Tata Indigo Manza : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

-NUT-case · 30th October 2009, 20:14

HI guys,
I am planning to buy a Manza Aura ABS quad

and am planning to upgrade its shoes ASAP.
Reason is for improving the appearance and better handling.

Option 1. Keep wheel size same and upsize the tires.

Option 2. Upsize the wheel and get matching tires.

With option 1, I can get 15'' alloys and use the oem tires till next tire change. This way its easier on the pocket and i wont meddle with the overall dimensions.
I can also upsize the tires alone to 185 65 from the present 185 60 profile to get it look bigger.

With opton 2 i have to get both wheels and tires together. More costly but will look better in my opinion.
I was thinking about 16'' alloys and 195 55 tires to match.

Please advice on the above and which are good places in chennai to get good alloys ( read good quality but not too costly ) and also reccomend appropriate tires for the car in chennai conditons.

Will be using the car mostly in city with occasional long distance highway trips .

nitrous · 30th October 2009, 20:34

1)There are no 185/65/R15 size tyres available.
195/60/R15 in comfort-oriented models are available though.

2) No 195s in 16" whatsoever.

Deepak of Tyrestore (who is also a member here) can help you out - 9840920870

Nikhilb2008 · 30th October 2009, 20:56

Nitrous, there is a 185/65 R15 by Michelin. It is on the pricelist. I assume it's available also.

Nutcase----- I suggest you get 15" 108 PCD wheels. And get 195/60 R15 tyres. I hope 195/60 R15 fits in the Manza's wheel well. Otherwise, you need 195/55 R15.

jkdas · 30th October 2009, 21:57

108 ? Wont it be tough to find alloys of that spec? Or 98's the one that's hard to find?

195 will help it look good

Nikhilb2008 · 30th October 2009, 22:21

100/108 PCD alloys are relatively easy to find.

-NUT-case · 30th October 2009, 23:59

Thanks Nitrous and Nikhil for the suggestions. Will contact Deepak as soon as i get my hands on the car.

My idea was to increase the overall size of the wheel a little to give it a larger look, as the car due to it high stance and size looks a little under tired even with 15''.
195 55 on a 15'' would look almost the same as a 185 60 on it as regards the size don't u think.

@ jkdas , 98 pcd is the difficult ones to find. Comes in punto and linea.

Zappo · 31st October 2009, 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

108 ? Wont it be tough to find alloys of that spec?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

100/108 PCD alloys are relatively easy to find.

Actually though 108 PCD is not difficult to find but the choices are woefully less. I was at one of the biggest tyre and alloy dealers place last week. And I am looking for 108 PCDs as that is what Tata uses. Unfortunately the choices in 108 PCD are very limited. Almost nothing in 13" and very few in 14". According to this dealer 108 is a speciality of Ford and Tata while most others use 100 PCD. So there are numerous choices in 100 PCD alloys. However when it comes to 108 PCD the choices are far and in between. In fact he gave me the catalog of at least 8 different manufacturers. I was frustrated to see that I could spot so few 108 PCD alloy designs that I could count them on my 2 fingers!

98 PCD is almost an extinct size I guess. Poor Fiat guys have it real tough.

greenhorn · 31st October 2009, 04:52

from my research - I've found 1 lenso design which I liked. Its like the ritz OE alloy, but matte black

neo and apollo have a few options in 108. But they are all 14"

-NUT-case · 31st October 2009, 19:17

Well guys , the manza is the first car from TATA that will inspire owners to add to its quirky good looks as the old inidca and indigo were beyond redemption as far as looks were concerned.

The vista is good looking in its own way but i havn't seen many of them here in chennai.

I'm sure more 108 pcd alloys will come into the market once manza starts rolling off the showrooms.

Will visit dealers here and try and find out situation in chennai.

The tata dealers have 98 pcd alloys for fiat cars but only a few models and they charge about 28000 for a set of 5 alloys.

nitrous · 31st October 2009, 19:55

108 is not new.
Its been the PCD for the decade old Ford Ikon, and cars like Indica, Indigo, Vista, Fiesta, Fusion, etc.

108 is not as rare as 114.3 or 98.

-NUT-case · 1st November 2009, 22:55

Guys ,
Was going through some alloy wheels sites like neo and sai mag .
The manza come with 5.5 j .
Most of the 15 and 16 inch wheels are either 6 or 7 . Only the 13 and 14 inchers come at 5.5 .
And also there is no mention of the offset of the manza wheels.

Now is it very importatnt to stick to the manufacturer spec for width of wheels or can u go in for 15 or 16 inchers with 6 or 7 j.

Here is the site for Neo alloys
Welcome to Neo Wheels

They have a dealer in chennai as well for those who are interested.

MihirC · 23rd November 2009, 17:50

Hi guys, Im planning to book a Saffire A+ and was interested in upsizing the tyres for better grip. My concern is Im absolutely in love with the ride quality that I experienced in the Manza and the way it absorbs all the bumps and craters till 60km/hr, and I wouldn’t want this ride quality to get compromised in any smallest way.

My queries are as follows,

1) I was planning to go for Bridgestone 195/60 R15 which are there on the linea and wanted to know the advantages/disadvantages of the same. Also if the upsize would have any impact on the odo/speedo readings,
2) How much money can I expect for the stock tyres if I decide to get the upsizing done from the dealer before the delivery, also how much would the new tyres cost me. I don’t want to put in more than 5K after exchange for the stock tyres.

Please help guys.

P.S> I went thru the tyre bible but it wasn’t enough.

Cheers

MihirC · 26th November 2009, 16:49

Hi guys , eagerly waiting for your inputs on my post above.

Thanks.

Nikhilb2008 · 26th November 2009, 17:25

Go for 195/60 R15 from Michelin or Continental. Dont bother with the Bridgestones or the A drives.

I think you will definitely end up spending more than 5k for the upgrade. Simply because the size that comes OEM on the Manza is very rare. It fits only the Manza. So, when a dealer buys it back, he will have to wait till another Manza customer comes looking for a used tyre before he clears hi inventory. Due to this, the resale value is miserable.

It's the same case even with 175/65 R15 which comes on the ANHC and Jazz.

The Conti in 195/60 R15 would cost around 4.5k. The Michelin would cost around 5k per tyre. Expect a buyback of 2k per tyre.

MihirC · 26th November 2009, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Go for 195/60 R15 from Michelin or Continental. Dont bother with the Bridgestones or the A drives.

I think you will definitely end up spending more than 5k for the upgrade. Simply because the size that comes OEM on the Manza is very rare. It fits only the Manza. So, when a dealer buys it back, he will have to wait till another Manza customer comes looking for a used tyre before he clears hi inventory. Due to this, the resale value is miserable.

It's the same case even with 175/65 R15 which comes on the ANHC and Jazz.

The Conti in 195/60 R15 would cost around 4.5k. The Michelin would cost around 5k per tyre. Expect a buyback of 2k per tyre.

Thanks, Nikhil. But what would be the advantages/disadvantages of the upgrade and the effects on the odo/speedo? Also will the ride quality be affected in any way.

Will the dealer upgrade for me before delivery? Im planning from concorde , Mumbai .
Apologies for the zillion questions but im relatively new to the upgrade aspect in car ownership

Thanks in advance again.

30th October 2009, 20:14	#1
-NUT-case BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 263 Thanked: 12 Times	Tata Indigo Manza : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread HI guys, I am planning to buy a Manza Aura ABS quad and am planning to upgrade its shoes ASAP. Reason is for improving the appearance and better handling. Option 1. Keep wheel size same and upsize the tires. Option 2. Upsize the wheel and get matching tires. With option 1, I can get 15'' alloys and use the oem tires till next tire change. This way its easier on the pocket and i wont meddle with the overall dimensions. I can also upsize the tires alone to 185 65 from the present 185 60 profile to get it look bigger. With opton 2 i have to get both wheels and tires together. More costly but will look better in my opinion. I was thinking about 16'' alloys and 195 55 tires to match. Please advice on the above and which are good places in chennai to get good alloys ( read good quality but not too costly ) and also reccomend appropriate tires for the car in chennai conditons. Will be using the car mostly in city with occasional long distance highway trips .
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30th October 2009, 20:34	#2
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	1)There are no 185/65/R15 size tyres available. 195/60/R15 in comfort-oriented models are available though. 2) No 195s in 16" whatsoever. Deepak of Tyrestore (who is also a member here) can help you out - 9840920870
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30th October 2009, 20:56	#3
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	Nitrous, there is a 185/65 R15 by Michelin. It is on the pricelist. I assume it's available also. Nutcase----- I suggest you get 15" 108 PCD wheels. And get 195/60 R15 tyres. I hope 195/60 R15 fits in the Manza's wheel well. Otherwise, you need 195/55 R15.
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30th October 2009, 21:57	#4
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	108 ? Wont it be tough to find alloys of that spec? Or 98's the one that's hard to find? 195 will help it look good
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30th October 2009, 22:21	#5
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	100/108 PCD alloys are relatively easy to find.
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30th October 2009, 23:59	#6
-NUT-case BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 263 Thanked: 12 Times	Thanks Nitrous and Nikhil for the suggestions. Will contact Deepak as soon as i get my hands on the car. My idea was to increase the overall size of the wheel a little to give it a larger look, as the car due to it high stance and size looks a little under tired even with 15''. 195 55 on a 15'' would look almost the same as a 185 60 on it as regards the size don't u think. @ jkdas , 98 pcd is the difficult ones to find. Comes in punto and linea.
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31st October 2009, 04:52	#8
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	from my research - I've found 1 lenso design which I liked. Its like the ritz OE alloy, but matte black neo and apollo have a few options in 108. But they are all 14"
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31st October 2009, 19:17	#9
-NUT-case BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 263 Thanked: 12 Times	Well guys , the manza is the first car from TATA that will inspire owners to add to its quirky good looks as the old inidca and indigo were beyond redemption as far as looks were concerned. The vista is good looking in its own way but i havn't seen many of them here in chennai. I'm sure more 108 pcd alloys will come into the market once manza starts rolling off the showrooms. Will visit dealers here and try and find out situation in chennai. The tata dealers have 98 pcd alloys for fiat cars but only a few models and they charge about 28000 for a set of 5 alloys.
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31st October 2009, 19:55	#10
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	108 is not new. Its been the PCD for the decade old Ford Ikon, and cars like Indica, Indigo, Vista, Fiesta, Fusion, etc. 108 is not as rare as 114.3 or 98.
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1st November 2009, 22:55	#11
-NUT-case BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 263 Thanked: 12 Times	Guys , Was going through some alloy wheels sites like neo and sai mag . The manza come with 5.5 j . Most of the 15 and 16 inch wheels are either 6 or 7 . Only the 13 and 14 inchers come at 5.5 . And also there is no mention of the offset of the manza wheels. Now is it very importatnt to stick to the manufacturer spec for width of wheels or can u go in for 15 or 16 inchers with 6 or 7 j. Here is the site for Neo alloys Welcome to Neo Wheels They have a dealer in chennai as well for those who are interested.
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23rd November 2009, 17:50	#12
MihirC BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 534 Thanked: 71 Times	What Tyre?? Hi guys, Im planning to book a Saffire A+ and was interested in upsizing the tyres for better grip. My concern is Im absolutely in love with the ride quality that I experienced in the Manza and the way it absorbs all the bumps and craters till 60km/hr, and I wouldn’t want this ride quality to get compromised in any smallest way. My queries are as follows, 1) I was planning to go for Bridgestone 195/60 R15 which are there on the linea and wanted to know the advantages/disadvantages of the same. Also if the upsize would have any impact on the odo/speedo readings, 2) How much money can I expect for the stock tyres if I decide to get the upsizing done from the dealer before the delivery, also how much would the new tyres cost me. I don’t want to put in more than 5K after exchange for the stock tyres. Please help guys. P.S> I went thru the tyre bible but it wasn’t enough. Cheers Last edited by Technocrat : 23rd November 2009 at 17:53. Reason: Removed extra font & color tags
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26th November 2009, 16:49	#13
MihirC BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 534 Thanked: 71 Times	Waiting for your inputs Hi guys , eagerly waiting for your inputs on my post above. Thanks.
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26th November 2009, 17:25	#14
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	Go for 195/60 R15 from Michelin or Continental. Dont bother with the Bridgestones or the A drives. I think you will definitely end up spending more than 5k for the upgrade. Simply because the size that comes OEM on the Manza is very rare. It fits only the Manza. So, when a dealer buys it back, he will have to wait till another Manza customer comes looking for a used tyre before he clears hi inventory. Due to this, the resale value is miserable. It's the same case even with 175/65 R15 which comes on the ANHC and Jazz. The Conti in 195/60 R15 would cost around 4.5k. The Michelin would cost around 5k per tyre. Expect a buyback of 2k per tyre.
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