Swift:Tyres unavailable and so a further upsize?

MC Mayank · 12th January 2007, 17:43

Ok now all the tyre talk throws me into a new loop altogether but its a debate that I can't run away from

-The XM1 is 'legally' available. There was an article on its launch and they claim to be durable and more comfortable tyres (more comfortable wrt what is not mentioned) - Have to check for size availability.
-The turanza is not availabe in 195/60/15

Where do I get views on the michelins that have been mentioned? How is the life factor.. I have no issues with them if I know for sure hey won't become bald in 20k!..any experts listening?

Vid6639 · 12th January 2007, 18:28

Rags, The turanza doesn't have 15" i think max size bridgestone told me was 195/60-14.
Mayank, I'll give you number of direct bridgestone dealer. It's near ramaiah. He should have the GIII. Also this guy will be the cheaper compared to jc road.

iraghava · 12th January 2007, 19:05

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Originally Posted by vid6639

Rags, The turanza doesn't have 15" i think max size bridgestone told me was 195/60-14.

You're right but it's puzzling since it's standard fitment on the Honda Accord in 195/65 R15 & also on the RS in 205/55 R16. I've personally seen many 15" sizes for the Turanza's. On second thoughts maybe it's a different pattern tha the ER 60, I'll check once again.

iraghava · 12th January 2007, 19:19

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Originally Posted by MC Mayank

Where do I get views on the michelins that have been mentioned? How is the life factor.. I have no issues with them if I know for sure hey won't become bald in 20k!..any experts listening?

MC - Not sure if i've done a review but I'm just about finishing with a set of XM1's & they've run over 43k by now & will still run for another 4-5k.

I've recommended this tyre to a lot of people including Crazy Driver, Fuelled, Hellspawn etc. & everyone has been really happy with this tyre. The ride is good, road noise is absent & the grip is pretty good too. I would highly recommend this tyre for your car, I'm sure it won't disappoint you.

MC Mayank · 12th January 2007, 19:46

-Michelin energy xm1..got a quote from touqueer.. Rs. 4200/- per tyre.. how does that sound?.. I would be happy to go with raghava's advice!
-GIIIs - 5k per tyre!!!

@Vikram: Hey your pal got the XM1s?..They sound like good tyres and Primacy also has good reviews in the international market specially for longetivity but anyone has experience fitting these on Indian roads?

ES100 for 205/60 he had told me 3.8 per piece.. I have decided against 205 now.The 195/60 expected to come in 10-15 days.

so wat do u guys say? michelin XM1/primacy or wait for the Yoko ES100? I am feeling inclined towards michelin although they would set me back by another 2k for 5 tyres i guess!

Vid6639 · 12th January 2007, 22:28

Rags, the turanza's on the accord are turanza ER-30. those available for accord and skoda. different tread pattern i guess.

kpzen · 13th January 2007, 00:50

Turanza ER60 are new tyres from Bridgestone n it starts from 12" n 195/60-14 is the max size available in this...

Turanza ER30 are available in 15" n 16" only...N these come fitted in Accord n other high segment cars..

kpzen · 13th January 2007, 01:04

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Originally Posted by MC Mayank

-Michelin energy xm1..got a quote from touqueer.. Rs. 4200/- per tyre.. how does that sound?.. I would be happy to go with raghava's advice!
-GIIIs - 5k per tyre!!!

I think recently a member speedometer got 195/60-15 for 4.3K per piece....

GIIIs should cost u around 4K max...

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Originally Posted by MC Mayank

ES100 for 205/60 he had told me 3.8 per piece.. I have decided against 205 now.The 195/60 expected to come in 10-15 days.

so wat do u guys say? michelin XM1/primacy or wait for the Yoko ES100? I am feeling inclined towards michelin although they would set me back by another 2k for 5 tyres i guess!

1.Its not necessary that a tyre which has done good outside will do the same job here in India with all the great road conditions we have in store for the tyre....

2. Dont ever get carried away by the dealer....These guys have no idea about size mostly....I would say wait n get a good deal done..

3. 195/60-15 is the perfect upsize ....XM1 n ES100 both are very good tyres n most recommended here..

KP

MC Mayank · 13th January 2007, 10:57

ok fellow brothers.. the latest is that only Michelin Primacy is available in 195/60/15.. XM1 don't come in that size.. and he is quoting 4.2k per tyre..

Anyone with any experience with the Primacy??

Vid6639 · 13th January 2007, 15:16

I dont know how true this is.
I called up the bridgestone corporate office here in bangalore. They say the bridgestone GIII 195/60-15 isn't available in india.
When i told them that some shops do have them but not immediately.
He was surprised to hear that and asked for shop names. I din't tell him as i din't know.
He told me those are grey market and bridgestone in India would not honour the warranty on those tyres.
He told me their website has all the sizes available.
Bridgestone India Private Limited

iraghava · 13th January 2007, 15:34

Vid - I was thinking about today since this is a very common problem in our market. Since we rely on the shopkeeper's bill we've now way to ensure whether the tyre is a genuine import or a parallel one. Only option I know is to trust your dealer & expect him to honour the warranty. As it is with our road conditions the chances of your warranty being honoured are very low.

vikram_d · 13th January 2007, 16:23

Well as far as I know the 195/60 GIII's of any size are being officially imported by Brdigestone from Japan. They do not manufacture them here in India. And they do honour warranty claims on them. I know this because I used to have these tyres on my esteem and one the tyres had a defect which I came to know of after using it for 2 months. In one of the tyres on particular point the contact patch had gotten worn out. And this was with normal usage. And after I approached Bridgestone they gave me a free replacement.

Vid6639 · 13th January 2007, 16:38

Vikram, your right that all G-III's are being imported. Thats exactly what bridgestone told me.
But they are not importing all the sizes. There are parallel imports done by some dealers.
The 195/60-15 is not being imported by Bridgestone India. It is being imported by some 3rd party.
For this the bridegstone guy said they will not honour the warranty.

Their warranty is valid for tyres imported by bridgsetone India only.

vikram_d · 13th January 2007, 16:39

OK. Maybe. My tyre was 195/60-R13.

WasavaTyres · 13th January 2007, 21:39

Ok Mayank,with all this talk of getting after sales service and warranty I suggest you stick to Yokohama and Michelin.Energy XM1's,very good tires,great on mileage,very comfortable,and you'll get dealer to give you warranty too.If you decide to go for the yoko's,again very comfortable tyres,definite head turners compared to the XM1's and again since they're imported legally you'll get after sales service.I can PM you the number of bangalore distributor for Yokohama if u want me to,and gimme time till monday to find out who'll give you the best price for the Michelin's.Btw have you considered Goodyear's Ducaro or thier new Excellence range ??

12th January 2007, 17:43	#16
MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	Ok now all the tyre talk throws me into a new loop altogether but its a debate that I can't run away from -The XM1 is 'legally' available. There was an article on its launch and they claim to be durable and more comfortable tyres (more comfortable wrt what is not mentioned) - Have to check for size availability. -The turanza is not availabe in 195/60/15 Where do I get views on the michelins that have been mentioned? How is the life factor.. I have no issues with them if I know for sure hey won't become bald in 20k!..any experts listening?
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12th January 2007, 18:28	#17
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	Rags, The turanza doesn't have 15" i think max size bridgestone told me was 195/60-14. Mayank, I'll give you number of direct bridgestone dealer. It's near ramaiah. He should have the GIII. Also this guy will be the cheaper compared to jc road.
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12th January 2007, 19:46	#20
MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	-Michelin energy xm1..got a quote from touqueer.. Rs. 4200/- per tyre.. how does that sound?.. I would be happy to go with raghava's advice! -GIIIs - 5k per tyre!!! @Vikram: Hey your pal got the XM1s?..They sound like good tyres and Primacy also has good reviews in the international market specially for longetivity but anyone has experience fitting these on Indian roads? ES100 for 205/60 he had told me 3.8 per piece.. I have decided against 205 now.The 195/60 expected to come in 10-15 days. so wat do u guys say? michelin XM1/primacy or wait for the Yoko ES100? I am feeling inclined towards michelin although they would set me back by another 2k for 5 tyres i guess!
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12th January 2007, 22:28	#21
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	Rags, the turanza's on the accord are turanza ER-30. those available for accord and skoda. different tread pattern i guess. Last edited by aah78 : 13th January 2007 at 00:34. Reason: price already mentioned in post #20
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13th January 2007, 00:50	#22
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Turanza ER60 are new tyres from Bridgestone n it starts from 12" n 195/60-14 is the max size available in this... Turanza ER30 are available in 15" n 16" only...N these come fitted in Accord n other high segment cars..
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13th January 2007, 10:57	#24
MC Mayank BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 3 Times	ok fellow brothers.. the latest is that only Michelin Primacy is available in 195/60/15.. XM1 don't come in that size.. and he is quoting 4.2k per tyre.. Anyone with any experience with the Primacy??
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13th January 2007, 15:16	#25
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	I dont know how true this is. I called up the bridgestone corporate office here in bangalore. They say the bridgestone GIII 195/60-15 isn't available in india. When i told them that some shops do have them but not immediately. He was surprised to hear that and asked for shop names. I din't tell him as i din't know. He told me those are grey market and bridgestone in India would not honour the warranty on those tyres. He told me their website has all the sizes available. Bridgestone India Private Limited
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13th January 2007, 15:34	#26
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Vid - I was thinking about today since this is a very common problem in our market. Since we rely on the shopkeeper's bill we've now way to ensure whether the tyre is a genuine import or a parallel one. Only option I know is to trust your dealer & expect him to honour the warranty. As it is with our road conditions the chances of your warranty being honoured are very low. Last edited by iraghava : 13th January 2007 at 15:35.
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13th January 2007, 16:23	#27
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	Well as far as I know the 195/60 GIII's of any size are being officially imported by Brdigestone from Japan. They do not manufacture them here in India. And they do honour warranty claims on them. I know this because I used to have these tyres on my esteem and one the tyres had a defect which I came to know of after using it for 2 months. In one of the tyres on particular point the contact patch had gotten worn out. And this was with normal usage. And after I approached Bridgestone they gave me a free replacement.
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13th January 2007, 16:38	#28
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	Vikram, your right that all G-III's are being imported. Thats exactly what bridgestone told me. But they are not importing all the sizes. There are parallel imports done by some dealers. The 195/60-15 is not being imported by Bridgestone India. It is being imported by some 3rd party. For this the bridegstone guy said they will not honour the warranty. Their warranty is valid for tyres imported by bridgsetone India only.
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13th January 2007, 16:39	#29
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	OK. Maybe. My tyre was 195/60-R13.
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13th January 2007, 21:39	#30
WasavaTyres BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 816 Thanked: 450 Times View My Garage	Ok Mayank,with all this talk of getting after sales service and warranty I suggest you stick to Yokohama and Michelin.Energy XM1's,very good tires,great on mileage,very comfortable,and you'll get dealer to give you warranty too.If you decide to go for the yoko's,again very comfortable tyres,definite head turners compared to the XM1's and again since they're imported legally you'll get after sales service.I can PM you the number of bangalore distributor for Yokohama if u want me to,and gimme time till monday to find out who'll give you the best price for the Michelin's.Btw have you considered Goodyear's Ducaro or thier new Excellence range ??
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