First Drive: Fiat Punto Multi Jet VGT 90 HP

sharma_sanjeevi · 21st July 2010, 13:15

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Originally Posted by better4worse

Aaah...tried that today morning and found them, but couldn't feel the air draft coming out of them with the AC on and blower speed at 4. Is it a case of them being disconnected for 'Active' or is it that they dont work for dynamic, Emo and Emo Pack as well ?

Great find..!! can you post a pic of those ?

Meanwhile, i will also ask BIL to check for it, as we have a GP MJD EP at our Hometown.

SpinWizard · 21st July 2010, 13:22

With all due respect to Sid, awaiting a test drive report from GTO as well, looking forward to a comparo between Punto VGT and I20 CRDI.

Akshay1234 · 21st July 2010, 13:43

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Originally Posted by better4worse

Aaah...tried that today morning and found them, but couldn't feel the air draft coming out of them with the AC on and blower speed at 4. Is it a case of them being disconnected for 'Active' or is it that they dont work for dynamic, Emo and Emo Pack as well ?

They will work only when the AC is directed towards the feet or when the climate control puts it on.

ntrack · 21st July 2010, 14:21

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Originally Posted by lancer_rit

Just to be precise,
93ps = 91.73 bhp
90bhp = 91.25ps

So, Fiat seems to have got something wrong here. If its 93ps (after say rounding), it should be atleast 91bhp. If its 90bhp (after say rounding), it can be atmost 92ps.
One bhp/ps seems to unaccounted for ! Only thing I can think of as an explanation, is that they wanted to put a 90bhp rounded moniker rather than a 91 or 92bhp ?

After all the heavy discussions on Punto vs i10 CRDi, I am looking into the small picture ;-)

Well, these conversions are for the British version of HP calculations. However, manufacturers these days use the Metric calculation where 1hp=1ps. Hence HP & PS stand equal.

Fiat use 90 HP as a brand, cos the original engine was 90 hp & with BS1V modifications, the power has gone up to 93.

better4worse · 21st July 2010, 14:29

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Originally Posted by trrk

Try with air direction settings which include the footwell area, if you have not.

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

They will work only when the AC is directed towards the feet or when the climate control puts it on.

Voila, spot on guys, it works and works pretty well ! Pic for the guys who asked for it, the rear AC vent is the one at the bottom.

EDIT: I think we should take this discussion to the regular FIAT PUNTO Test Drive and Review thread.

lancer_rit · 21st July 2010, 20:25

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Originally Posted by ntrack

Well, these conversions are for the British version of HP calculations. However, manufacturers these days use the Metric calculation where 1hp=1ps. Hence HP & PS stand equal.

Fiat use 90 HP as a brand, cos the original engine was 90 hp & with BS1V modifications, the power has gone up to 93.

Not really. All European manufacturers use ps, but when quoting bhp/hp values, the British fps bhp value is used. So, that is why 90 != 93 in the first place...

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Originally Posted by Dr.AD

Good that you brought this point up. Even I was wondering why Fiat is using 90hp instead of 91hp if their engine is indeed 93PS.

However, since you wanted to be precise, let us be real precise :-) The precise conversion is: 1 PS = 0.9832 hp. Given this, we get:

Well 1 PS=0.986320071 bhp, so I guess I was already 'real' precise ;-) Use
http://www.unitconversion.org/unit_converter/power.html

Cheers

sidindica · 21st July 2010, 20:33

This particular unit had a much, much better interior..hows an inconsistency? And its a 90 HP.

Akshay1234 · 21st July 2010, 21:00

Whoa that cars interiors seem so much better, and blacker??

Ricky_63 · 21st July 2010, 21:05

LOL this is the sidindca effect LOL . As for it looking blacker - all I can think of is the lighting or the camera angle.

Cheers

coldice4u · 21st July 2010, 21:21

That interior definitely looks much better. Is the lower part of the dash grey or is it blu-greyish? Also the dials are black. May be Fiat was stupid enough to send out pre-production cars as demo cars??

vulpine101 · 21st July 2010, 22:28

Especially notice the plastics near keyhole. Yes! they are so much improved. So, Final production ones seem to have got the changes.

Amartya · 22nd July 2010, 00:35

Thanks SidIndica for sharing these pics. I think that these are the final production versions that are hitting the showrooms. If this is indeed the case, the 90HP will now have the best of both worlds (decent plastics and good engine). The red stitching on the upholstery is quite subtle and I like it being understated.

better4worse · 22nd July 2010, 00:40

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

Whoa that cars interiors seem so much better, and blacker??

Thats exactly how my 2010 Punto looked when it was delivered to me, much blacker than what it looks right now 3 months down the line. Its the polish (oil) thats been applied to the dash. Look closely where the dash ends on the driver side, you would notice the colour difference as there is some area (is not as dark) where it seems the polish has not been applied. I was at one of the dealers the other day to get a FIAT genuine antenna for my Punto, I just happened to notice the 90 HP and the interiors weren't any different. Frankly the plastics and the fit/finish are that of the 2010 Punto, I am pleasantly amused that folks find it good/better ! Frankly, I dont see any inconsistency here, the plastics are consistently ordinary and would remain the same for the entire batch, till someone at FIAT makes an effort to change something.

Flash777 · 22nd July 2010, 02:07

Hmmm...thats an impressive looking pic with good fit & finish. So much for all the interior bashing, think we need to reserve our comments until a few final production cars are checked out.

At the same time, having checked out a couple of 90 bho VGT's (which to me felt decent) vs Sid's earlier pics, need to say that Fiat have been inconsistently good n bad if not consistently bad.

Still awaiting the Test Drive frm GTO...

amitg79 · 22nd July 2010, 09:49

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Originally Posted by asdon

don't increase the confusion, there is nothing called T-Jet Punto sports. Punto Sports will be a VGT Punto(90hp) with bigger alloys and sun/moon roof.

I know there's no T-Jet Punto. Just hoping for one.

And the Fiat ad does not mention 'Punto Sports' anywhere. Just Punto 90 HP.

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SpinWizard BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 82 Thanked: 28 Times	With all due respect to Sid, awaiting a test drive report from GTO as well, looking forward to a comparo between Punto VGT and I20 CRDI.
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sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,901 Thanked: 8,350 Times	This particular unit had a much, much better interior..hows an inconsistency? And its a 90 HP. Attached Thumbnails
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Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,915 Times	Whoa that cars interiors seem so much better, and blacker??
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Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,880 Thanked: 520 Times View My Garage	LOL this is the sidindca effect LOL . As for it looking blacker - all I can think of is the lighting or the camera angle. Cheers
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coldice4u BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 459 Thanked: 1,156 Times	That interior definitely looks much better. Is the lower part of the dash grey or is it blu-greyish? Also the dials are black. May be Fiat was stupid enough to send out pre-production cars as demo cars?? Last edited by coldice4u : 21st July 2010 at 21:23.
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vulpine101 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: infront of monitor Posts: 51 Thanked: 0 Times	Especially notice the plastics near keyhole. Yes! they are so much improved. So, Final production ones seem to have got the changes.
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Amartya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Evanston Posts: 1,748 Thanked: 738 Times	Thanks SidIndica for sharing these pics. I think that these are the final production versions that are hitting the showrooms. If this is indeed the case, the 90HP will now have the best of both worlds (decent plastics and good engine). The red stitching on the upholstery is quite subtle and I like it being understated.
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22nd July 2010, 02:07	#254
Flash777 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 152 Thanked: 657 Times	Hmmm...thats an impressive looking pic with good fit & finish. So much for all the interior bashing, think we need to reserve our comments until a few final production cars are checked out. At the same time, having checked out a couple of 90 bho VGT's (which to me felt decent) vs Sid's earlier pics, need to say that Fiat have been inconsistently good n bad if not consistently bad. Still awaiting the Test Drive frm GTO...
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