[srishiva]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

I have a feeling that results could have been very different had that railing was not protruding, someone has designed that railing as if someone is going to use it to walk over that bridge.

Absolutely not a correct design.

I dont think the protruding rod was the reason for the fatality (although its appalling why they would leave something like that out, a simple two wheeler meeting it would be fatal). Its not that long.
The speed is what made the car collapse beyond the crumple zone and into the compartment. Hitting a flat wall would have caused similar damage I think.

[amolathalye]

We all should always remember this picture and be safe.

[Gansan]

Whenever I see some of these cars and bikes on the road, I feel some armed people are roaming among unarmed civilians. I feel my life is also at risk, apart from that of those driving them.

We can say even a normal car can do 150, but they can't, not like these machines. Not in a couple of seconds. Probably there is absolutely no sensation of speed inside the car either. A deadly cocktail.

[paperweight]

As Fishtail's post showing an actual video of an earlier club jaunt shows, these people drive recklessly and carelessly and certainly not safely - though they have a drive safely slogan at the end. It seems fairly obvious that the car was travelling well in excess of 130 kmph, and then tried to "squeeze" through while the truck was moving to the right. They might have lived if the obstacle with the pipe was not sitting on the road at the right. Simply bad driving - on that road the speed has to be determined by the traffic. Again notice how ALL the truck drivers drive on the middle and passing lanes instead of the slow moving traffic lanes - that is a major hazard.

Problem is we Indians do not know what good driving is - where safety and consideration for others are more important than showing off and blasting the air with the power of our horns. Offensive, arrogant, weaving describes our driving. Defensive driving? It's looked on with contempt.

So in this case - the driver was at fault, the truck driver was probably at fault - wrong lane and the Highway authorities were at fault for putting obstacles on the road. My question is if you have enough money to spend on so called super cars - can't you spend some money to initiate legal proceedings against those who make our roads so unsafe to drive on?

[libranof1987]

Originally Posted by avishar

Meanwhile, Club GT spoke about the accident today on their Facebook page.

Oh, the tone.

What they've written and how they have shows utter disrespect not just for fellow road users but also to the chap who lost his life.

Perhaps emotion has gotten the better of their sensibilities. But these "don't preach to us", "we know what we're doing" guys need to realize their place. Money, power and success can't help them avoid the laws of physics.

Just 125. Great. No remorse whatsoever.

[ecenandu]

Originally Posted by avishar

Meanwhile, Club GT spoke about the accident today on their Facebook page.

Everyday hundreds of accidents happen in this country. Are they all sportscars? Or just sportscars only face accidents?
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Hundreds of accidents happen on trains everyday around the world, people fall off the windows, balconies does others stop living on the upper floors and should people start blaming why they lived at such heights?
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You can't change your destiny. Stop being frustrated and blaming others . Start appreciating the good work and try to get inspired by their success rather than trying to get popular on social media by giving your unwanted suggestions and comments.
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**Dedicated to few crackpots.

Well, where do I start.

I don't believe in destiny, I accept there are things that you can't control but 'destiny' is determined by your choices. While crossing a street we look both sides and make sure there are no oncoming traffic before crossing right?

So, going fast on road flaunting the speed limit, you invariably increase the odd of an accident happening to you. If an accident do happen, be man enough to accept who was at fault, rather than trivialising it by comparing to petty things.

[ankan.m.blr]

I cannot vouch for the authenticity of this video, still, think it is worth sharing. Someone has uploaded on youtube a clip of the Kolkata Club GT convoy on that fateful day. The video is titled : 'Ferrari california t flyby before accident | KOLKATA | INDIA |'. We can try to guess what speed these super cars are doing and see the convoy too in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJX1kKatUDU

[Rehaan]

Originally Posted by ankan.m.blr

I cannot vouch for the authenticity of this video, still, think it is worth sharing.
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We can try to guess what speed these super cars are doing and see the convoy too in this video.

Honestly, nothing about this video seems terribly wrong or excessive.

If you're standing by the side of the highway and cars are going by at highway speeds, it's going to look fast. More-so when there's supercar exhaust notes as they go by.

The earlier Black Mustang video on the other hand was pathetic road behaviour -- but we shouldn't be judging an entire group based on the actions of one member of the group.


Things go wrong on our roads every minute. Speed plays a huge part in that, no doubt.

From all the reports, it sounds like this happened at speeds that most of us would have traveled at even in our relatively more humble cars (though hopefully not on city streets).

It's a terribly unfortunate accident, and a lesson about the dangers of speed for everyone -- not just supercar owners.

Originally Posted by srishiva

I dont think the protruding rod was the reason for the fatality (although its appalling why they would leave something like that out, a simple two wheeler meeting it would be fatal).

I was pretty shocked by this flyover construction too - but if you look at other pictures closely, you'll notice that this construction does not intrude onto the road. It is actually on the sidewalk, onto which the car has climbed.

[kartavya]

125 km/hr is not a safe speed on Indian roads. We own a BMW and a Volvo and I have never hit those speeds in my car inside the city.

More than a number it is about relative speed. Most of the cars around these super cards would be much slower so you would be negotiating a lot of traffic and using the steering a lot more at these speeds.

Lastly 99% of the roads are not built for any speed in three digits. I have not traveled much but from what I have, not a lot of roads are like the Ahmedabad-Baroda expressway which is a "safe" road with good dividers and railings to have a three digit speed. Looking at the video, the highway/road is not at all safe for those speeds. Yes, the infrastructure in our country is poor in terms of safety and generally, but we all know that. Why can't we just drive at 60 km/hr, which is a reasonable speed.

[selfdrive]

Originally Posted by avishar

Meanwhile, Club GT spoke about the accident today on their Facebook page.

Wow. Entitlement, anyone? These people do live in their own cocoon. Someone died. Someone of their own group. It would be better that they realise that and just shut up instead of bringing up such tripe to defend their rash driving. If they say so, when someone from their group died, what can we expect them to say if they ended up killing someone else in any such accident?
Nobody grudges (or cares) about how rich they are; other than their coterie. If they drove safely, people would admire the cars than bother about their misdemeanors.

Originally Posted by ankan.m.blr

I cannot vouch for the authenticity of this video, still, think it is worth sharing. Someone has uploaded on Youtube a clip of the Kolkata Club GT convoy on that fateful day. The video is titled : 'Ferrari california t flyby before accident | KOLKATA | INDIA |'.

Calling it a flyby would be a stretch of imagination. There are a couple of other 'normal' cars which are going faster and trying to (stupidly so) race with these cars. They may be a Swift and an i10, though one would have to watch that video again.

[Haroon]

Just like how cops sometimes randomly fine bikers in full safety gear saying - "You are racing" (also the case of superbikers on NH7 near Bangalore who were thrashed & bikes vandalized due to some other unrelated bike hitting & killing a kid and the mob said the superbikers were racing), similarly when supercars are involved in an accident anywhere, by default it is presumed the supercar was speeding. Now we cant pass judgement without knowing the whole story, but when I read the news, the below video I saw last year came flashing in my mind.

This is a well-known supercar owner in Bangalore. I am not sure if we can call it reckless driving, show-off driving or something else (couple of close calls also!) esp in Bangalore city where a 2-wheeler, an autorickshaw or a random pedestrian can suddenly pop up from nowhere and catch you by surprise, isnt this just a disaster waiting to happen. Then there is an army of paparazzis leaving everything else aside and risking life & limb to simply follow the man & his machine (there is another related video where the paparazzis crash into one another while shooting the car ). And lastly the dark grey Innova driver must be having the toughest job in Bangalore to keep pace with his Ferrari driving boss, carrying probably his bodyguards or support staff. Ofcourse, thanks to one such paparazzi, we get to see this video, but is all this really required? If a person can afford one of those beauties, surely he has every right to splurge on it and enjoy it, by taking it out on a highway & driving responsibly or taking it out on a race track and opening it up to his heart's content and also no harm in the occasional relaxed city cruise to show-off your car and let others admire it would be a more worthwhile, safe & enjoyable option I would reckon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pirtAilX13o

[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by Haroon

This is a well-known supercar owner in Bangalore. I am not sure if we can call it reckless driving, show-off driving or something else (couple of close calls also!) esp in Bangalore city where a 2-wheeler, an autorickshaw or a random pedestrian can suddenly pop up from nowhere and catch you by surprise, isnt this just a disaster waiting to happen...

though there is no logical argument against a man flaunting his wares and satisfying his inner mojo - doing quick bursts & powerslides on the city streets somehow shouts "vulgar". These supercars belong to the track, and car porches of posh hotels, not roaring and braking in a congested city

[gkveda]

Originally Posted by Haroon

This is a well-known supercar owner in Bangalore.

I could sense only one place, he drifted the car to the left through skidding. Otherwise, I did not see any major deviation. The reason being, the relative speed between the car under observation and others are not that different. So, I still assume it was a safe driving.

May be off topic. In almost Every scene, I saw the same Innova car behind the ferrari. And, the speed of Innova was almost the same as that of the limelight car. Any correlation ?

[Dippy]

Originally Posted by gkveda

I could sense only one place, he drifted the car to the left through skidding. Otherwise, I did not see any major deviation. The reason being, the relative speed between the car under observation and others are not that different. So, I still assume it was a safe driving.

May be off topic. In almost Every scene, I saw the same Innova car behind the ferrari. And, the speed of Innova was almost the same as that of the limelight car. Any correlation ?

The Innova is the escort, security etc.. vehicle of the Ferrari and other cars of the owner. Hes now shifted to Dubai though.

[n_aditya]

Originally Posted by Haroon

This is a well-known supercar owner in Bangalore. I am not sure if we can call it reckless driving, show-off driving or something else (couple of close calls also!) esp in Bangalore city where a 2-wheeler, an autorickshaw or a random pedestrian can suddenly pop up from nowhere and catch you by surprise, isnt this just a disaster waiting to happen.

IMO, it is reckless driving esp at 02:10 where he narrowly misses ramming the two wheeler which tries avoiding a parked auto. Even the innova seems to have narrowly missed hitting the scooter (at the start of the video).

Sadly, life is cheap in India and if someone gets killed or maimed, these rich spoiled guys will just throw some money and go on with their so called life. Enough instances that support my statement.

These guys should rather take it to the track where it is whole lot more fun (and safer) and will get them to improve their skill as well. But then, they don't get any attention from the general public chasing them on their two wheelers at the track. Cheap thrills