Skoda Laura : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

sachinayak · 5th November 2009, 20:03

The tires read 1608, so guess they are somewhere around march/april 2008?

Ravveendrra · 5th November 2009, 20:08

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Originally Posted by vibhu_f430

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Is 205/60 a good upsize? Its got more side wall than 205/55, so should help with the ride ? Ya ?

@ ACM> I think primacy LC replaced the mxv8 range.Its not listed on the site ?!
- www.michelin.in

@ Ravveendrra> HP is more performence oriented than LC rite? How bad is the tyre noise with the HPs?

My friend is running 205/60/15 PP2's on his corolla. The tyre roar was OK in the first 2-3k kms but off late its getting really loud !

cheers !

EDIT: @Ravv> I think 205/55 is the only 16" HP available !
MICHELIN

Yes, HP is available in 205/55 16 not in 225/50 16 or 205/60 16.

The HP is very silent. It is a decent compromise between ride and handling. The sidewall is not as soft as LC and not as hard as PP or PP2. Cornering is great and grip in wet is outstanding. The dry patch the tyre leaves behind on a wet road is really dry and can be seen for quite a distance.

The Primacy LC is set to replace the MXV8 and some XM1s.

Upsizing to 205/60 might improve ride quality and perhaps give better FE on long runs but will impact initial pick-up. Go for it if there is a Pete's box fitted or a remap done.

Sorry Nikhil, no offence intended, I am not aware of the present position and Michelin's range seems to be in a major churn.

Cheers,

vibhu_f430 · 5th November 2009, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Ravveendrra

Yes, HP is available in 205/55 16 not in 225/50 16 or 205/60 16.

The HP is very silent. It is a decent compromise between ride and handling. The sidewall is not as soft as LC and not as hard as PP or PP2. Cornering is great and grip in wet is outstanding. The dry patch the tyre leaves behind on a wet road is really dry and can be seen for quite a distance.

The Primacy LC is set to replace the MXV8 and some XM1s.

Upsizing to 205/60 might improve ride quality and perhaps give better FE on long runs but will impact initial pick-up. Go for it if there is a Pete's box fitted or a remap done.

Sorry Nikhil, no offence intended, I am not aware of the present position and Michelin's range seems to be in a major churn.

Cheers,

Thanks mate,

So option 1> 205/55(or60) Primacy LC

2> Primacy HP ?

@ Nikhil
Dude, can you help me with the sizes available in primacy HP 16" and the aprox prices ?

Thanks.

Nikhilb2008 · 5th November 2009, 22:43

Ravveendra --- No offence taken! Sorry if I sounded like that!

Vibhu, in 205/55 R16, you have S drive, A Drive R1, Advan Neova, Michelin Primacy LC, Continental ContiPremiumContact 2.

You decide between these.

Primacy HP is not available as of now in 16".

ACM · 9th November 2009, 16:42

Primacy LC is also available in 215/55/R16. Michelline positions it as a replacement to MXV8 but the MXV8 was a bit more premium as per their own chart of premium vs comfort vs sport tyres.

Nikhilb2008 · 9th November 2009, 17:44

MXV8 was less premium. According to Michelin, the Energy series is their low end brand. The MXV8 was part of the Energy series.

The Primacy LC is p0art of the Primacy series which is more premium.

ACM · 11th November 2009, 14:21

http://www.abletyres.com/wp-content/...lc-dl-bro1.pdf
http://www.tyrepitstop.com.au/_data/...dl%20broch.pdf

If one looks at both the links at the charts provided by Michelin, the Primacy LC seems no way any more premium than the MXV8 to start with but they have changed the positing to make it seem more premum at the cost of the rest of the range including MXV8 which they were discontinuing, but the chart cannot be truly believed as some of the other models have moved wrt to the MXV8.

Nikhilb2008 · 11th November 2009, 14:35

It's simple. At that time, they didnt have the Primacy LC, so they were forced to position the MXV8 as higher than the XM1+. Now, they dont need to.

Technically, I dont believe it is more premium. I was just mentioning the company's positioning.

ACM · 15th December 2009, 15:19

Hi! an update on the Laura tyres.
My Yoko S-Drives just competed 30K on the Laura think they can go till 40K, the earlier Michelin MXV8 had lasted 43K. Was earlier worried about the S-Drives loosing bite soon, but it's fine till now - touch wood.

The ride is firm already so going for 225/50/R16 will not quite happen may choose 225/55/R16 or 215/55/R16.

The ride was softer with the earlier 205/60/R16

Easynow · 15th December 2009, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACM

Hi! an update on the Laura tyres.
My Yoko S-Drives just competed 30K on the Laura think they can go till 40K, the earlier Michelin MXV8 had lasted 43K. Was earlier worried about the S-Drives loosing bite soon, but it's fine till now - touch wood.

The ride is firm already so going for 225/50/R16 will not quite happen may choose 225/55/R16 or 215/55/R16.

The ride was softer with the earlier 205/60/R16

Hi Ppl!!!

First Post

. I am booking a 1.8 TSI this week, with an alloy upgrade to 16" . Now I am told the stock Goodyear are loud and that is a certain no no for me. Are they Loud? If yes then I would certainly go for a switch.
The switch would be based upon the priorities as mentioned below.
1)Tyre Noise. 2) Comfort and grip (Hopefully without making a compromise on either) 3) Longevity.

Rubber wizards kindly comment

Rgds,
-Vishwa

ackyash · 19th January 2010, 10:33

My Laura's Yoko's wore out in 20,000 kms only. Price I had to pay for not taking someone's advice "Do not buy made in Japan tyres for Indian roads".
Anyways looking at the Primacy LC or ContiPremiumContact 2 in 205/60-16. (I have been using 205/60-16 rather than the factory 205/55-16 since day 1 on this vehicle)

Price for the LC's here in Chandigarh is 8400/piece and for the Conti's is 7700/pc.
Which is more balanced tyre overall - comfort + low noise , life and decent handling in wet and dry conditions.
Options are rather limited in the 205/60-16 size and I have ruled out BS, Goodyear, Pirelli, Apollo.
There seem to be some issues with bulges on the michelin's due to soft sidewalls, but anyone has some experience with the CPC 2's?

ilovefls · 19th January 2010, 15:29

Hi Ackyash,
I have been thinking about using 205/60/R16 on my Skoda Rally Sport, the stock size is the same as the one on the Laura - 205/55/R16 but some members have advised against it as they are of the opinion that it will cause scraping. Wanted to check with you how has your experience been with this size as you have used it for 20k kms. Also I have heard good things about the CPC2 so I would suggest you go with those, especially given that they are cheaper as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ackyash

My Laura's Yoko's wore out in 20,000 kms only. Price I had to pay for not taking someone's advice "Do not buy made in Japan tyres for Indian roads".
Anyways looking at the Primacy LC or ContiPremiumContact 2 in 205/60-16. (I have been using 205/60-16 rather than the factory 205/55-16 since day 1 on this vehicle)

Price for the LC's here in Chandigarh is 8400/piece and for the Conti's is 7700/pc.
Which is more balanced tyre overall - comfort + low noise , life and decent handling in wet and dry conditions.
Options are rather limited in the 205/60-16 size and I have ruled out BS, Goodyear, Pirelli, Apollo.
There seem to be some issues with bulges on the michelin's due to soft sidewalls, but anyone has some experience with the CPC 2's?

ackyash · 19th January 2010, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovefls

Hi Ackyash,
I have been thinking about using 205/60/R16 on my Skoda Rally Sport, the stock size is the same as the one on the Laura - 205/55/R16 but some members have advised against it as they are of the opinion that it will cause scraping. Wanted to check with you how has your experience been with this size as you have used it for 20k kms. Also I have heard good things about the CPC2 so I would suggest you go with those, especially given that they are cheaper as well.

ilovefls, I have never had a problem with rubbing or scrapping with the 205/60-16's on my Laura.

Gosh that sounds awful.

Anyways, the Laura's tyre/wheel area seems to be bigger overall than the Octavia RS' as the Laura is a bigger vehicle than the octavia RS. I had even used 215/60-16 GoodYear NCT 5 till 0-33000 kms and changed to Yoko DNA DB something 205/60-16 on my Laura at 33000 k.
Now it has a little less than 53000 k and the Yoko's are ready to be replaced.
I had faced no probs even with the the 215/60-16 sized NCT 5's on my Laura.

Nikhilb2008 · 19th January 2010, 21:34

If you have used 205/60 R16 on your Laura and have not had a problem, then go ahead.

I will recommend the CPC2s. They are very good tyres and offer decent VFM as well. However, dont expect too much life from them. Average life with good maintainence is around 40,000 kms. Some people have been disappointed, that is why I'm mentioning it here.

tsk13 · 17th February 2010, 22:09

Ackyash, your view of Made in Japan and not made for Indian roads may be on account of a bad batch of tyres or Grey market imports. If one uses a Made for Japan tyres on Indian roads, they shall surely fail and even burst. I'm using A539's Made in Japan (purchased from the Official channel) and I'm all praises for it. I bought this after having good amount of discussions with Nikhilb2008, kpzen, aZa etc. and your view appears to be on account of bad batch. Even Conti's and Michelin's are Made in China or Europe and if purchased from the official channel they perform well.

5th November 2009, 20:03	#166
sachinayak BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 786 Thanked: 3,190 Times View My Garage	The tires read 1608, so guess they are somewhere around march/april 2008?
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5th November 2009, 22:43	#169
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,194 Thanked: 10,178 Times	Ravveendra --- No offence taken! Sorry if I sounded like that! Vibhu, in 205/55 R16, you have S drive, A Drive R1, Advan Neova, Michelin Primacy LC, Continental ContiPremiumContact 2. You decide between these. Primacy HP is not available as of now in 16".
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9th November 2009, 16:42	#170
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,769 Thanked: 4,576 Times View My Garage	Primacy LC is also available in 215/55/R16. Michelline positions it as a replacement to MXV8 but the MXV8 was a bit more premium as per their own chart of premium vs comfort vs sport tyres.
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9th November 2009, 17:44	#171
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,194 Thanked: 10,178 Times	MXV8 was less premium. According to Michelin, the Energy series is their low end brand. The MXV8 was part of the Energy series. The Primacy LC is p0art of the Primacy series which is more premium.
	() Thanks

11th November 2009, 14:21	#172
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,769 Thanked: 4,576 Times View My Garage	http://www.abletyres.com/wp-content/...lc-dl-bro1.pdf http://www.tyrepitstop.com.au/_data/...dl%20broch.pdf If one looks at both the links at the charts provided by Michelin, the Primacy LC seems no way any more premium than the MXV8 to start with but they have changed the positing to make it seem more premum at the cost of the rest of the range including MXV8 which they were discontinuing, but the chart cannot be truly believed as some of the other models have moved wrt to the MXV8.
	() Thanks

11th November 2009, 14:35	#173
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,194 Thanked: 10,178 Times	It's simple. At that time, they didnt have the Primacy LC, so they were forced to position the MXV8 as higher than the XM1+. Now, they dont need to. Technically, I dont believe it is more premium. I was just mentioning the company's positioning.
	() Thanks

15th December 2009, 15:19	#174
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,769 Thanked: 4,576 Times View My Garage	Hi! an update on the Laura tyres. My Yoko S-Drives just competed 30K on the Laura think they can go till 40K, the earlier Michelin MXV8 had lasted 43K. Was earlier worried about the S-Drives loosing bite soon, but it's fine till now - touch wood. The ride is firm already so going for 225/50/R16 will not quite happen may choose 225/55/R16 or 215/55/R16. The ride was softer with the earlier 205/60/R16
	() Thanks

19th January 2010, 10:33	#176
ackyash BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 88 Thanked: 14 Times	Skoda Laura- Primacy LC or Conti CPC 2 My Laura's Yoko's wore out in 20,000 kms only. Price I had to pay for not taking someone's advice "Do not buy made in Japan tyres for Indian roads". Anyways looking at the Primacy LC or ContiPremiumContact 2 in 205/60-16. (I have been using 205/60-16 rather than the factory 205/55-16 since day 1 on this vehicle) Price for the LC's here in Chandigarh is 8400/piece and for the Conti's is 7700/pc. Which is more balanced tyre overall - comfort + low noise , life and decent handling in wet and dry conditions. Options are rather limited in the 205/60-16 size and I have ruled out BS, Goodyear, Pirelli, Apollo. There seem to be some issues with bulges on the michelin's due to soft sidewalls, but anyone has some experience with the CPC 2's?
	() Thanks

19th January 2010, 21:34	#179
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,194 Thanked: 10,178 Times	If you have used 205/60 R16 on your Laura and have not had a problem, then go ahead. I will recommend the CPC2s. They are very good tyres and offer decent VFM as well. However, dont expect too much life from them. Average life with good maintainence is around 40,000 kms. Some people have been disappointed, that is why I'm mentioning it here.
	() Thanks

17th February 2010, 22:09	#180
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 362 Times	Ackyash, your view of Made in Japan and not made for Indian roads may be on account of a bad batch of tyres or Grey market imports. If one uses a Made for Japan tyres on Indian roads, they shall surely fail and even burst. I'm using A539's Made in Japan (purchased from the Official channel) and I'm all praises for it. I bought this after having good amount of discussions with Nikhilb2008, kpzen, aZa etc. and your view appears to be on account of bad batch. Even Conti's and Michelin's are Made in China or Europe and if purchased from the official channel they perform well.
	() Thanks