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Old 21st July 2022, 11:17   #2716
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A Rolls 20hp (maybe a Barker barrel-sided Tourer?) is seen in the 1957 film Bade Sarkar. It appears to be shot in Rajasthan - maybe this is one of the Udaipur cars?

At first I thought it could be GWL2 as that was owned by Sheikh Mukhtar, but this has no vents in the bonnet. Perhaps 42GO or 64H9?

Or could it be the demonstrator 42G2 (later Patiala?), given the polished bonnet? The headlights do look like theyre mounted higher than usual, like we saw in GMK5. Over to the experts.
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On another thread, I had "jumped" to the conclusion that it was 64H9. But 42G2 definitely makes sense
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42G2 is also ruled out, as just like 42GO and 64H9 there are no external door handles, which we see in the movie, as sharply pointed out by John Fasal.
I think we can confidently say the 20hp in the film is GMK5, as the film has Durga Khote in the cast, and she owned the car at the time. One more mystery solved.
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Old 24th July 2022, 20:04   #2717
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A rare shot of WVA20 when new, with original registration number DLA 4444 visible, when with the first owner the British High Commissioner.
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Quite interesting. The plate says "UNITED KINGDOM" and no CD plate (?). Perhaps that is the roundish one on the right side of car.

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Quite interesting. The plate says "UNITED KINGDOM" and no CD plate (?). Perhaps that is the roundish one on the right side of car.
The roundish one is the GB one

This could've been registered in his personal name - thus enabling him to take back the car with him when he went back to UK.

Currently rules are in place in UK which permits UK Expats to bring back their vehicles (including Left Hand drive ones) without any Customs duties or any VAT, Punitive Taxes etc. Scores of Brits who worked with us in Dubai/UAE have done it

May be similar situation was available to the High Commissioner then
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R-R Twenty, chassis 43G5 (BMW-2471 to the best of my knowledge) was originally a Lakrawalla car.
Wonder which of the subsequent Lakrawalla cars was this traded on ? Since this is mentioned as "late 1930s", it could be GGR56.

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R-R Twenty, chassis 43G5 (BMW-2471 to the best of my knowledge) was originally a Lakrawalla car.
Wonder which of the subsequent Lakrawalla cars was this traded on ? Since this is mentioned as "late 1930s", it could be GGR56.
I have the car BMW 2471 shown above listed as GBM25, also originally Lakrawalla - subject to correction please?
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I have the car BMW 2471 shown above listed as GBM25, also originally Lakrawalla - subject to correction please?
You are absolutely correct Karl. BMW-2471 looks too modern to be 43G5 (1922 model). Hence my wording - don't know where I got that info!
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In 1937 the ruler of Darbhanga got a new handsome Thrupp & Maberly all weather body for his ten year old Phantom 1 Hooper Tourer 43EF.

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The body was later exchanged with the limousine coachwork on the Phantom III 3AZ178, and survives in the US in that guise. 43EF with the limousine body survives in Indore.
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We have seen many pictures of the gorgeous Phantom II registered "X-7998", thanks to Harit. Often seen with a Parsi family.

Here it is again, with the C-in-C. Sadly, to my knowledge, no positive identification of the chassis number.
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We have seen many pictures of the gorgeous Phantom II registered "X-7998", thanks to Harit. Often seen with a Parsi family.

Here it is again, with the C-in-C. Sadly, to my knowledge, no positive identification of the chassis number.
I think that this is chassis 91XJ, Barker tourer finished in orange with a polished bonnet. Indian agent stock until sold to the Maharaja of Bikaner in 1934, which might account for it being used by the Army C-in-C. The last I knew it was here in Australia! But I don't know who the current owner is.
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I think that this is chassis 91XJ, Barker tourer finished in orange with a polished bonnet. Indian agent stock until sold to the Maharaja of Bikaner in 1934, which might account for it being used by the Army C-in-C. The last I knew it was here in Australia! But I don't know who the current owner is.
But the magazine in which it is featured dates to 1931??
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But the magazine in which it is featured dates to 1931??
Yes, but the car went to India in about 1930 and was used by RR India until sold to the Maharaja in 1934.
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I think that this is chassis 91XJ, Barker tourer finished in orange with a polished bonnet. Indian agent stock until sold to the Maharaja of Bikaner in 1934, which might account for it being used by the Army C-in-C. The last I knew it was here in Australia! But I don't know who the current owner is.
I think you are spot on, Steve. The only significant difference between "X-7998" and the Bikaner pictures of 91XJ is the windshield. On X-7998 the sides are splayed, looks like it was changed to vertical when sold to Bikaner. The original polished aluminium wings and top of bonnet / bodyrail also seem to have repainted to perhaps a light grey for Bikaner.

The many published pictures of "X-7998" at various locations (Bombay, Rajkot) were likely taken during its "Stock / Trials" days.

I thought the car had died and gone to R-R heaven!

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An earlier discussion of X-7998 and 91XJ perhaps being the same car here:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vinta...ml#post4446411 (Classic Rolls Royces in India)

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Cross-posting the ex-Mysore New Phantom, 4RC.
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