A Yetiguide® to Coffee

rkbharat · 13th July 2010, 09:37

wonderful discussion. This is for all coffee lovers

Rocky_Balboa · 13th July 2010, 10:03

+1 to Gansan.
It only takes about 5 mins on these filters to drip the decoction, reheating would run the taste.

What a timing for this thread Sam!
I bought Arabica coffee powder (from CCD) over the weekend, thinking of putting the filter to good use. I failed in most of the attempts to make a good coffee, but after reading the thread my wifey succeeded in making The Filter Coffee

For the CCD Arabica, I used 3 spoons of coffee powder with half a cup of boiling water to make a good decoction.

ThankYou Sam.

Gansan · 13th July 2010, 10:08

@ghodlur
If the decoction is kept for the entire day, it will naturally be at room temperature. Pour in the required quantity of it in the cup, add sugar and then add the required quantity of milk which is hot enough to compensate for the temperature of the decoction.

No need to keep decoction in the fridge, it is enough if we keep it in a closed container. In case it is kept in the fridge, take it out much before making the coffee so that it will attain room temperature.

We normally prepare decoction once in the morning and again in the afternoon.

@rkbharat
Nice photo. Which place is this?

jaysmokesleaves · 13th July 2010, 11:08

Ive been on a diet of Folgers dark roast for about 10 years now. Have never been able to have nescofi since. Black & Decker sells some very good coffee machines.

Coffee preparation is more like meditation.. if you take interest in it. It gets you into a zone when you begin to smell that aroma.

The black coffee at CCd is terrible.
Barista fares much better... though I feel that the quality of coffee CCd sells has come dowwn quite a bit since they launched.

@RKBharat >> nice pic.. coffee with a view!!

aargee · 13th July 2010, 13:47

@Bharat - That's a fantastic view & yes, thanks for sharing with us & it looks very tempting indeed.
From all this discussion, now I understand why I find the coffee (the decoction) in US to be much much better, infact I drink without milk in US, compared to the one in India.

GTO · 13th July 2010, 13:54

I'm not one who is fussy about the brand or type of coffee. But what I do know is the best coffee in Mumbai is served at Manis & Sharda Bhavan (both typical South Indian restaurants). Unbelievably refreshing, and beats CCD / Barista hands down!

Indian Ranger · 13th July 2010, 14:43

Cothas it is for me in Bangalore. Fantastic coffee powder mixed with Chicory and the mornings are ever pleasant. It is available at all supermarkets across the city. Here is the link for more info:

Cothas

Gansan · 13th July 2010, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by aargee

From all this discussion, now I understand why I find the coffee (the decoction) in US to be much much better, infact I drink without milk in US, compared to the one in India.

I have never seen anyone drinking the decoction neat! Black coffee is different, it is not a concentrate.

I have taken black coffee at CCD and it was no good. In fact, I did not like any of the coffees there. Nowhere near the taste of home made or HSB coffee.

I have a feeling most of the customers at CCD merely pretend to like the coffee, unwilling to accept it is no good after paying hefty prices!

DRIV3R · 13th July 2010, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Gansan

I have a feeling most of the customers at CCD merely pretend to like the coffee, unwilling to accept it is no good after paying hefty prices!

Well, people go there for the ambiance and time pass, rather than their coffee.

navin · 13th July 2010, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Don't be surprised at the title.
And that's why I'm writing this. It's no gourmet guide to good coffee.
And so we begin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Where can you buy roasted coffee beans?
I am very lucky. I am able to buy roasted coffee beans from the COffee Board itself located right next to my office.

Coffee Board,
No 395 B&C, Lamington Road,
Mumbai -400 004
Phone : 022-23821549

Ask and insisit that they sell you roasted beans by the kilo.

Remember, the trick is to buy roasted coffee beans. You will never be able to roast them the right way at home..

Quote:

Originally Posted by kri$hna

A great guide to making coffee Sam !!

Sam you started this without tell me?

Kya bhoolgya?

Coffee board will tell you 1/2 kg prepacks of what they call 100% peaberry but is really 70% (the rest is robusta). For the price it is best VFM roasted bean in INdia today. Too bad the bags are simple plastic bags so unless you have nice aluminum foiled lined vaccum bags dont get more than 1/2 kg it will loose flavour fast.

I enjoy my coffee making process. It is a morning ritual that starts at 5:30am.

I get a coffee roasted by Nandanvan estate, near Kodaikanal in TamilNadu. It retails for about about Rs. 800 for 250gms. Mr. Mariwala is developing some less expensive blends (these will only be available only in powder as they are blends not single plantation bean) as well. The new blends will be designed to work in machines (Jura, Barista, etc..) as well as french presses. I have no commercial interest in this plantation but I believe I will be involved in the tasting processes.

The bigger guys (BBTC, Wayanad, Sahyadri, Balmaadi, etc..) wont do custom roasts or blends and others like naandi (::Naandi Foundation:

are so caught up with their social agendas and other issues that they dont monitor the process. Nandanvan starts with a high grown bean and dry roasts the coffee under controlled conditions not on the highway (where trucks and cars can drive over it).

Marc Tormo (of Mocca Cafe fame) sells his coffee through Good Earth but CONTRARY to what the label tells you this coffee is NOT ORGANIC. Besides the tasting I had at Good Earth told me that the coffee was not 100% Arabica and had atleast 20% (maybe as high as 30%) of Robusta mixed in it.

carboy · 13th July 2010, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

Ive been on a diet of Folgers dark roast for about 10 years now.

I have had a lot of Folgers in the US, but didn't know they are available in India also. Folgers is good as compared to Instant Coffee, but I believe you will enjoy freshly roasted coffee even better. Problem with branded coffee like Folgers is that they are roasted, packed, they are transported, lie with distributors, in shops etc, so typically by the time you get it home, it's quite some time since it's been roasted & ground.
So if you prefer Folgers to Nescafe, it's almost sure that you would enjoy coffee purchased from a local roaster fresh.

jaysmokesleaves · 14th July 2010, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by carboy

I have had a lot of Folgers in the US, but didn't know they are available in India also. Folgers is good as compared to Instant Coffee, but I believe you will enjoy freshly roasted coffee even better. Problem with branded coffee like Folgers is that they are roasted, packed, they are transported, lie with distributors, in shops etc, so typically by the time you get it home, it's quite some time since it's been roasted & ground.
So if you prefer Folgers to Nescafe, it's almost sure that you would enjoy coffee purchased from a local roaster fresh.

Well with all this information about the roasted beans.. im tempted to try it out. However, it pains me to think what will happen of my trusted beautiful Black n Decker that I really enjoy using due to its convenience.

carboy · 14th July 2010, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysmokesleaves

Well with all this information about the roasted beans.. im tempted to try it out. However, it pains me to think what will happen of my trusted beautiful Black n Decker that I really enjoy using due to its convenience.

I am not sure I understand. Why will BlackNDecker not work with locally roasted/ground coffee.

jkdas · 14th July 2010, 09:06

Every time I see this thread I smell fresh coffee ! and then I have to have it ! My manager is gonna kill me when I sneak out!

kri$hna · 14th July 2010, 10:27

After using traditional "Filter" for quite a long time, me and my wife decided we ll try out something different, may be a percolator or French Press, which are available in Coffee day.

After a quick visit to a few CCDs near our home & a small chat with the seller there, we have a few doubts.

The seller was suggesting the percolator instead of french press, reason ->

In the French Press, there is quite some chance that coffee (if finely ground) might seep in through the filter and mix with the decoction, which might not taste well
The friction between the filter mesh & the glass beaker will cause a little wear out & stains of brown coffee, which over time doesnt look good & might cause gaps for the coffee to find its way in decoction again !
Once the filter is damages or needs replacement, its time to change the whole thing

Percolator on the other hand has a permanent filter which can be cleaned with needle pokes and used again & again... only thing that might need replacement is rubber washer, for which they have spares. It can be used for both coarse and fine ground coffee. Takes about 5 mins to make strong decoction for 3 cups!

So coming from a traditional filter, which one would be a better choice ??

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rkbharat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Gurgaon/New Delhi Posts: 1,603 Thanked: 724 Times View My Garage	wonderful discussion. This is for all coffee lovers
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13th July 2010, 10:03	#92
Rocky_Balboa BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Namma Bengalooru Posts: 693 Thanked: 407 Times View My Garage	+1 to Gansan. It only takes about 5 mins on these filters to drip the decoction, reheating would run the taste. What a timing for this thread Sam! I bought Arabica coffee powder (from CCD) over the weekend, thinking of putting the filter to good use. I failed in most of the attempts to make a good coffee, but after reading the thread my wifey succeeded in making The Filter Coffee For the CCD Arabica, I used 3 spoons of coffee powder with half a cup of boiling water to make a good decoction. ThankYou Sam.
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Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,630 Thanked: 5,949 Times	@ghodlur If the decoction is kept for the entire day, it will naturally be at room temperature. Pour in the required quantity of it in the cup, add sugar and then add the required quantity of milk which is hot enough to compensate for the temperature of the decoction. No need to keep decoction in the fridge, it is enough if we keep it in a closed container. In case it is kept in the fridge, take it out much before making the coffee so that it will attain room temperature. We normally prepare decoction once in the morning and again in the afternoon. @rkbharat Nice photo. Which place is this? Last edited by Gansan : 13th July 2010 at 10:10.
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13th July 2010, 11:08	#94
jaysmokesleaves Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mostly Mumbai Posts: 1,701 Thanked: 1,466 Times	Ive been on a diet of Folgers dark roast for about 10 years now. Have never been able to have nescofi since. Black & Decker sells some very good coffee machines. Coffee preparation is more like meditation.. if you take interest in it. It gets you into a zone when you begin to smell that aroma. The black coffee at CCd is terrible. Barista fares much better... though I feel that the quality of coffee CCd sells has come dowwn quite a bit since they launched. @RKBharat >> nice pic.. coffee with a view!!
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aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,355 Thanked: 10,061 Times	@Bharat - That's a fantastic view & yes, thanks for sharing with us & it looks very tempting indeed. From all this discussion, now I understand why I find the coffee (the decoction) in US to be much much better, infact I drink without milk in US, compared to the one in India.
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13th July 2010, 13:54	#96
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,937 Thanked: 322,251 Times View My Garage	I'm not one who is fussy about the brand or type of coffee. But what I do know is the best coffee in Mumbai is served at Manis & Sharda Bhavan (both typical South Indian restaurants). Unbelievably refreshing, and beats CCD / Barista hands down!
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13th July 2010, 14:43	#97
Indian Ranger BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 243 Thanked: 29 Times	Cothas it is for me in Bangalore. Fantastic coffee powder mixed with Chicory and the mornings are ever pleasant. It is available at all supermarkets across the city. Here is the link for more info: Cothas
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	Every time I see this thread I smell fresh coffee ! and then I have to have it ! My manager is gonna kill me when I sneak out!
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14th July 2010, 10:27	#105
kri$hna BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bhagyanagarabad Posts: 229 Thanked: 31 Times View My Garage	Percolator Vs French Press After using traditional "Filter" for quite a long time, me and my wife decided we ll try out something different, may be a percolator or French Press, which are available in Coffee day. After a quick visit to a few CCDs near our home & a small chat with the seller there, we have a few doubts. The seller was suggesting the percolator instead of french press, reason -> In the French Press, there is quite some chance that coffee (if finely ground) might seep in through the filter and mix with the decoction, which might not taste well The friction between the filter mesh & the glass beaker will cause a little wear out & stains of brown coffee, which over time doesnt look good & might cause gaps for the coffee to find its way in decoction again ! Once the filter is damages or needs replacement, its time to change the whole thing Percolator on the other hand has a permanent filter which can be cleaned with needle pokes and used again & again... only thing that might need replacement is rubber washer, for which they have spares. It can be used for both coarse and fine ground coffee. Takes about 5 mins to make strong decoction for 3 cups! So coming from a traditional filter, which one would be a better choice ??
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