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Originally Posted by gopalnt 500 kms a month |
Petrol AT makes a lot of sense here. Just for the EMI difference (In case you go for a loan) between the petrol AT and diesel AT, you will be able to fill and run it too.
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What would be the mileage difference between petrol AT and diesel AT, where the route I travel requires me to drive at around 50kmph for about 100 kilometers with stop and go traffic, 80kmph for another 100 kilometers with multiple slow-downs and 100+kmph all clear traffic for the rest?
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I kept a petrol AT for a few months, and then sold it to a close friend (Now I have a 2.8 D-4D), who is still holding it. And we reached a rather simple conslusion after driving a lot:
Petrol AT FE is roughly around this:
City - 6-7 kpl, at times 5 too, depending on traffic
Highway - - 12-13 kpl under 100 kph
- 11-12 kpl till 100-120
Overall, for a 33-67 city-highway run, you can expect around 10 kpl overall, and yes, although it's a 2.7l engine, it is still quite efficient for what it pulls.
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And yes, the dealer is literally pleading with me not to take petrol car.
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Nothing as such in Delhi NCR. We drove the 2.7 petrol and 2.8 diesel together to Mcloedganj and back, none of the two could cover the entire distance in one full tank. It's just that, the FE of the 2.7 is quite pathetic while going uphill, but so is for 2.8. It's the downhill sections which still help you reach some decent figures.
Still, the 2.8 ran at around 6 to 6.5 rupees per km, while the 2.7 ran at around 9 rupees per km. With the 2.8, you can manage decent FE of 12-13 kpl at even the speeds you can't mention here. the 2.7 fells to 8-9 kpl on those speeds.
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Originally Posted by silverknight refinement of a petrol car which is unmatched. |
No doubt, the 2.7 is silent as a grave even at 120 kph in 6th cog, that's the smoothness of operation you enjoy in the car. The 2.8 was a more potent motor which used to run at lower revs and hence used to offer fantastic cruising ability, the 2.4 is not there any more. So, if the cruising comfort and silence/smoothness of operation is in the mind, the 2.7 is absolutely creamy.
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Originally Posted by Turbanator Real world difference in mileage of Petrol and Diesel will vary greatly on how you drive. Higher speeds and more crowded traffic will surely hit Petrol more, expect around 7-8 kmpl in your case. On diesel, it should be 12 plus on the 2.4. |
Absolutely correct, word to word. Especially, the higher the speed gets, the bigger the delta gets between the FE that is offered by the diesel and petrol.
Even I also have a question here. Never driven or traveled in the 2.4 AT. But I have heard that the high speed FE of 2.8 is better than the 2.4 too. Is it true? Just for reference, I frequently drive my 2.8 at 2000-2200 rpm range in sixth cog (can't mention the speed) on expressways, and the FE of 2.8 is astonishing then too, easily 13 kpl. While the 2.7, at same speeds, is at 8-9 kpl only.
That said, these bigger engines offer his distinct charm of lesser FE loss at higher speeds. A 2.7 Crysta offers equal or better FE than an Ecosport 1.5 or Creta 1.6 petrol at speeds north of 120, just because the Ford and Hyundai engines start running rich, while the 2.7 still doesn't seem to feel any stress.
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Originally Posted by vraned Reason for choosing Petrol AT over Diesel AT: My driving mileage of 350-400 month, quieter cabin/low noise levels, and the ~2L price difference can easily fuel the car for the first few years. |
With a running of 5000 kms per year:
Diesel AT @ 6 rupees per km: 30,000 bucks
Petrol AT @ 9 rupees per km: 45,000 bucks
With a difference of 15,000 bucks per year, you have good 13 years to go for even the break even to come.
This is when you don't take other factors into consideration. Also, you never know if the diesel will be even allowed to survive past the 10th year of ownership.
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Originally Posted by Abhishek_Garg I am also looking at Petrol Innova Auto but came across XL6 petrol automatic. It does 80-90% of the job at about half the price. |
XL6 is a simple, robust, reliable and honest people mover. If you are self driven, have only 3-4 members to carry, and want the comfort of captain seats along with a decent comfort. XL6 makes a lot of sense, in fact I would recommend it over Innova Crysta if the usage is really less. What is the price of a new XL6, a Crysta petrol will depreciate more than that in 5 years. I have driven the XL6 Automatic all the way from Dehradun to Nainital. Other than slightly laggy nature of the 4 speed box, everything else is simply perfect.
And the gearbox is ought to be laggy man, it has a big difference between all 4 gears, hence it will hold more, that's the basic common sense. If Crysta is a reliable and comfortable car, so is XL6, no two ways about it. Safety aspect is only where the XL6 takes the beating. Else buy one, put 195 section nice tyres, and XL6 is good to go.
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Originally Posted by Abhishek_Garg Does anyone know why Toyota has branded Innova with one more seat that it actually has? |
That's the reason, the 8 seat version needs you visit the RTO time and again for the fitness certifications to be done, even in private ownership.
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Innova is definitely safer in terms of crash etc and looks to be built to last 15years.
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Can't comment much on the safety of Maruti. Ertiga was rated 4 stars, but you never know if the specs are same or not.
Coming to 15 years part, even Ertiga / XL6 will also easily last 15 years quite well. I have seen multiple Ertigas running on the roads with Innova type mileage. And we have the BHPian Paragsachania, his Ertiga is holding very well even well past 2,00,000 kms. You can expect it to last well IMO.
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Question: should we put 6Lakhs more on Innova compared to XL6 ? Please suggest.
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Completely your call. If you want more VFM option, the XL6 is any day the one to pick. If you want to focus more on safety, look towards Crysta, and yes, for the long distance touring, the Crysta will offer slightly more comfort too, though the people with motion sickness etc will be happier in XL6.
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Originally Posted by swarnava.ch A quick question to the existing owners, can a Petrol 2.7 Crysta pull a full load of 7 + luggage on say a ghat road or a mountain slope as easily as Diesel ? |
Drive the 2.7, you will never talk about the 'addiction' you had with the pull of Hexa. The responsiveness at any RPM range, the ease with which the 2.7 moves uphill, and the way it maintains the momentum at any kind of slope, will keep you happy.
That said, I drove one to Mcloedganj, there is this dreaded path called 'Khada Danda', which is a steep incline for a few kms, even a few local drivers also avoid it at times, and I, always take that route only for some clutch burning too. I have taken that route, and a few more such dreaded routes in the Crysta 2.7, it's a proper big bore petrol, it doesn't even consider that a proper load.