Skoda Laura : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

reignofchaos · 22nd September 2009, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACM

You may have already gone of the change.

the order would be:

1) Yoko Advant Sport
2) Yoko S drive
3) Michelin PP2
4) Michelin MXV8
5) Yoko DB 500

PP2 is much better than S-Drives - I mean "much". All those will get will get murdered by Advan Neova for outright grip though.

arunjohnpaul · 10th October 2009, 12:47

Was driving my new Laura Elegance on Michelin PP2 225/45 R17 on HR rims. The grip was good, both wet and dry, looks were so - so, but the road noise was very very loud. Hit a stone once and tore a tyre and had to wait for stock and in the meanwhile managed to try out the Yoko AD07. Currently running AD07 225/45/17 in the front and PP2s in the rear, temporarily. I find the AD07 having equal grip as the PP2s, if not better. There is a mild loss of confidence on loose sand or gravel though. However, the AD07s are surprisingly quieter and softer(more comfortable) than the PP2s. The ADs absorb shocks better than the PP2s. There is a mild lack of feel, while taking a long curve at a speed of over 150kmph, the PP2s give a buzzy feel to the steering, while the ADs work like in a video game. The ADs have killer looks and seem much broader than the PP2s. Not sure of performance in the wet. Now im in a dilemma whether to go in for 2PP2s or whether to change all tyres to ADs, which means an extra investment.

itzzme · 12th October 2009, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by arunjohnpaul

Was driving my new Laura Elegance on Michelin PP2 225/45 R17 on HR rims. The grip was good, both wet and dry, looks were so - so, but the road noise was very very loud. Hit a stone once and tore a tyre and had to wait for stock and in the meanwhile managed to try out the Yoko AD07. Currently running AD07 225/45/17 in the front and PP2s in the rear, temporarily. I find the AD07 having equal grip as the PP2s, if not better. There is a mild loss of confidence on loose sand or gravel though. However, the AD07s are surprisingly quieter and softer(more comfortable) than the PP2s. The ADs absorb shocks better than the PP2s. There is a mild lack of feel, while taking a long curve at a speed of over 150kmph, the PP2s give a buzzy feel to the steering, while the ADs work like in a video game. The ADs have killer looks and seem much broader than the PP2s. Not sure of performance in the wet. Now im in a dilemma whether to go in for 2PP2s or whether to change all tyres to ADs, which means an extra investment.

Is it possible to compare tyre grip by having different tyres in the front and rear??

ACM · 12th October 2009, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by arunjohnpaul

Was driving my new Laura Elegance on Michelin PP2 225/45 R17 on HR rims. The grip was good, both wet and dry, looks were so - so, but the road noise was very very loud. There is a mild loss of confidence on loose sand or gravel though.

Somehow the Laura ESP kicks in early on loose gravel. Have myself seen the ESP light ficker even on nominal levels of loose gravel on tarmac, the car seems to loose control but it is actually gripping quite well. Seems to have more with the sporty tyres possibly due to increased grip levels not being supported by the intelligence sensors that indicate loss of grip.

arunjohnpaul · 19th October 2009, 17:31

well, with two different pairs of tyres, i could still make out considerable difference. like the road noise (both a humming noise and thuds on the road) seemed to be coming from behind, while taking a curve, the front wheels were more precise to the steering while the rear was pulling the car out(like in an oversteer), so things like that could be compared. But yea, the actual grips cannot be compared head on, only assumed.
Anyways, now i'm running all AD07s and am extremely satisfied with the performance. Only question is how long till wear out?

itzzme · 21st October 2009, 13:13

in oversteer or understeer rear tyres play more role....

vibhu_f430 · 3rd November 2009, 21:42

Hi guys,

A friend is looking for new tyres on the laura L&K, inclined towards comfort and low tyre noise.

How are michelin primacy LC ?
And should he stick to stock 205/55/16 or upsize to 225/50 keeping in mind the ride quality over outright performence ??

>>BTW, Have any of you guys faced issues with the tyre preasure sensor after a tyre change ?

Cheers !

abhinav.gupta88 · 3rd November 2009, 21:44

The 205/60R16 would give him better comfort over the 225/50.

ACM · 5th November 2009, 15:39

For the Laura the 205/55/R16 is the standard size and it is quite comfortable unless one goes for a sporty pattern and hence a sporty side wall. - I use this size currently but with Sorty S-Drives from Yoko

The 205/60/R16 upsize available in Michellin MXV8 is even more comfy but give a indirect feal to the stearing. - Have used this size as well.

The 225/50/R16 upsize would be a definate compromise as far as comfort is concerned though better for grip and sporty drive as well as looks.

The 225/55/R16 upsize would technically not be recommended but would have good looks, better grip, decent comfort and should be tried out. It is unlikely to foul with the suspension as it is only a minor devation.

Berj79 · 5th November 2009, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by vibhu_f430

Hi guys,

A friend is looking for new tyres on the laura L&K, inclined towards comfort and low tyre noise.

How are michelin primacy LC ?
And should he stick to stock 205/55/16 or upsize to 225/50 keeping in mind the ride quality over outright performence ??

>>BTW, Have any of you guys faced issues with the tyre preasure sensor after a tyre change ?

Cheers !

if your friend wants comfort then stick to 205/55/16, thats perfect for comfort.

Ravveendrra · 5th November 2009, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by vibhu_f430

Hi guys,

A friend is looking for new tyres on the laura L&K, inclined towards comfort and low tyre noise.

How are michelin primacy LC ?
And should he stick to stock 205/55/16 or upsize to 225/50 keeping in mind the ride quality over outright performence ??

>>BTW, Have any of you guys faced issues with the tyre preasure sensor after a tyre change ?

Cheers !

Ask your friend to look for Michelin Primacy HP, I am using them and they seem to be very good.

Cheers,

Nikhilb2008 · 5th November 2009, 18:25

Primacy HP is not available in 205/55 R16.

Ravveendrra · 5th November 2009, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Primacy HP is not available in 205/55 R16.

I just went down to the car to re-verify. This is what I saw:

HP!

Skoda Laura : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread-100_2304.jpg

Right size too!

Skoda Laura : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread-100_2305.jpg

These tyres are available in very few sizes and are expensive to boot, so not fast moving this explains why Nikhil slipped up.

Cheers,

vibhu_f430 · 5th November 2009, 19:35

Thanks a lot guys !

Is 205/60 a good upsize? Its got more side wall than 205/55, so should help with the ride ? Ya ?

@ ACM> I think primacy LC replaced the mxv8 range.Its not listed on the site ?!
- www.michelin.in

@ Ravveendrra> HP is more performence oriented than LC rite? How bad is the tyre noise with the HPs?

My friend is running 205/60/15 PP2's on his corolla. The tyre roar was OK in the first 2-3k kms but off late its getting really loud !

cheers !

EDIT: @Ravv> I think 205/55 is the only 16" HP available !
MICHELIN

Nikhilb2008 · 5th November 2009, 19:42

I didnt slip up. It isnt there in the new pricelist and we were told that in that size only the Primacy LC is available.

Dont look at the website, they have outdated info.

Best thing is to check if the dealer has some old stock.

10th October 2009, 12:47	#152
arunjohnpaul BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tuticorin Posts: 36 Thanked: 0 Times	Ad07 Was driving my new Laura Elegance on Michelin PP2 225/45 R17 on HR rims. The grip was good, both wet and dry, looks were so - so, but the road noise was very very loud. Hit a stone once and tore a tyre and had to wait for stock and in the meanwhile managed to try out the Yoko AD07. Currently running AD07 225/45/17 in the front and PP2s in the rear, temporarily. I find the AD07 having equal grip as the PP2s, if not better. There is a mild loss of confidence on loose sand or gravel though. However, the AD07s are surprisingly quieter and softer(more comfortable) than the PP2s. The ADs absorb shocks better than the PP2s. There is a mild lack of feel, while taking a long curve at a speed of over 150kmph, the PP2s give a buzzy feel to the steering, while the ADs work like in a video game. The ADs have killer looks and seem much broader than the PP2s. Not sure of performance in the wet. Now im in a dilemma whether to go in for 2PP2s or whether to change all tyres to ADs, which means an extra investment.
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19th October 2009, 17:31	#155
arunjohnpaul BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tuticorin Posts: 36 Thanked: 0 Times	well, with two different pairs of tyres, i could still make out considerable difference. like the road noise (both a humming noise and thuds on the road) seemed to be coming from behind, while taking a curve, the front wheels were more precise to the steering while the rear was pulling the car out(like in an oversteer), so things like that could be compared. But yea, the actual grips cannot be compared head on, only assumed. Anyways, now i'm running all AD07s and am extremely satisfied with the performance. Only question is how long till wear out?
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21st October 2009, 13:13	#156
itzzme BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 314 Thanked: 6 Times	in oversteer or understeer rear tyres play more role....
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3rd November 2009, 21:42	#157
vibhu_f430 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 205 Thanked: 87 Times	Hi guys, A friend is looking for new tyres on the laura L&K, inclined towards comfort and low tyre noise. How are michelin primacy LC ? And should he stick to stock 205/55/16 or upsize to 225/50 keeping in mind the ride quality over outright performence ?? >>BTW, Have any of you guys faced issues with the tyre preasure sensor after a tyre change ? Cheers !
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3rd November 2009, 21:44	#158
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	The 205/60R16 would give him better comfort over the 225/50.
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5th November 2009, 15:39	#159
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,745 Thanked: 4,361 Times View My Garage	For the Laura the 205/55/R16 is the standard size and it is quite comfortable unless one goes for a sporty pattern and hence a sporty side wall. - I use this size currently but with Sorty S-Drives from Yoko The 205/60/R16 upsize available in Michellin MXV8 is even more comfy but give a indirect feal to the stearing. - Have used this size as well. The 225/50/R16 upsize would be a definate compromise as far as comfort is concerned though better for grip and sporty drive as well as looks. The 225/55/R16 upsize would technically not be recommended but would have good looks, better grip, decent comfort and should be tried out. It is unlikely to foul with the suspension as it is only a minor devation.
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5th November 2009, 18:25	#162
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	Primacy HP is not available in 205/55 R16.
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5th November 2009, 19:35	#164
vibhu_f430 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 205 Thanked: 87 Times	Thanks a lot guys ! Is 205/60 a good upsize? Its got more side wall than 205/55, so should help with the ride ? Ya ? @ ACM> I think primacy LC replaced the mxv8 range.Its not listed on the site ?! - www.michelin.in @ Ravveendrra> HP is more performence oriented than LC rite? How bad is the tyre noise with the HPs? My friend is running 205/60/15 PP2's on his corolla. The tyre roar was OK in the first 2-3k kms but off late its getting really loud ! cheers ! EDIT: @Ravv> I think 205/55 is the only 16" HP available ! MICHELIN Last edited by vibhu_f430 : 5th November 2009 at 19:40.
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5th November 2009, 19:42	#165
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	I didnt slip up. It isnt there in the new pricelist and we were told that in that size only the Primacy LC is available. Dont look at the website, they have outdated info. Best thing is to check if the dealer has some old stock.
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