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Old 5th April 2018, 14:35   #226
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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/63621241.cms

I think a 5 years sentence is a bit on the higher side. I personally feel a year or two and a heavy fine should have been apt.

P.S: Since Black buck was referred too in this thread, so posted this update. Mods can delete this if deemed unnecessary.

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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/63621241.cms

I think a 5 years sentence is a bit on the higher side. I personally feel a year or two and a heavy fine should have been apt.
This news is related to the verdict of "Blackbuck poaching case". Salaman Khan's drunk driving & hit-and-run case was a different case.
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This news is related to the verdict of "Blackbuck poaching case". Salaman Khan's drunk driving & hit-and-run case was a different case.
Or this thread could be renamed as Salman Khan cases
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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

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I think a 5 years sentence is a bit on the higher side. I personally feel a year or two and a heavy fine should have been apt.
This thread was started in 2015 when he got 5 years for driving over people in his SUV. What happened later? He got away free.

Now he gets 5 years for killing a blackbuck. What will happen later? Most probably he will escape by appealing.
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This thread was started in 2015 when he got 5 years for driving over people in his SUV. What happened later? He got away free.

Now he gets 5 years for killing a blackbuck. What will happen later? Most probably he will escape by appealing.

+100 Samurai

In all earnest, I really believe in the fact that he would make upwards of 5000 crores by the time the proposed conviction is over.

In a country where a Being Human (pun intended) who killed multiple people was allowed to be part of the biggest industry & make insane money, there is no way he would even remotely serve the sentence for killing some animals!!

Animals are still considered quite insignificant form of life by many significant folks
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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

What really happened.... it was the blackbuck that drove Salman's SUV over the pavement and killed those 7 homeless people. That is why Salman Bhai was acquitted in that case. But Bhai being Bhai couldn't tolerated the false accusations, so he went ahead and killed the blackbuck in retaliation. As a result Bhai got a sentence of 5 years today.

Now some of you might wonder that the blackbuck was killed in 1998 and the SUV driving over people happened in 2002. That is very logical and all, but this is Bhai we are talking about. Like any of his movies, there is no logic in his real life too.
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What really happened.... it was the blackbuck that drove Salman's SUV over the pavement and killed those 7 homeless people. That is why Salman Bhai was acquitted in that case. But Bhai being Bhai couldn't tolerated the false accusations, so he went ahead and killed the blackbuck in retaliation. As a result Bhai got a sentence of 5 years today.

Now some of you might wonder that the blackbuck was killed in 1998 and the SUV driving over people happened in 2002. That is very logical and all, but this is Bhai we are talking about. Like any of his movies, there is no logic in his real life too.
On a lighter note:

2002: Bhai's T Footpathzoomer (A.K.A Landcruiser) was in autopilot/semi self driven (yes, way back then), and due to a puncture veered off the road, climbed footpath/steps of the bakery and mowed down people. Bhai being a man with golden heart didn't want the tech and it's inventor go down the drain so took it upon himself.

1998: Black buck and the Chinkaras seeing actresses Neelam, Sonali and Tabu being more beautiful and slender than them, bit themselves to make sure it isn't a dream and then died of natural causes (succumbed to their bites).


P.S: With due respect to Salman and his loyal fans (I being one of them). Let's hope for the best, his appeal will be heard tomorrow I guess.
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Mockery of justice all the way. 20 years to process a case where the facts were probably never in doubt to begin with, no real consequences expected from the conviction and the convict gets to appeal immediately, in a country where under-trials often die in jail awaiting their day in court. Forgive the hyperbole but the absolute hypocrisy of the situation isn't (or shouldn't be) lost on anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

Justice delayed, denied plus made a mockery of for good measure. Another pit where our hard earned money is being sunk while the average Joe taxpayer gets called unpatriotic for simply demanding accountability.

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And there goes the PR machinery in full swing. Won't be surprised if some or all of these opinion pieces start plugging upcoming projects and product endorsements

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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

An article in Firstpost says among other things:

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Even if he gets bail again, his sentence gets suspended and he is let by a higher court, Khan has already paid for his karma. For almost 20 years, he has lived in the shadow of uncertainty, the fear of a life spent in jail.

Look at the compromises he has made, the egos he has massaged, the feet he has touched, the people he has managed through pleas and supplications, by surrendering his own ego. Imagine the pain of putting out a charitable face just to evoke the pity of the public and the justice system. Yes, Khan has already been punished.
Link here: https://www.firstpost.com/india/salm...r-4419547.html

It is like saying the politician villain in an 80s Hindi potboiler suffered enough by being punched a few times by the hero in the climax scene after running scot free for decades.

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The media's fiery passion for actors and actresses is a love story made of the stuff of legends, they intrude into the lives of such people, they get harmed and get their cameras broken in the process, they write heated articles of rejection and yet when the time comes they fall into a warm embrace with their idols and support them to the hilt.

In a country known for acceptable, if not great moral standards compared to the rest of the earth, be it towards animals or people.. I find it quite shocking that people forgive their idols be it cricketers, actors or basically anyone who gives them a few hours of passive entertainment.

At the end of the day I know that everyone is a human being, albeit with varying degrees of insight about life. Since the stone ages the end goal has always been about having a peaceful, inclusive society and about having a symbiotic connection with earth, thus crimes of such a nature will always be questioned, why not?

This may be off-topic but since the last case was connected very much to cars and driving and since a mockery was made of that case, I feel this case too is quite relevant in telling us how the justice system works in India. In this colorful tapestry called life I see that everything is connected and without an extremely strong moral uprising and judicial system, there is no way for the fibres of society to stay intact. As for this, justice is not served, only the first step in the complete escape and acquittal of "being human" has been taken.
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No wonder Indian "entertainers" / actors find politics as their second calling.

#beinghuman was PR spin and as many "panelists" on news channels were pontificating as that trait should be sufficient to erase his crime. Then why be indignant when a senior politico's states after rape Bacchae hain Galti ho gayee.

And so many held belief that at 30 he was baccha!
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And so many held belief that at 30 he was baccha!
I am not sure about how it is about the age, but considering his antics he could be projected as a juvenile as well. You never know what kind of evidence will be brought next.
He might be the original poster boy for Shahid Afridi in terms of age.
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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

Indian courts, Judges and Ministers of Law should hang their head in shame. 20 years for a open and shut case? Our courts are more interested in hearing cases like "Should food be allowed in a theatre", or even the supreme court is willing to hear a Bail plea of a former minister at Midnight, but a straightforward case of who shot the black buck and how much time should he go to jail takes 20 years.

Just to give an example: OJ simpson case where he murdered his wife took 11 months in court!

Wake up your honors in the courts, before we start running kangaroo courts.

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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

The sad thing is that despite the conviction after 20+ years, this is just a trial court. He will get a stay and bail in a day or two - and the appeals will take another 15 years to be heard. Rich and influential criminals have nothing to worry about in India
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re: Salman Khan's criminal cases. EDIT: Gets bail in blackbuck case

He got bail with a 50k bond. ( Edit: BTW, why wouldn't the court demand an astronomical number? it'd anyway be surely paid.)

This person has got the kind of fan following across the world of people who have (figuratively) endless resources including - not just India, but also the Arab nations - OPECs.

In any case, this emboldens other corporate media hyped 'entertainers' to adopt a similar path & grow their influence in a similar manner.

Guess this case will be used widely as a citation by undertrials against whom there's a 'reasonable' doubt of them being innocent.

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