Swift Diesel Initial views/Test drive

abhibh · 24th March 2007, 20:43

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Originally Posted by badri

1)We had a new arrival in the family and needed a diesel car with big boot in 5.5 L. Indigo is not an option

I think you mean 6.5L

Also i agree that swift has to be reved hard to get the torque. When i test drove it 1st time it never felt like 190NM. Even fiesta throttle was better than swift.

Though a question to all the Accent CRDi's owners what fuel do you use ? Normal or Additives one ?

badri · 24th March 2007, 21:01

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Originally Posted by abhibh

I think you mean 6.5L

Also i agree that swift has to be reved hard to get the torque. When i test drove it 1st time it never felt like 190NM. Even fiesta throttle was better than swift.

Though a question to all the Accent CRDi's owners what fuel do you use ? Normal or Additives one ?

It was in fact 5.5L that I had budgeted and I felt that going for a good used accent is better than a new indigo. Even though refinement is ok in indigo, the gear box is horrible. The worst I have ever come across. Hence I decided to go for a used accent. Could lay my hands on a Silver Viva CRDI with 20K on odo( after 2 yrs can you beleive it), full service history, fancy number, MP3 Player, Remote locking, OEM seat covers and 3M tint glasses for 5.6L. I guess it was a good deal in Nov 06 when on road price was 7.9L. Only that in Dec, Hyundai dropped prices by 70K

I used to use turbojet but now shifted to regular fuel. Can't find much difference.

Tech · 24th March 2007, 21:20

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Originally Posted by abhibh

i hate swift looks from rear... The best looking hatch is PALIO. Nothing comes close as for now. Even Getz is good looking they just need to work on the front end a bit..

Though Swift D is very silent with AC. Just experienced it today.

For Swift Diesel check out my post here -
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...tml#post397850

For it's back side looks.... Check it out again. It rocks !

Even the ozone blue one looks great

nikunj_cal · 26th March 2007, 12:40

Hi tech , How much will the rear tail lights as shown in the image cost ? Any idea ?? The tail lights have uplifted the entire backside looks of the Swift !!

abhibh · 26th March 2007, 12:55

Tail lights like those costs around 12.5 - 15K..

And tech no offence dude but as navdeep said depends upon individual to individual.

There are like 100's of people who i know that don't like the shape of SWIFT at all. I just don't like the REAR coz from front its sleek and gets fat from back and those pics are way too good

specially the white one others are still ok.

mobike008 · 26th March 2007, 12:59

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Originally Posted by abhibh

Though a question to all the Accent CRDi's owners what fuel do you use ? Normal or Additives one ?

Always use normal diesel for CRDI engines and not the premium ones. Just ensure that you tank-up from a reputed bunk.

abhibh · 26th March 2007, 13:08

But all dealers (including Fiesta/Accent/Skoda/Maruti) says that one should Premium Petrol/Diesel for EURO III / BHARAT III cars...

extreme_torque · 26th March 2007, 13:37

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Originally Posted by abhibh

Also i agree that swift has to be reved hard to get the torque.

Revved hard to get torque! Am I missing something.

DCEite · 26th March 2007, 13:43

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque

Revved hard to get torque! Am I missing something.

I think he is getting confused with Turbo lag.

abhibh · 26th March 2007, 13:43

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque

Revved hard to get torque! Am I missing something.

I mean reved hard to enjoy the grunt which 190NM Accent have at around 2K RPM

. If you will read my Test drive review i clearly stated that it maybe due to the cold engine but alot of BHPians have discussed that it needs a bit pushign to enjoy the torque..

headers · 26th March 2007, 13:53

well..you do not rev to experience torque..a gentle touch of the accelarator will take you forward..that is TORQUE..the pulling power without strain on the engine..

mobike008 · 26th March 2007, 14:03

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Originally Posted by abhibh

But all dealers (including Fiesta/Accent/Skoda/Maruti) says that one should Premium Petrol/Diesel for EURO III / BHARAT III cars...

There is a long thread here ( please do a search) and you will know that using regular diesel is the best thing to do. In summary on those threads, premium diesel does not enhance your car's performance in any way. So better to stick to regular.

Btw, my hyundai dealer clearly told me to use regular diesel and not premium.

extreme_torque · 26th March 2007, 14:51

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Originally Posted by abhibh

I mean reved hard to enjoy the grunt which 190NM Accent have at around 2K RPM

. If you will read my Test drive review i clearly stated that it maybe due to the cold engine but alot of BHPians have discussed that it needs a bit pushign to enjoy the torque..

Swift pulls very well after 1800 rpm... much better than the Accent.

nikunj_cal · 26th March 2007, 15:45

One thing I have noticed in my diesel Indica is that when i start in the morning , the car seems like a old hag , the pick up sucks . But once I have driven it arond for 12-15 kms it responds better and suddenly the engine seems more alive. Is the same common for all diesel engines ?? I have a 2004 Indica ?? Also will the same problem be faced in Swift D ??

vishnugs · 27th March 2007, 15:42

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Originally Posted by nikunj_cal

One thing I have noticed in my diesel Indica is that when i start in the morning , the car seems like a old hag , the pick up sucks . But once I have driven it arond for 12-15 kms it responds better and suddenly the engine seems more alive. Is the same common for all diesel engines ?? I have a 2004 Indica ?? Also will the same problem be faced in Swift D ??

Absolutely not, you wont find any difference in the sound / performance while cold starting. There is no glowplug (heater) or anything, so its just like a petrol car, just start and go.

Also you wont find any characteristics you noticed in Indica in DDSi, the engine is several generations ahead

Indirect Injection => Direct Injection => CRDi => Multijet CRDi

Again in CRDi itself there are several generations, to my knowledge the order of technology (based on the pump/injection technology) is

Accent CRDi (Older)
Toyota D4D
Verna CRDi
Ford TDCi (Latest Generation)

26th March 2007, 12:40	#184
nikunj_cal BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 450 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Hi tech , How much will the rear tail lights as shown in the image cost ? Any idea ?? The tail lights have uplifted the entire backside looks of the Swift !!
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26th March 2007, 12:55	#185
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Tail lights like those costs around 12.5 - 15K.. And tech no offence dude but as navdeep said depends upon individual to individual. There are like 100's of people who i know that don't like the shape of SWIFT at all. I just don't like the REAR coz from front its sleek and gets fat from back and those pics are way too good specially the white one others are still ok.
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26th March 2007, 13:08	#187
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	But all dealers (including Fiesta/Accent/Skoda/Maruti) says that one should Premium Petrol/Diesel for EURO III / BHARAT III cars...
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26th March 2007, 13:53	#191
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	well..you do not rev to experience torque..a gentle touch of the accelarator will take you forward..that is TORQUE..the pulling power without strain on the engine..
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26th March 2007, 15:45	#194
nikunj_cal BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 450 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	One thing I have noticed in my diesel Indica is that when i start in the morning , the car seems like a old hag , the pick up sucks . But once I have driven it arond for 12-15 kms it responds better and suddenly the engine seems more alive. Is the same common for all diesel engines ?? I have a 2004 Indica ?? Also will the same problem be faced in Swift D ??
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