[Prass]

Originally Posted by drchernish

planning to get xm1+ for my verna vgt having run 52000 kms-yes i am a sedate driver.if i upsize to 195/60/14 from the original 175s will the ride become hard?Want ride comfort and lesser noise.Or should i up to 185s?the car is mainly used for highway runs.

I had 195/60-14 XM1+ on my Verna and was not much happy about the ride comfort. The handling was improved a bit on highways that I think because of the wider profile. Ride on bad roads was very uncomfortable where I could feel every road undulations and stones. Now I have changed to 185/65-14 Potenza G3s which made a great difference. I will be going for 195/60 -14 G3s once this set worns out.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by Prass

I had 195/60-14 XM1+ on my Verna and was not much happy about the ride comfort. The handling was improved a bit on highways that I think because of the wider profile. Ride on bad roads was very uncomfortable where I could feel every road undulations and stones. Now I have changed to 185/65-14 Potenza G3s which made a great difference. I will be going for 195/60 -14 G3s once this set worns out.

Prass
What kind of logic is that

You were not satisfied with 195/60 and you again wanna try that ??

[devarshi84]

1. Firstly, you cannot compare Potenza to Michelin xm1+ for comfort. It's Turanza you should be talking about. Yes Handling will definitly be better with Potenza.

2. You have gone for a higher profile at present which makes your car comfortable. Going low profile again and that too with Potenza will only make things worse.

The proper upsize for a verna will be 185/65 R14 IIRC. Please do correct me if I am wrong.

[Prass]

Originally Posted by kpzen

Prass
What kind of logic is that

You were not satisfied with 195/60 and you again wanna try that ??

Its the XM1+ that I am not satisfied with, because I have a Figo TDCI which runs on the same 195/60-14 XM1+ tyres and I feel that the ride quality is still not that good compared to the OEM 175/65-14 MRFs on bad roads even though this upsize increased the profile slightly. So I think it is not just because of the profile size change.
I have received good feedback from one of my friend running 195/60-14 Potenza G3s on his Verna which made me decide to buy them (185s) an I am perfectly satisfied with my choice.

Originally Posted by devarshi84

1. Firstly, you cannot compare Potenza to Michelin xm1+ for comfort. It's Turanza you should be talking about. Yes Handling will definitly be better with Potenza.

2. You have gone for a higher profile at present which makes your car comfortable. Going low profile again and that too with Potenza will only make things worse.

The proper upsize for a verna will be 185/65 R14 IIRC. Please do correct me if I am wrong.

I have used both of them and hence the comparison.

195/60-14 is a proper upsize for Verna provided the rim size is atleast 5.5 inches wide. The ABS model comes with OEM 185/65-14 tyres in 5.5 inches rim. Not sure of the OEM rim size of non ABS model with 175/70-14 tyres . If it is 5 inches, then you are correct . If alloys, there wont be any problem fitting 185s or 195s I hope.

[Nikhilb2008]

Potenza GIIIs and MRF give better ride quality than XM1+? Have you checked your tyre pressure?

[Prass]

How can we know that the tyres we buy are not imported/grey which is meant for a different country. Is there any codes/ markings on tyre which specifies the tyre is made for India. I could not find any "Made in ..." marking on the outer sidewall of Michelin XM1+.

[devarshi84]

If the tyres are grey, they wont have a warranty card with the company's Indian address.

[lohithrao]

Agree here, have same issue. with xm1+ you get to feel the bad road.

Originally Posted by Prass

Its the XM1+ that I am not satisfied with, because I have a Figo TDCI which runs on the same 195/60-14 XM1+ tyres and I feel that the ride quality is still not that good compared to the OEM 175/65-14 MRFs on bad roads even though this upsize increased the profile slightly. So I think it is not just because of the profile size change.
I have received good feedback from one of my friend running 195/60-14 Potenza G3s on his Verna which made me decide to buy them (185s) an I am perfectly satisfied with my choice.



I have used both of them and hence the comparison.

195/60-14 is a proper upsize for Verna provided the rim size is atleast 5.5 inches wide. The ABS model comes with OEM 185/65-14 tyres in 5.5 inches rim. Not sure of the OEM rim size of non ABS model with 175/70-14 tyres . If it is 5 inches, then you are correct . If alloys, there wont be any problem fitting 185s or 195s I hope.

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Potenza GIIIs and MRF give better ride quality than XM1+? Have you checked your tyre pressure?

[wildsdi5530]

I have been quoted Rs.4350 per tyre for 185/65 R14 Michelin XM1+ in Tirunelveli. I need to change all 4 tyres and no bundled offers. Is this price about right? I was told the price is the same all over India. Tyre gurus please advice.

[motorworks]

@ wildsdi5530, i had recd a quote of Rs.4275 per tyre for the same specification in Tyre Empire, White field, Bangalore. So i guess the price is more or less the same.

[bruiser]

Originally Posted by lohithrao

Agree here, have same issue. with xm1+ you get to feel the bad road.

I feel the same in my FIGO after I changed to XM1+. I did not upsize and the tyre presssure is 32.

Contrary to what I had read and heard about XM1's I do not like the ride quality they offer.

And the make on them is Malaysia if I am not mistaken(I can check again and update). Are there Indian made Michelins available?

[drchernish]

Since i am planning to change my car tyres to michelin how old tyres are acceptable(from manufacturing date) as they are not a fast moving item in my city.i think thats shelf life i am asking about.

[bblost]

Originally Posted by drchernish

Since i am planning to change my car tyres to michelin how old tyres are acceptable(from manufacturing date) as they are not a fast moving item in my city.i think thats shelf life i am asking about.

No more than 6 months.
In fact I just replaced my Wagon R's tires over the weeked with XM1+.
4 tires, fitting, alignment, balancing came to 12k.
All 4 tires had 4510 as manufactured week-year.

[devarshi84]

Tough to find tyres more than 6 months old. The company didnt have any stock 2 months ago.

Based on what everyone is saying, it is time we checked the quality of the new XM1+. It is possible that XM1+ lost its edge after MIchelin hardened the tyres.

[wildsdi5530]

Originally Posted by devarshi84

Based on what everyone is saying, it is time we checked the quality of the new XM1+. It is possible that XM1+ lost its edge after MIchelin hardened the tyres.

What do you mean? Have they changed the compoundand all reviews are no longer valid? I was planning to change to Michelin, but this sure is bad news. Can tyre gurus confirm?