 and 2400 "Company name+Career" searches in Google, but Coles has 24,000 searches! Obviously, Coles has other divisions/roles that require higher skills. However, I'm certain the google searches cited in the report are more on the storefront side. | ||
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