[guptavis]

Originally Posted by mb_jg

Shouldn't the 175 be broader than the 165? Or am I reading the specs incorrectly!

I think vrprabhu means broader when you look from the side.

In 165/80

165 is width of tyre when seen from behind of car. ( 165mm )
80 is width of tyre wall as seen from side of the car ( 80 means 80% of 165 )

side width of 165/80 is 132 mm
side width of 175/70 is 122.5 mm
side width of 185/70 is 129.5 mm

[vrprabhu]

Originally Posted by guptavis

I think vrprabhu means broader when you look from the side.

side width of 165/80 is 132 mm
side width of 175/70 is 122.5 mm
side width of 185/70 is 129.5 mm

Correct! The tyres 185/70 seem to look better in wheel wells (when seen from the side) than 165/80!

And, even though A300s are 185, the tread pattern of S322s 165 seem to make the both the tyres look similar when viewed from front.

[mb_jg]

AHA!! Got it, more rubber on the breadth than the walls, hence the broad tyres!

Anyways, I went to Tyre Point on the way to office today, he did not have the Yoko's A022, instead he showed me the Bridgestones Potenza GIII for Rs.3800 odd & the Yoko's AA01 for Rs.3300 odd. (185/70/13)
The Yoko's have a softer compound on the sidewalls to increase comfort, while the Bridgestones are a mix of hard & soft compound.
I liked the pattern of the Bridgestones, buying Yoko's did not make sense cause of the softer compound.
Request the guru's to confirm the tyre upgrade to 185/70/13. Would this affect the ride on a Palio 1.2 ELX? I am a bit skeptical about the tyres scrapping while turning. Thanks guys.

[kpzen]

185/70-13 won't scrape anywhere in Palio.
A drives would be a better overall tire than GIIIs.

[mb_jg]

Originally Posted by kpzen

185/70-13 won't scrape anywhere in Palio.
A drives would be a better overall tire than GIIIs.

I was set to pick up the A drives, but like I said earlier, the softer compound is keeping me away. I was thinking the Bridgestones will last longer given the harder compound.

[vrprabhu]

Originally Posted by kpzen

185/70-13 won't scrape anywhere in Palio.
A drives would be a better overall tire than GIIIs.

+ 1 to that. Have already done more than 3000 kms in a month without any trouble. Added to the comfort, is the silent rides of the Yokos.

[mb_jg]

Originally Posted by vrprabhu

+ 1 to that. Have already done more than 3000 kms in a month without any trouble. Added to the comfort, is the silent rides of the Yokos.

Guess will go for the Yoko's then.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by mb_jg

I was set to pick up the A drives, but like I said earlier, the softer compound is keeping me away. I was thinking the Bridgestones will last longer given the harder compound.

I'm running on the second set of A drives. 1st one lasted for 50k kms.
IMO, with 70 profile tire, you shouldn't be worrying about sidewall softness.

If you want a tire with robust sidewall and long life then get " BRIDGESTONE TURANZA ER60"

[MutantX]

guys, how about 185 60 R14 - A-Drives. How good are these tyres? I would like to have a noise-free ride with good road grip.

[mb_jg]

Finally went in for the BRIDGESTONE's TURANZA ER60, 185/70/13 for my Palio 1.2. Did a trip to Goa recently.
The tyres performed really well, minimal road noise, grip is amazing on dry & wet roads, improved braking, ride was much smoother overall.
I was worried that the huge tyres might scrape the walls of the wheel arch, but they did not.

[vrprabhu]

mb_gj, I did go and enquire about the cost of the Yokos which you were looking at earlier - AA01. Quote received Rs. 3,060/- per tyre. No freebies.



What was the cost of the Bridgestone tyres? Any freebies?

Noticed any difference in FE and Odo readings?

[mb_jg]

Tyre Point, Pune had quoted almost the same for the Yoko's, Rs.3050. I got the Turanza's for Rs.3700. I have a Palio 1.2 & the max speed I touch is 140kmph. I really did not need the soft compound of the Yoko's. The Bridgestone's performed phenomally well. I will surely go in for Yoko's once I get a faster car :o)

[kartikoak]

I got a new set of Yoko A Drives- 185/70 R14 for my Swift VDI & got free Nitrogen.
Have a problem now- what should be tyre pressure for these new wheels.
My old 165 had 36psi on Front & 33psi on Rear?
Is there a diff in pressure to be maintained between Normal Air & Nitrogen?
I do about 60Km a day & was getting about 20.XX km/ltr with 50%-75% A/C, but after change over, now F.E has dropped to about 16.XX. I suspect it is incorrect tyre pressure.
-Kartik

[sukiwa]

Originally Posted by kartikoak

Is there a diff in pressure to be maintained between Normal Air & Nitrogen?

No, don't think so. Haven't seen/heard about different tyre pressures for nitrogen & normal air.

I do about 60Km a day & was getting about 20.XX km/ltr with 50%-75% A/C, but after change over, now F.E has dropped to about 16.XX. I suspect it is incorrect tyre pressure.

Can't be just due to incorrect tyre pressure. May be pressure gauge difference between the place where you used to fill air earlier and the place where you filled nitrogen(Lokmanya tyres).
Wider tyres would reduce fuel economy to certain extent, but not this 4.xx kmpl (almost 20% in your case).

[sachinj12]

Originally Posted by kartikoak

I got a new set of Yoko A Drives- 185/70 R14 for my Swift VDI & got free Nitrogen.
Have a problem now- what should be tyre pressure for these new wheels.
My old 165 had 36psi on Front & 33psi on Rear?
Is there a diff in pressure to be maintained between Normal Air & Nitrogen?
I do about 60Km a day & was getting about 20.XX km/ltr with 50%-75% A/C, but after change over, now F.E has dropped to about 16.XX. I suspect it is incorrect tyre pressure.
-Kartik

Recommended pressure is 32 psi (front) and 29 psi (rear) for 185/70 R14. The F.E drop is too much to be true. I suspect short fueling from the bunk, or was the traffic heavier than you normally encounter?