Help! Car submerged in flood

shuvc · 5th November 2007, 17:19

Murphy keeps fighting. The problem has been traced to a malfunctioning actuator which regulates the temperature. Pic below. This is SGP and costs 3.8K ! My service engineer is trying to get 50% covered under insurance. Spare has been ordered from Gurgaon. Hope to get it fitted day after.

As of now, AC is running direct, i.e. max cooling.

The levelling motors of the headlights seem to be affected. Not too bothered about this, since I've never used it. Also, since the reflectors have around 5-10% damage, I might as well go for new EII (non-levelling) lamps.

shuvc · 5th November 2007, 17:38

Now ICE was one area I was very apprehensive about. Having changed the setup 3 weeks before the flooding.

Connected the 75.4. Then carefully connected the front speakers one by one, keeping in mind the tips Ajay (@Bass&Trouble) had given me.

One of the Illusion Electra's actually worked after being soaked under water for almost 100 hours !!!! The other was producing sound, but with distortion. The distortion increased during the day.

Till now, the Sunday had been gloomy. What with the actuator gone and a new speaker damaged.

And then Ajay made my day by offering a speaker replacement

. I am so so grateful. Thank you brother.

planet_rocker · 5th November 2007, 17:57

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Originally Posted by shuvc

One of the Illusion Electra's actually worked after being soaked under water for almost 100 hours !!!!
And then Ajay made my day by offering a speaker replacement . I am so so grateful. Thank you brother.

I took the the pic of the RHS front door speaker and that is working

i should have taken the pic of the other one as well.

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Originally Posted by planet_rocker

toiingg · 5th November 2007, 19:36

Murphy seems to be taking full fledged revenge from you.
Keep fighting brother, almost there.

Akshay1234 · 5th November 2007, 19:40

nice to hear that your car is back in action and even nicer that youve ben offered a replacement for your speaker.

moralfibre · 12th November 2007, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuvc

One of the Illusion Electra's actually worked after being soaked under water for almost 100 hours !!!! The other was producing sound, but with distortion. The distortion increased during the day.

Quote:

And then Ajay made my day by offering a speaker replacement

. I am so so grateful. Thank you brother.

I am going to soak my speakers in a bucket of water for three weeks and then test. Seriously I am going to. This is insane. The speakers survived? By the way did I mention I'll be buying a pair of Illusion Audio Carbon three ways when I try this.

But on a serious note. The quality of the speakers must be outstanding to have stood those torture filled days (or was it water filled).

low_bass_makker · 23rd November 2007, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Lol, that sure is a lot of equipment for a poor ol' 800. I hope people don't start forcing the poor guy to change the car first! BUT, if you think that takes the cake, gimme some time and I'll post some pics of a guy who has a full Illusion Audio Carbon Series setup in a .....brace yourself.... a 1976 Premier Padmini!!! Complete with fiberglass speaker pods and soundproofing. The two pairs of speakers in the car are worth Rs. 51000/- and the sub is a whopping 15" operating infinite baffle behind the rear seats, costing Rs. 45000/-. The setup is driven off an older top-of-the-line Alpine HU feeding the signal to German Magnat amps and full Stinger cabling. The real dampener however was that his car drowned in the rains last year, and the only equipment that emerged completely unharmed from the dowpour was the Illusion gear since they are practically waterproof.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...tml#post252050

posted a few years back.

gigy · 25th November 2007, 18:45

Shuvc, need a help.
can you find out whats the brand of clutch installed my MAS? is it CEEKAY or VALEO? did you find any difference from what was it like before. i have put in valeo clutch and it looses traction after running in stop and go roads of ghats for half hour. i had replaced clutch for the same reason without realising that my previous clutch brand was also valeo. my spares dealer initially gave me a ceekay one with six springs in it. service manual says 4 springs. thats why i took valeo with 4 springs. it was after opening up engine i found my previous one was also a valeo. (thought i must have fried the clutch during occasional adrenal rush but problem surfaced in the next run at ghats. pressure plate is new. clutch bearing is a year old.)

moralfibre · 25th November 2007, 19:03

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...tml#post252050

posted a few years back.

Thank you Raghu ji. Its time for an upgrade on my car then

.

avishkar41 · 25th November 2007, 23:59

Oh this reminded me the floods in surat last year. My car was submersed for almost three days in water.(Water level was one feet above the top of car). The bitter part was that i was able to see the water level rising standing on the terace helplessly and then on second day morning i was not able to see the car. The water was not stagnant, the flow was quite considerable. After continouly being under water for next two days the water level started getting down and my car started showing up.(Poor baby). Finally it took two and half month to get her back on road...

shuvc · 27th November 2007, 11:42

@gigy, Not sure which brand they put in. But here's what the bill says.

Clutch cover - 22100M60G30 - Rs. 952.46
Clutch Disc - 22400M64G30 - Rs. 1580.71

My OEM clutch also had 4 springs. Snaps in this post http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post591971

My driving is primarily within the city. The difference I have noticed after the change is - it is easier to steadily inch in 1st/2nd. Earlier it used to start knocking.

@LBM - your powers of searching continue to impress !

shuvc · 27th November 2007, 11:55

I've driven the car more than 1000kms since taking delivery in early November. I had 2 complaints.
1. FE with AC seems to have dropped 1.5 - 2kmpl !!! I got 8 twice.
I'm now running my first full fill with XtraPremium without AC. Current FE seems to be good i.e. > 11. Will top up in a few days and know exactly. I'm hoping it's just a case of clogging and the fuel lines & injectors will clean up with usage.

2. Headlight levelling motors have gone kaput. Will switch to Euro II non-levelling lights soon. Rs. 3.7K , I'm told.

Otherwise the car was running beautifully. Till yesterday, Murphy struck again. I'm mentioning this here, since it is probably a long term fallout of the flood water.

When I took delivery, the passenger power window switch in the driver side window switch console, seemed jammed. It was working though. This was rectified by some oiling at the workshop. This was 3 weeks ago. Yesterday, the panel started smoking with the smell of burning plastic. Switched off the car. The passenger window switch had gone limp. MUL guys came down in 30 mins of my SOS. (Hats off to Rakesh, my service engineer and Mohan Motors). They disconnected the panel. Checked the wiring. Wiring is fine. The circuit of the switch inside the console had shorted.

Need to replace it now. Trying to get it under warranty, but chances are slim, since they say short circuits are not covered under warranty. The panel costs Rs. 3.8K.

Current status, windows all rolled up and cannot be operated. Central locking is working.

vigsom · 27th November 2007, 17:12

How much did you cough up eventually?

vigsom · 27th November 2007, 17:23

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Originally Posted by vigsom

How much did you cough up eventually?

I saw in one of your posts that you had to pay 16k..anything beyond that?

I am pleasantly surprised that the total bill was only 30k.

ALTOs affected here in the mega flood of 2006 saw bills of 80k.On the other hand some guys ran bills as low as 12k because they chose to tender their cars to different agencies(who only changed what was really required).

A "Black arrow" here consumed Rs.1.3L of which approx 80 grand was shouldered by the Insurance Co.

shuvc · 27th November 2007, 19:04

As of now the bill is around 35K. I have paid around 19.5ish. Insurance had paid the rest.

Now add to it the 8K approx for the headlights and the switch console. So total 43K. My outgo, 27.5K.

However, my 27.5 outgo consists of 9K of work which I had anyway planned for in October and others which I may have forgone for the moment, but still went ahead since I'm finicky.

# 3M anti-rust - 3K
# Full interior and exterior polish - 1.1K
# New cloth seat covers - 1.1K (did not even try to wash the old ones)
# New headlights - 3.7K. Old ones can be repaired to some extent if I wish to.

5th November 2007, 17:19	#181
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,911 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Murphy keeps fighting. The problem has been traced to a malfunctioning actuator which regulates the temperature. Pic below. This is SGP and costs 3.8K ! My service engineer is trying to get 50% covered under insurance. Spare has been ordered from Gurgaon. Hope to get it fitted day after. As of now, AC is running direct, i.e. max cooling. The levelling motors of the headlights seem to be affected. Not too bothered about this, since I've never used it. Also, since the reflectors have around 5-10% damage, I might as well go for new EII (non-levelling) lamps.
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5th November 2007, 17:38	#182
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,911 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Ice Now ICE was one area I was very apprehensive about. Having changed the setup 3 weeks before the flooding. Connected the 75.4. Then carefully connected the front speakers one by one, keeping in mind the tips Ajay (@Bass&Trouble) had given me. One of the Illusion Electra's actually worked after being soaked under water for almost 100 hours !!!! The other was producing sound, but with distortion. The distortion increased during the day. Till now, the Sunday had been gloomy. What with the actuator gone and a new speaker damaged. And then Ajay made my day by offering a speaker replacement . I am so so grateful. Thank you brother.
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5th November 2007, 19:36	#184
toiingg BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 643 Thanked: 308 Times	Murphy seems to be taking full fledged revenge from you. Keep fighting brother, almost there. Last edited by toiingg : 5th November 2007 at 19:52.
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5th November 2007, 19:40	#185
Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,914 Times	nice to hear that your car is back in action and even nicer that youve ben offered a replacement for your speaker.
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25th November 2007, 18:45	#188
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	Shuvc, need a help. can you find out whats the brand of clutch installed my MAS? is it CEEKAY or VALEO? did you find any difference from what was it like before. i have put in valeo clutch and it looses traction after running in stop and go roads of ghats for half hour. i had replaced clutch for the same reason without realising that my previous clutch brand was also valeo. my spares dealer initially gave me a ceekay one with six springs in it. service manual says 4 springs. thats why i took valeo with 4 springs. it was after opening up engine i found my previous one was also a valeo. (thought i must have fried the clutch during occasional adrenal rush but problem surfaced in the next run at ghats. pressure plate is new. clutch bearing is a year old.)
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25th November 2007, 23:59	#190
avishkar41 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: surat Posts: 16 Thanked: 0 Times	Oh this reminded me the floods in surat last year. My car was submersed for almost three days in water.(Water level was one feet above the top of car). The bitter part was that i was able to see the water level rising standing on the terace helplessly and then on second day morning i was not able to see the car. The water was not stagnant, the flow was quite considerable. After continouly being under water for next two days the water level started getting down and my car started showing up.(Poor baby). Finally it took two and half month to get her back on road...
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27th November 2007, 11:42	#191
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,911 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	@gigy, Not sure which brand they put in. But here's what the bill says. Clutch cover - 22100M60G30 - Rs. 952.46 Clutch Disc - 22400M64G30 - Rs. 1580.71 My OEM clutch also had 4 springs. Snaps in this post http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...tml#post591971 My driving is primarily within the city. The difference I have noticed after the change is - it is easier to steadily inch in 1st/2nd. Earlier it used to start knocking. @LBM - your powers of searching continue to impress !
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27th November 2007, 11:55	#192
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,911 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Murphy strikes again I've driven the car more than 1000kms since taking delivery in early November. I had 2 complaints. 1. FE with AC seems to have dropped 1.5 - 2kmpl !!! I got 8 twice. I'm now running my first full fill with XtraPremium without AC. Current FE seems to be good i.e. > 11. Will top up in a few days and know exactly. I'm hoping it's just a case of clogging and the fuel lines & injectors will clean up with usage. 2. Headlight levelling motors have gone kaput. Will switch to Euro II non-levelling lights soon. Rs. 3.7K , I'm told. Otherwise the car was running beautifully. Till yesterday, Murphy struck again. I'm mentioning this here, since it is probably a long term fallout of the flood water. When I took delivery, the passenger power window switch in the driver side window switch console, seemed jammed. It was working though. This was rectified by some oiling at the workshop. This was 3 weeks ago. Yesterday, the panel started smoking with the smell of burning plastic. Switched off the car. The passenger window switch had gone limp. MUL guys came down in 30 mins of my SOS. (Hats off to Rakesh, my service engineer and Mohan Motors). They disconnected the panel. Checked the wiring. Wiring is fine. The circuit of the switch inside the console had shorted. Need to replace it now. Trying to get it under warranty, but chances are slim, since they say short circuits are not covered under warranty. The panel costs Rs. 3.8K. Current status, windows all rolled up and cannot be operated. Central locking is working.
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27th November 2007, 17:12	#193
vigsom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NSEW Posts: 4,018 Thanked: 30,005 Times	"Barsaati" Baleno How much did you cough up eventually?
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27th November 2007, 19:04	#195
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,911 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	As of now the bill is around 35K. I have paid around 19.5ish. Insurance had paid the rest. Now add to it the 8K approx for the headlights and the switch console. So total 43K. My outgo, 27.5K. However, my 27.5 outgo consists of 9K of work which I had anyway planned for in October and others which I may have forgone for the moment, but still went ahead since I'm finicky. # 3M anti-rust - 3K # Full interior and exterior polish - 1.1K # New cloth seat covers - 1.1K (did not even try to wash the old ones) # New headlights - 3.7K. Old ones can be repaired to some extent if I wish to.
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