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Old 17th April 2013, 10:05   #346
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Frank how much did you pay for the mounts?

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Not yet replaced the mounts. Waiting for a couple of months before she goes in for service.
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Not yet replaced the mounts. Waiting for a couple of months before she goes in for service.
Has the lower point of the mount started to touch the base ?

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Not yet, but I can already feel the vibrations and there is a pronounced increase in vibrations when the AC cuts in and out and the RPM drops slightly. Also I do feel a slight amount of vibration when my brake pedal is depressed and the car is in 'D' mode.

Anyway, friends, a little bit about the car's performance.
The new oil has really made a big difference, and the car is running smoother than ever. The engine is even more responsive now and revs very sweetly. There is an omnipresent feeling of 'less friction' and the engine feels unstrained even when picking up speeds. In all, the synthetic oil was a welcome change and I am very happy with it.
Drove from Home (Tardeo) to Nerul, Navi Mumbai, and then to Virar and back. Covered 198.5 km in the process. ON ONE TANK! I am not kidding!! I drove the first 120 km quite sedately but went ballistic in the last 70 odd km. Drove the car at an average speed of 70-80 kmph on a 54 km straight stretch (NH8) from Virar till the Bandra Worli Sea Link (with occasional bursts to 5000 RPM in 'S' mode) and then just ripped the car's nuts off (pun intended) after reaching the sea link. Even after all this, I had enough CNG to reach home and park. I generally idle for a minute after parking. That is when the final alarm went off, signalling that CNG was almost over.

THIS IS CHEAPER THAN WALKING!!!
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Old 21st April 2013, 21:34   #351
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Just finished 375 km with the car with full load and ac on all the time. Some city and some highway driving. The car behaved very well, save for the slight scraping on the higher speed breakers. We did 375 km for Rs 700. We went to pune and back for Rs. 140 a head! Phenomenal performance and very good savings.
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Frank how many kms to do you cover in a month on a average?
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Frank how many kms to do you cover in a month on a average?
I've been doing a steady 2000-2500 km since I've got the car.
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Finally replaced the Engine Hydraulic Mounts. The vibrations suddenly went up within two days and there was resonance at certain RPMs which would make everything vibrate and sound like a truck engine was mounted in the boot.
Sent my car to Wagenwerkz (@jatinpatel) and had the mounts replaced. Quick job. Did not put original Honda mounts. These are OEM fitments. If they last around 35-40k km more or two years (which is the amount of time planned with this car) then they are worth it.

The front struts feel like they are on their deathbed, but I am going to stick it out for a couple of months.

The car is doing exceptionally. Doing a steady 120-180 km per day sometimes and a day of rest for her means a minimum drive of 75-80 km.

My fuel efficiency has gone up due to the constant highway jaunts and I am getting somewhere around 15-18 km per kg which is phenomenal by any standard.

Cost of running: Anywhere between Rs. 1.6 - 2.5 per km.

Cost of kit: Rs. 58000
Km done after installation: 14000


Considering the fact that I fill 2000 rupees of Petrol every 3000 km, I must have fueled up 5 times, so Rs. 10000
PLUS the cost of CNG for 14000 km @ an average of 14 km/kg : 1000 kg (Rs. 33.90 * 1000= Rs. 33,900

So 14000 km cost me Rs. 43,900 rs.

On Petrol, the same would have cost me:
@ an average of 10 kmpl, I would have done 1400 litres, which would have amounted to Rs. 99400!

THAT's a straight saving of Rs. 55,500 in 8 months. WHICH MEANS that I will recover the cost of my CNG kit by the end of this week!!
Woohoooo!!
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THAT's a straight saving of Rs. 55,500 in 8 months. WHICH MEANS that I will recover the cost of my CNG kit by the end of this week!!
Owner's pride, Neighbour's envy.

Congrats on recovering the CNG kit cost within record time of 8 months. That is sincerely a achievement plus the future savings will run in lacs of rupees. Also I am sure in future you will give a grin look to petrol only cars every time to visit CNG fuel station.

Anyways, since weight of CNG cylinder is almost 50 to 60 kgs, do you feel any drag on rear suspensions?

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Thanks bro. No real drag on the suspension, but yes, as you add weight to the rear, the suspension starts sagging. Sometimes the cumulative weight of the tank (with CNG) goes to even 80 kg. That's like adding one more person when the car is loaded with 1 or 2 people already. This results in handling taking a bigger hit than normal. Otherwise, with me driving alone, no difference.
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Is the mount hydraulic or rubber based.How much did you pay for it frank.I am too thinking of going in for a non original mount but not sure as i plan to retain the car for a long time ie atleast 5 years.My annual running would be just 4-5K kms.
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Is the mount hydraulic or rubber based.How much did you pay for it frank.I am too thinking of going in for a non original mount but not sure as i plan to retain the car for a long time ie atleast 5 years.My annual running would be just 4-5K kms.
Might as well just change the mounts. They might give up in less than 2 years and then you won't be able to sell your car without changing them and spending money. Enjoy the benefits of new mounts as soon as you can.
I spend 4.5k on them
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Old 15th May 2013, 16:15   #359
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Is this engine mount changing thing a CIVIC alone phenomenon ? I am asking because I haven't changed engine mounts for any of my cars. The present one is almost 15 years.
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Is this engine mount changing thing a CIVIC alone phenomenon ? I am asking because I haven't changed engine mounts for any of my cars. The present one is almost 15 years.
Yes this is a Civic specific problem more so with pre face-lifted version i believe.Most engine mounts go bust around 30-40K Kms mark in the older version Civic.
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