My view on Verna CRDi+ABS coming soon. EDIT : Advait Hyundai backs out of commitment

sajands · 15th April 2008, 18:39

Hi All,

Well, Its been a long, long due to provide my report, I' ve been on most of the threads on the verna but not providing my views on the same. So, here goes my small review on the Verna CRDi+ABS version

It all started on 12th Feb 2008, when i sold my Santro to my best friend [car pic posted in my garage gallery] and all of a sudden, my garage looked totally empty with just a bike and dio....something was missing.

Then the big debate started, now what!!!!, Which car do we go for and most important what's our budget and can we be able to afford its maintenance and insurance. first, checked the budget...most important factor, could strecth upto 9 lakhs and not beyond that and since we had hatchbacks, it was time to look at the sedan segment and everyone at home was inclined towards a sedan, First car was a M800 then Santro so, mood was upbeat for a sedan.

So, narrowed down a list of cars under 9 lakhs...there was the Hyundai Verna, Ford Feista and Logan, Optra 1.6 (Dezire was yet to be launched). Oooopppsss!!1 forgot to mention, fuel option was diesle and not petrol as usage per month is close to 1200KMS.

Called up all dealers in Bangalore in order to book a test drive. Ford came with a very dusty and old Fiesta, handling and condition of the car was very bad. took it for a spin and I felt like the car would disintegrate very soon, went over a small hump and front hit the bump so hard, the entrie chasis shook, salseman said, i needed to go very slow. i checked the speedo and i was crawling and the gear was in netural. how much slow i was suppose to go still???? Anyway's came back and engaged the salesman into a conservation on pretex of buying the feista, and was not convienced for the fact that in order to have ABS, i needed to shell out 10 lakhs and odd on-road price bangalore. So, told him that i would get in touch with him soon.

Next to arrive was Hyundai with a Verna, all the way from Mysore as there was no test drive car available for some strange reason in bangalore. This was maroon Verna CRDi with ABS and good knows which customer's car as it was very well maintained and clean. I took it for a spin and did not floor it as it belonged to someone and hence did not feel like ripping it, Was totally gental with the car and after 5 mins of test drive fell in love with the car.

Please note it had been over a week since i called up the dealers and showed interest in purchasing the car, and only Ford and Hyundai had responded. GM and Mahindra....still sleeping, no response yet.

Back to the review, After the Verna test drive, sat down with the salesguy who had come down with the verna from Advaith Hyundai and i kept talking about the Verna Crdi+abs and for some strange reason, he was explaning the features of the SX model. I stopped him and said, that I was looking at the base model with ABS and not the SX, CRDi+ABS on-road is 8,99,00.00 and SX costs 9,37,345.00 on road bangalore. Then I asked him, how come there was not an option or standard feature of Airbags and his reply shocked me totally. He said, actually for indian roads ABS and Airbags are not requried and hence only ABS is provided as few customers are demanding for it and not many opt for the Airbags .

Next, I went into the features and noticed that the model that i was looking at had no adjustable rear head rest's and the SX model had. When I asked him how come for the price of 9 lakhs on-road, I dont get adjustable rear head rest's?? he had no answer and then asked me to go for the SX which had. So, bottom line, if you need adjustable rear head rest's in verna, go for the SX model and shell out extra 37,000 for that. For me, this is a total rip off by Hyundai and wanted me to shell out an extra 37k for adjustable rear head rest's. Day-Light robbery indeed.

Then I asked him about the Verna's famous Verna's handling effect and its beatiful skinny tries for which he again gave me a shocker, told me that till date all Verna customer's are happy and content with the car and no one has compalined on the same. It was then, I introduced him to Team-BHP.com and showed him the ownership and test drive review's, again gave me a bouncer by saying this could be a one off issue . I was like how can you say its an one off issue when so many of them agree on the same thing

I asked if he could provide me adjustable rear head rest's on the one that i would be booking and he said its not possible and even if he could, it would take exactly 6 months to get it done , yup. you heard it right 6 months to get the adjustable rear head rest's into the CRDi+ABS verion. Moved on to the tries, he said that he would be able to get me an upsize to 195/60 R14 in trade for the stock 175 and this after exchange would cost me 16,0000 in total for a set of 5. Only the tries and not with alloys. after sometime, I told him that i would keep in touch again.

For a month's time did not call him as we were advised not to invest money into anything as it was not the good time. so, on April 8th gave him a call and went down to the Showroom, Advaith Hyundai and meet him, had to see what he had to offer as a final price and what discounts.

I 'am booking the car in my dad's name and since he a doctor, he was entitled for a income tax benift as he woulfd be applying for a loan.

Since my Dad is a Doctor and has his IMA certificate, 10,000.00 discount[Hyundai has a tie up with IMA].
We had a santro eariler and if we give the copy of RC book, 10,0000 Loyalty Bonus.
Dealer discount 2,000.00
Free mats, perfume and idol
total Discount: 22,000.00

WE applied for a loan with AXIS bank for 5 lakhs for 3 years. EMI per month 16,301[10.75%] as my dad is a prority customer with AXIS Bank and making a down-payment of 4 lakhs. Just before I could close the deal, my dad got the April edition of What Car magazine, the same day i went to the super team-bhp meet and on page 25, it says upto 55,000 cash discount on the hyundai verna hot deal for this month. Showed this to the salesguy who gave me yet another bouncer by saying, he had no idea about this as Advaith Hyundai had not received any information from head office on the same and I had to clarify this with the car magazine on this information.

Later on i received a call from mr.Goutham from Hyundai and wanted to know more on Team-Bhp and my views on the verna, i guess the salesman would have updated him on team-bhp
so told him about the brilliant handling and super tries that hyundai provides and so called excellent features that the base model had and he wanted to know more and said will read about the ownership and test drive reviews posted on Team-BHP on verna.

I hope atleast now, hyundai will get things right. fingers crossed

The Color that i selected is the Real Earth.

I'am Planing to get the ICE Setup done by Satya[BlueRaven].

I need help on the tyre upsize as where do I go for the upsize, get it down with the dealer itself or head out and get it done. Please help me out and let me know if this is a good deal overall, waiting for you views on the same.

I did not want to start of talking about the car and its engine as lots has been said. Will post pics once i get my car.

It's been 2month's overall and i still did not receive any call from GM and Mahindra yet.

Thanks for showing patience towards my long review.

Regards,
Sajan

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djay99 · 15th April 2008, 19:26

Good choice sajan.

I would suggest you to buy the tires from outside. You can get same at lesser price.
205/60 - 14 would be a good choice. Tyre gurs please help him.

sajands · 15th April 2008, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by djay99

I would suggest you to buy the tires from outside. You can get same at lesser price.
205/60 - 14 would be a good choice. Tyre gurs please help him.

Hey,

Thanks djay, will do. i think yokahma sould be an good choice

Regards,
Sajan

iraghava · 15th April 2008, 19:54

Very nice & honest review Sajands! As for the tyre upgrade, it's best done at a good Tyre shop rather than at the dealer's. Drive straight from the showroom to the tyre wallah & he'll also give you a good trade-in price for your stock tyres. I'm sure one of the Bangy guys would be able to advise you on one or two good tyre shops with whom you can have a chat prior to taking delivery of the car.

Also, if possible insist on having your car with the stock Bridgestone's rather than the MRF's. BS's will have more trade in value compared to the MRF's.

dadu · 15th April 2008, 19:54

A very early congrats on the booking and soon to be owner.

Good choice of car, whats the reason for you to upgrade the tyres ??

Next meet and we all will go in your Verna

sajands · 15th April 2008, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadu

A very early congrats on the booking and soon to be owner.

Good choice of car, whats the reason for you to upgrade the tyres ??

Next meet and we all will go in your Verna

Hey Dadu,

Sure, anytime. will be glad to pick you, happy wheels and condor

Reason for upsize is due to the handling issue, reported by many in the ownership and test drive reviews.

Regards,
Sajan

binoyb22 · 15th April 2008, 20:28

Sajan

Even i did book a verna crdi SX with ABS.
Regarding your tyre upgrade ,upgrade it to 195/60/14.
I did upgrade my tryre profile to 195/60/14(michelin Xm1+).
I got it for 12000.Got 1900 for each stock tyre.I did it from dealer itself.you might get a better offer from outside..not sure though.

Will get delivery on thursday.Color is passion red.will post pictures very soon.

regards
binoy

sajands · 15th April 2008, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by binoyb22

Sajan

Even i did book a verna crdi SX with ABS.
Regarding your tyre upgrade ,upgrade it to 195/60/14.
I did upgrade my tryre profile to 195/60/14(michelin Xm1+).
I got it for 12000.Got 1900 for each stock tyre.I did it from dealer itself.you might get a better offer from outside..not sure though.

Will get delivery on thursday.Color is passion red.will post pictures very soon.

regards
binoy

Hey Binoy,

Congrats man.

waiting for your pics and will u be adding pete's to your baby

Regards,
Sajan

karanraheja · 15th April 2008, 20:52

That was a neat report Sajan ! Verna has got awesome power ! Glad that you insisting on ABS !

binoyb22 · 15th April 2008, 21:06

i wont be dude..its already pulling like hell

with pete's

Karandeep81 · 15th April 2008, 21:09

if the 55000 cash discount is available then wont the SX model fall within your range? but anyways its a neat car, i guess its a fair deal. all the best mate

PatienceWins · 15th April 2008, 21:26

Congrats!!
Nice review, great choice. Whats the colour of the car?

15th April 2008, 21:48

Finally! just kidding man! 9 lakhs is a huge amount. so far my verna has been completely worth it. tortured all over south india's roads, and not a squeak or rattle. still takes off like a rocket when you tap the accelerator.

what colour?

Peter should start bundling the suspension package with the tuning box. that will get it some sales.

who knows there are probably quite a few peted vernas already(other than hellstar), but they're keeping quiet about it.

sajands · 15th April 2008, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by karanraheja

That was a neat report Sajan ! Verna has got awesome power ! Glad that you insisting on ABS !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karandeep81

if the 55000 cash discount is available then wont the SX model fall within your range? but anyways its a neat car, i guess its a fair deal. all the best mate

Hi karanraheja,

I know, verna is a power hose and ABS is a must for this beast .

Hey Karandeep81,

I hope i get the cash discount, fingers crossed. so far, no word from hyundai.

-Sajan

Mission_Safari · 15th April 2008, 22:20

Nice review sajan. real earth looks good on verna.

OT: Wondering why mods haven't edited your post for excessive smiley usage. it is limited to 2 per post.

15th April 2008, 18:39	#1
sajands BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 941 Thanked: 347 Times View My Garage	My view on Verna CRDi+ABS coming soon. EDIT : Advait Hyundai backs out of commitment Hi All, Well, Its been a long, long due to provide my report, I' ve been on most of the threads on the verna but not providing my views on the same. So, here goes my small review on the Verna CRDi+ABS version It all started on 12th Feb 2008, when i sold my Santro to my best friend [car pic posted in my garage gallery] and all of a sudden, my garage looked totally empty with just a bike and dio....something was missing. Then the big debate started, now what!!!!, Which car do we go for and most important what's our budget and can we be able to afford its maintenance and insurance. first, checked the budget...most important factor, could strecth upto 9 lakhs and not beyond that and since we had hatchbacks, it was time to look at the sedan segment and everyone at home was inclined towards a sedan, First car was a M800 then Santro so, mood was upbeat for a sedan. So, narrowed down a list of cars under 9 lakhs...there was the Hyundai Verna, Ford Feista and Logan, Optra 1.6 (Dezire was yet to be launched). Oooopppsss!!1 forgot to mention, fuel option was diesle and not petrol as usage per month is close to 1200KMS. Called up all dealers in Bangalore in order to book a test drive. Ford came with a very dusty and old Fiesta, handling and condition of the car was very bad. took it for a spin and I felt like the car would disintegrate very soon, went over a small hump and front hit the bump so hard, the entrie chasis shook, salseman said, i needed to go very slow. i checked the speedo and i was crawling and the gear was in netural. how much slow i was suppose to go still???? Anyway's came back and engaged the salesman into a conservation on pretex of buying the feista, and was not convienced for the fact that in order to have ABS, i needed to shell out 10 lakhs and odd on-road price bangalore. So, told him that i would get in touch with him soon. Next to arrive was Hyundai with a Verna, all the way from Mysore as there was no test drive car available for some strange reason in bangalore. This was maroon Verna CRDi with ABS and good knows which customer's car as it was very well maintained and clean. I took it for a spin and did not floor it as it belonged to someone and hence did not feel like ripping it, Was totally gental with the car and after 5 mins of test drive fell in love with the car. Please note it had been over a week since i called up the dealers and showed interest in purchasing the car, and only Ford and Hyundai had responded. GM and Mahindra....still sleeping, no response yet. Back to the review, After the Verna test drive, sat down with the salesguy who had come down with the verna from Advaith Hyundai and i kept talking about the Verna Crdi+abs and for some strange reason, he was explaning the features of the SX model. I stopped him and said, that I was looking at the base model with ABS and not the SX, CRDi+ABS on-road is 8,99,00.00 and SX costs 9,37,345.00 on road bangalore. Then I asked him, how come there was not an option or standard feature of Airbags and his reply shocked me totally. He said, actually for indian roads ABS and Airbags are not requried and hence only ABS is provided as few customers are demanding for it and not many opt for the Airbags . Next, I went into the features and noticed that the model that i was looking at had no adjustable rear head rest's and the SX model had. When I asked him how come for the price of 9 lakhs on-road, I dont get adjustable rear head rest's?? he had no answer and then asked me to go for the SX which had. So, bottom line, if you need adjustable rear head rest's in verna, go for the SX model and shell out extra 37,000 for that. For me, this is a total rip off by Hyundai and wanted me to shell out an extra 37k for adjustable rear head rest's. Day-Light robbery indeed. Then I asked him about the Verna's famous Verna's handling effect and its beatiful skinny tries for which he again gave me a shocker, told me that till date all Verna customer's are happy and content with the car and no one has compalined on the same. It was then, I introduced him to Team-BHP.com and showed him the ownership and test drive review's, again gave me a bouncer by saying this could be a one off issue . I was like how can you say its an one off issue when so many of them agree on the same thing I asked if he could provide me adjustable rear head rest's on the one that i would be booking and he said its not possible and even if he could, it would take exactly 6 months to get it done , yup. you heard it right 6 months to get the adjustable rear head rest's into the CRDi+ABS verion. Moved on to the tries, he said that he would be able to get me an upsize to 195/60 R14 in trade for the stock 175 and this after exchange would cost me 16,0000 in total for a set of 5. Only the tries and not with alloys. after sometime, I told him that i would keep in touch again. For a month's time did not call him as we were advised not to invest money into anything as it was not the good time. so, on April 8th gave him a call and went down to the Showroom, Advaith Hyundai and meet him, had to see what he had to offer as a final price and what discounts. I 'am booking the car in my dad's name and since he a doctor, he was entitled for a income tax benift as he woulfd be applying for a loan. Since my Dad is a Doctor and has his IMA certificate, 10,000.00 discount[Hyundai has a tie up with IMA]. We had a santro eariler and if we give the copy of RC book, 10,0000 Loyalty Bonus. Dealer discount 2,000.00 Free mats, perfume and idol total Discount: 22,000.00 WE applied for a loan with AXIS bank for 5 lakhs for 3 years. EMI per month 16,301[10.75%] as my dad is a prority customer with AXIS Bank and making a down-payment of 4 lakhs. Just before I could close the deal, my dad got the April edition of What Car magazine, the same day i went to the super team-bhp meet and on page 25, it says upto 55,000 cash discount on the hyundai verna hot deal for this month. Showed this to the salesguy who gave me yet another bouncer by saying, he had no idea about this as Advaith Hyundai had not received any information from head office on the same and I had to clarify this with the car magazine on this information. Later on i received a call from mr.Goutham from Hyundai and wanted to know more on Team-Bhp and my views on the verna, i guess the salesman would have updated him on team-bhp so told him about the brilliant handling and super tries that hyundai provides and so called excellent features that the base model had and he wanted to know more and said will read about the ownership and test drive reviews posted on Team-BHP on verna. I hope atleast now, hyundai will get things right. fingers crossed The Color that i selected is the Real Earth. I'am Planing to get the ICE Setup done by Satya[BlueRaven]. I need help on the tyre upsize as where do I go for the upsize, get it down with the dealer itself or head out and get it done. Please help me out and let me know if this is a good deal overall, waiting for you views on the same. I did not want to start of talking about the car and its engine as lots has been said. Will post pics once i get my car. It's been 2month's overall and i still did not receive any call from GM and Mahindra yet. Thanks for showing patience towards my long review. Regards, Sajan Note from Support Team - More than 2 smiles per post not allowed. Do read the rules again. Last edited by normally_crazy : 1st May 2008 at 11:18. Reason: More than 2 smilies not allowed.
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15th April 2008, 19:26	#2
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	Good choice sajan. I would suggest you to buy the tires from outside. You can get same at lesser price. 205/60 - 14 would be a good choice. Tyre gurs please help him.
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15th April 2008, 19:54	#4
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Very nice & honest review Sajands! As for the tyre upgrade, it's best done at a good Tyre shop rather than at the dealer's. Drive straight from the showroom to the tyre wallah & he'll also give you a good trade-in price for your stock tyres. I'm sure one of the Bangy guys would be able to advise you on one or two good tyre shops with whom you can have a chat prior to taking delivery of the car. Also, if possible insist on having your car with the stock Bridgestone's rather than the MRF's. BS's will have more trade in value compared to the MRF's.
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15th April 2008, 19:54	#5
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	A very early congrats on the booking and soon to be owner. Good choice of car, whats the reason for you to upgrade the tyres ?? Next meet and we all will go in your Verna Last edited by dadu : 15th April 2008 at 19:56.
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15th April 2008, 20:28	#7
binoyb22 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: cochin Posts: 168 Thanked: 2 Times	Sajan Even i did book a verna crdi SX with ABS. Regarding your tyre upgrade ,upgrade it to 195/60/14. I did upgrade my tryre profile to 195/60/14(michelin Xm1+). I got it for 12000.Got 1900 for each stock tyre.I did it from dealer itself.you might get a better offer from outside..not sure though. Will get delivery on thursday.Color is passion red.will post pictures very soon. regards binoy
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15th April 2008, 20:52	#9
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	That was a neat report Sajan ! Verna has got awesome power ! Glad that you insisting on ABS !
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15th April 2008, 21:06	#10
binoyb22 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: cochin Posts: 168 Thanked: 2 Times	i wont be dude..its already pulling like hell with pete's
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15th April 2008, 21:09	#11
Karandeep81 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK/Ahmedabad Posts: 192 Thanked: 0 Times	if the 55000 cash discount is available then wont the SX model fall within your range? but anyways its a neat car, i guess its a fair deal. all the best mate
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15th April 2008, 21:26	#12
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 809 Times View My Garage	Congrats!! Nice review, great choice. Whats the colour of the car?
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15th April 2008, 21:48	#13
rippergeo Posts: n/a	Finally! just kidding man! 9 lakhs is a huge amount. so far my verna has been completely worth it. tortured all over south india's roads, and not a squeak or rattle. still takes off like a rocket when you tap the accelerator. what colour? Peter should start bundling the suspension package with the tuning box. that will get it some sales. who knows there are probably quite a few peted vernas already(other than hellstar), but they're keeping quiet about it. Last edited by rippergeo : 15th April 2008 at 21:50.
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15th April 2008, 22:20	#15
Mission_Safari BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 449 Thanked: 6 Times	Nice review sajan. real earth looks good on verna. OT: Wondering why mods haven't edited your post for excessive smiley usage. it is limited to 2 per post.
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