Carbon Cleaning / Decarbonisation of Engine

Kaizer Sozay · 1st May 2006, 11:33

Does one have to do an engine oil change after a Decarb? I have got Synthetic Shell ultra helix & the car has done only 5,000kms after the oil change.

revvhed · 6th May 2006, 07:16

hi guys
just repeating Elf's question .. since i did'nt see any replies .. does anyone know where i can get my engine Carboncleaned in bombay .. much appreciate the help ..
and Autopsyche .. i know u've answered the question of high milege cars before .. but .. mine's a very very very high mileage car .. 90,000 kms on the clock (it's an Esteem) .. do u still think it's ok for me to go ahead with it ..
thanks in advance guys

elf · 7th May 2006, 14:17

OK. thanks to the overwhelming response & efforts of all you BHPians who replied (I'm being sarcastic, for all you thick ones)!

(Certain sections may be slightly off topic, but figured it would make sense to post under one place. Also in the spirit of helping out fellow BHPians).

Heeeere's Johnny! Please read through carefully...
__________________________________________________ __

Carbon Clean.
Nayan Auto
near Santacruz Police Station,
Santacruz (W).

Driving Instructions (since I don't have the postal address):
1. Get to Juhu Garden (airplane park / Air-India park) from Linking Road (driving from Bandra towards Juhu: Santacruz Police Station should be on your right side, the aforementioned Juhu Garden would be on your left).
2. Take a right at the signal.
3. Drive towards SV Road & look out to your right side (it'll be on the side of the Santacruz Police Station & not the Talwarkars side) for about 20-30 seconds (at normal 30-40kph, not the T-BHP standard of 120-130kph).
4. You may pass a coupla crossroads on the way. If you've hit the SV Road signal, you've gone too far, so:
a. Take an illegal U-turn;
b. pay the cop;
c. follow traffic signs;
5. Now look towards your left.
(refer to map).

There's also one center in Bandra, which I found on the net:
S.K.E.D.S.
Maker Mahal, 249 Turner Road, Mumbai - 400 050
Tel: (+91 22) 2640 3686
(don't refer to map - it's not there).
__________________________________________________ __

Injector Cleaning & Engine Diagnostics.
These guys are quite good - most of you may know them.
PAE Auto Electricals
3, New Hari Niwas,
Linking Road Extn;
near Santacruz Police Station,
Santacruz (W).
Tel: (+91 22) 2661 4798 / 2661 5501

Driving Instructions:
1. Get to Juhu Garden (airplane park / Air-India park) from Linking Road (driving from Bandra towards Juhu: Santacruz Police Station should be on your right side, the aforementioned Juhu Garden would be on your left).
2. Go straight from the signal.
3. Get to the first T-Junction.
4. It's on your right at the T.
(refer to map).

__________________________________________________ __

Wheel Alighnment & Balancing.
These guys damn good - they do it by hand though, so no cranky replies please...
Sawant Tyre Service.
Dattatray Road,
Linking Road Extn;
opp. Hindu Crematorium,
near Santacruz Police Station,
Santacruz (W).
Tel: (+91 22) 2615 1342

Driving Instructions:
1. Get to Juhu Garden (airplane park / Air-India park) from Linking Road (driving from Bandra towards Juhu: Santacruz Police Station should be on your right side, the aforementioned Juhu Garden would be on your left).
2. Go straight from the signal.
3. Get to the first T-Junction.
4. It's take the first left - 2nd/3rd shop on your left.
5. If you reach the crematorium, don't ask for balancing & alignment - it may be a sensitive issue.
(refer to map).

.
.
.
.
DON'T SAY I SENT YOU!!!

The Carbon Clean guys don't know me at all, although I'd got it done from Nayan about 10 years ago.

Pae Auto & Sawant Tyre Service may know me by face - although showing them my snap may have your windscreen & mirrors shattered. Show them my car & they'll send hot women home with you.
__________________________________________________ _

@ Revvhed: Lucy, we'll go together whenever I'm free - I know you always are. Revvhead can also come along if he likes, although I don't know if these guys will do rickshaws!

raghuram.cg · 27th June 2006, 12:05

Gang,
I recently saw this machine at Mandovi service centre at bangalore ,hooked onto a Wagon R- there was a brochure too which I read .Apparently, this cleans the entire fuel system of the vehicle?
I had a few typical questions

1)How does this work - the brochure talks about a proprietery fluid circulating ..
2)Has any got this treatement done?
3)Is it recommended - I have heard that its good to clean the injectors once a while ..
4)How much does it cost - if its a good thing - I would like to do it for my 2002 Zen (30K kms)
5)Is it only for MPFI cars?

Thanks in Advance
Raghu

raghuram.cg · 27th June 2006, 17:12

Thanks for directing me to another thread.Useful and relevant information is there.
Thanks

Note from Mod - Thanks for the link Shushrutha, Threads have been merged.

raghuram.cg · 28th June 2006, 14:25

Guys,
I read the thread couple of times - but could not find the information : So posting this question..Please dont mind!

Does the engine Oil have to be changed after the Carbon Clean system is used?

My 98 Zen VX has run 95K kms, - is it a good idea to get the Carbon Clean on this vehicle too?

Thanks!
Raghu

whatcanthisbe · 28th June 2006, 16:27

if you dont wanna get such an expensive treatment done ( i have never heard of it before , but then again I am a novice) first try cleaning yr throttle body, a good spray and a n old tooth brush will do the job

malvechaitanya · 18th February 2007, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaizer Sozay

Does one have to do an engine oil change after a Decarb? I have got Synthetic Shell ultra helix & the car has done only 5,000kms after the oil change.

Hey man...
Jus want little tips reguarding Synthetic Shell Helix Ultra...Im Using The same oil In my GPsy and in my frens alto too...When Should i go for a oil Change...5k ,10k,15k or 20k kms...sumone suggested me "one need not change the oil for 20k kms...Is it true so...Wats your opinion...

wolfinstein · 19th February 2007, 12:33

I wanted to know, That since CNG leaves less carbon in the Engine, Would we still follow the 20 K mark or can it be variable, I was thinking that at the next 10 K oil change ( That will be 20 K for my XETA) get the engine flushed with STP and Throttle cleaned.

I have done the first oil change with Castrol Magnatec.

mithun · 22nd February 2007, 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfinstein

I wanted to know, That since CNG leaves less carbon in the Engine, Would we still follow the 20 K mark or can it be variable, I was thinking that at the next 10 K oil change ( That will be 20 K for my XETA) get the engine flushed with STP and Throttle cleaned.

I have done the first oil change with Castrol Magnatec.

In the case of CNG, the decarbonizing can be extended a bit by about 5000 kms and max of 10,000 KMS.

swathyd · 28th March 2007, 12:23

I am having a diesel amby( matador 301-f) which has done 3,50000 without any engine overhauling . but recently even after oil change i notice buildup of carbon deposits in oil. after reading about ows i want to use it, so somebody tell me about using it.

should i pour it after draining the entire oil present in chamber, or should add with present oil. pls explain

and another querry is about the oil used, castrol crb plus is what is used now is it a synthetic one or mineral. should i switch to some other oil better in performance.

ajayclicks · 28th March 2007, 17:55

I gave my petrol swift for the post 20K Kms servicing yestd. The dealer has done a engine flush ( he says its recommended after20K kms) and charged me 650 bucks for that.

Cheers
Ajay

swathyd · 29th March 2007, 03:10

Which is the best lubricant available for a diesel vehicle.

ankitahuja · 29th April 2007, 17:09

Guys, need a bit clarity here.

Is Decarbonisation the same as Engine flashing? If not, then what is the difference?

My OHC (clocked 91,000 Kms) is in for a service next week, have never got Carbon cleaning done before so I plan to get this done. Do I have to keep anything in mind while this is done?

Lastly, are STP/OWS/ABRO Motor Flush the only options?

anandpadhye · 29th April 2007, 20:06

I did 40K service for my NHC (Aug 2004 model).
The Deccan Honda people charged me 1800 for Fuel Injector cleaning.

Any idea if this is what's being referred to here as carbon cleaning?

Surprisingly, it's not mentioned in the NHC manual anywhere...

At 40K they change the spark plugs.
I hope they do the injector cleaning BEFORE replacing the spark plugs.

Any idea/experience about NHC carbon claning, please share.

1st May 2006, 11:33	#46
Kaizer Sozay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 333 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Does one have to do an engine oil change after a Decarb? I have got Synthetic Shell ultra helix & the car has done only 5,000kms after the oil change.
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6th May 2006, 07:16	#47
revvhed BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 184 Thanked: 30 Times	Carbonclean in Bombay hi guys just repeating Elf's question .. since i did'nt see any replies .. does anyone know where i can get my engine Carboncleaned in bombay .. much appreciate the help .. and Autopsyche .. i know u've answered the question of high milege cars before .. but .. mine's a very very very high mileage car .. 90,000 kms on the clock (it's an Esteem) .. do u still think it's ok for me to go ahead with it .. thanks in advance guys
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7th May 2006, 14:17	#48
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,035 Thanked: 16 Times View My Garage	Hadda bit of free time on a Sunday, so... OK. thanks to the overwhelming response & efforts of all you BHPians who replied (I'm being sarcastic, for all you thick ones)! (Certain sections may be slightly off topic, but figured it would make sense to post under one place. Also in the spirit of helping out fellow BHPians). Heeeere's Johnny! Please read through carefully... __________________________________________________ __ Carbon Clean. Nayan Auto near Santacruz Police Station, Santacruz (W). *Driving Instructions* (since I don't have the postal address): 1. Get to Juhu Garden (airplane park / Air-India park) from Linking Road (driving from Bandra towards Juhu: Santacruz Police Station should be on your right side, the aforementioned Juhu Garden would be on your left). 2. Take a right at the signal. 3. Drive towards SV Road & look out to your right side (it'll be on the side of the Santacruz Police Station & not the Talwarkars side) for about 20-30 seconds (at normal 30-40kph, not the T-BHP standard of 120-130kph). 4. You may pass a coupla crossroads on the way. If you've hit the SV Road signal, you've gone too far, so: a. Take an illegal U-turn; b. pay the cop; c. follow traffic signs; 5. Now look towards your left. (refer to map). There's also one center in Bandra, which I found on the net: S.K.E.D.S. Maker Mahal, 249 Turner Road, Mumbai - 400 050 Tel: (+91 22) 2640 3686 (don't refer to map - it's not there). __________________________________________________ __ Injector Cleaning & Engine Diagnostics. These guys are quite good - most of you may know them. PAE Auto Electricals 3, New Hari Niwas, Linking Road Extn; near Santacruz Police Station, Santacruz (W). Tel: (+91 22) 2661 4798 / 2661 5501 *Driving Instructions:* 1. Get to Juhu Garden (airplane park / Air-India park) from Linking Road (driving from Bandra towards Juhu: Santacruz Police Station should be on your right side, the aforementioned Juhu Garden would be on your left). 2. Go straight from the signal. 3. Get to the first T-Junction. 4. It's on your right at the T. (refer to map). __________________________________________________ __ Wheel Alighnment & Balancing. These guys damn good - they do it by hand though, so no cranky replies please... Sawant Tyre Service. Dattatray Road, Linking Road Extn; opp. Hindu Crematorium, near Santacruz Police Station, Santacruz (W). Tel: (+91 22) 2615 1342 *Driving Instructions:* 1. Get to Juhu Garden (airplane park / Air-India park) from Linking Road (driving from Bandra towards Juhu: Santacruz Police Station should be on your right side, the aforementioned Juhu Garden would be on your left). 2. Go straight from the signal. 3. Get to the first T-Junction. 4. It's take the first left - 2nd/3rd shop on your left. 5. If you reach the crematorium, don't ask for balancing & alignment - it may be a sensitive issue. (refer to map). . . . . DON'T SAY I SENT YOU!!! The Carbon Clean guys don't know me at all, although I'd got it done from Nayan about 10 years ago. Pae Auto & Sawant Tyre Service may know me by face - although showing them my snap may have your windscreen & mirrors shattered. Show them my car & they'll send hot women home with you. __________________________________________________ _ @ Revvhed: Lucy, we'll go together whenever I'm free - I know you always are. Revvhead can also come along if he likes, although I don't know if these guys will do rickshaws!
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27th June 2006, 12:05	#49
raghuram.cg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 197 Thanked: 112 Times View My Garage	Carbon Clean system for Maruti ? Gang, I recently saw this machine at Mandovi service centre at bangalore ,hooked onto a Wagon R- there was a brochure too which I read .Apparently, this cleans the entire fuel system of the vehicle? I had a few typical questions 1)How does this work - the brochure talks about a proprietery fluid circulating .. 2)Has any got this treatement done? 3)Is it recommended - I have heard that its good to clean the injectors once a while .. 4)How much does it cost - if its a good thing - I would like to do it for my 2002 Zen (30K kms) 5)Is it only for MPFI cars? Thanks in Advance Raghu
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27th June 2006, 17:12	#50
raghuram.cg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 197 Thanked: 112 Times View My Garage	Carbon Clean Thanks for directing me to another thread.Useful and relevant information is there. Thanks Note from Mod - Thanks for the link Shushrutha, Threads have been merged. Last edited by Rehaan : 27th June 2006 at 18:03.
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28th June 2006, 14:25	#51
raghuram.cg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 197 Thanked: 112 Times View My Garage	Engine Oil to be changed after Carbon Clean is used? Guys, I read the thread couple of times - but could not find the information : So posting this question..Please dont mind! Does the engine Oil have to be changed after the Carbon Clean system is used? My 98 Zen VX has run 95K kms, - is it a good idea to get the Carbon Clean on this vehicle too? Thanks! Raghu
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28th June 2006, 16:27	#52
whatcanthisbe BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: http://www.wandering-online.com Posts: 499 Thanked: 6 Times	if you dont wanna get such an expensive treatment done ( i have never heard of it before , but then again I am a novice) first try cleaning yr throttle body, a good spray and a n old tooth brush will do the job
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19th February 2007, 12:33	#54
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	I wanted to know, That since CNG leaves less carbon in the Engine, Would we still follow the 20 K mark or can it be variable, I was thinking that at the next 10 K oil change ( That will be 20 K for my XETA) get the engine flushed with STP and Throttle cleaned. I have done the first oil change with Castrol Magnatec.
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28th March 2007, 12:23	#56
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 26 Times	want to know about oil change in my diesel amby I am having a diesel amby( matador 301-f) which has done 3,50000 without any engine overhauling . but recently even after oil change i notice buildup of carbon deposits in oil. after reading about ows i want to use it, so somebody tell me about using it. should i pour it after draining the entire oil present in chamber, or should add with present oil. pls explain and another querry is about the oil used, castrol crb plus is what is used now is it a synthetic one or mineral. should i switch to some other oil better in performance.
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28th March 2007, 17:55	#57
ajayclicks BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 609 Thanked: 424 Times	I gave my petrol swift for the post 20K Kms servicing yestd. The dealer has done a engine flush ( he says its recommended after20K kms) and charged me 650 bucks for that. Cheers Ajay
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29th March 2007, 03:10	#58
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 26 Times	Which is the best lubricant available for a diesel vehicle.
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29th April 2007, 17:09	#59
ankitahuja BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 929 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	Guys, need a bit clarity here. Is Decarbonisation the same as Engine flashing? If not, then what is the difference? My OHC (clocked 91,000 Kms) is in for a service next week, have never got Carbon cleaning done before so I plan to get this done. Do I have to keep anything in mind while this is done? Lastly, are STP/OWS/ABRO Motor Flush the only options?
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29th April 2007, 20:06	#60
anandpadhye Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 3,346 Times	I did 40K service for my NHC (Aug 2004 model). The Deccan Honda people charged me 1800 for Fuel Injector cleaning. Any idea if this is what's being referred to here as carbon cleaning? Surprisingly, it's not mentioned in the NHC manual anywhere... At 40K they change the spark plugs. I hope they do the injector cleaning BEFORE replacing the spark plugs. Any idea/experience about NHC carbon claning, please share.
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