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This car in particular may not be the one used by friend Lawrence in the First World War in Syria, against the Turks. he is quoted to have said about his roller that " A Rolls Royce in the desert is above rubies". His roller might have been a similar armoured car. I remember reading extracts from a book, Rolls -Royce : The Complete Works, which referred to Lawrence's pithy comment. I guess the Rolls Royce will have archives which will provide info. on this armoured car. Regards | |
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BANNED | ![]() yes - agreed - I m not saying this particular car was used by Lawrence, merely that "the Armoured Rolls Car" as an entity, first gained fame in Lawrence's campaign against the Turks. And the comment about the Roller and the Rubies is correct - it even appears in the book "Seven Pillars of Wisdom". Quote:
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Continuing the discussion on armoured cars doing was duty in India, apparently the Rolls Royces proved too expensive, and a large number of Crossleys were later ordered. Later these bodies were transfered to Chevy running gear too. Credit to forbe5 on flickr. ![]() ![]() |
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| ![]() Here is another shot of 44 MY ( garlanded like a local bridegroom) taken on 12th September, 1951 with the 18 year old Mir of Khairpur being welcomed by his subjects. Qatar...... well that is where the new Maharajas are now !! May she find a loving and caring home is all I pray for. |
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Hello every one. I am a new member and I wanted to ask if anyone has any information on 86RF, originally owned by Lala Chhaju Ram Chowdhury of Rohtak. The owner's family was originally from Rohtak (in eithter Punjab or Haryana) but later settled in Calcutta. Lala Chhaju Ram was one of the wealthiest men in Calcutta till his death and the car was then passed on to his son Mahendra Chowdhury. My father was a very close firend of Mahendra Chowdhury's son, till his passing a few years ago. As a youngster, my father saw 86 RF several times at their residence in Calcutta, and still maintains that it was one of the most beautiful open Rollers he's ever seen. He remembers it had an ivory steering wheel, though there are no pictures to prove this. Any information on this car will be highly appreciated. Regards mbz180 | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here is one car that I don't think we have discussed till now - subject to correction of course. Here she is at this year's Tolly show in Calcutta. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vintag...-2010-a-2.html ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Can the experts tell us more? |
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| ![]() [quote=karlosdeville;1700438]Here is one car that I don't think we have discussed till now - subject to correction of course. Sorry I am a little off the topic, but I was wondering if there is a comprehensive list of all the Vintage & Classic Rolls in India and with details of the present owner etc ? |
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| ![]() Hello everyone, Here are a couple of pictures of our former Rolls Royce, which belonged to my great grandfather, Raja Prafulla Nath Tagore. I've been wanting to find out whether this particular car survives either in India or anywhere else in the world. This is all the information I have currently: It was ordered my great grand pop some time in the early 1920s, and am certain is a late Silver Ghost. I have had a few experts who look after the Rolls Royce archives in France tell me that it's a 20 hp but by looking at and studying the picture with a magnifying glass, I am quite certain that it's a Ghost. Unfortunately, the 2 pictures here are taken by me with my camera of the original picture, so the detailing is not very good. The original picture is framed and will not fit into my scanner. What I know is that it is pre 1924 or 1923 since there are no front brakes. The grille does not have any vertical or horizontal slats, just the radiator honeycomb, which pre-dates the grille slats. Also, the length of the bonnet from the picture is too long for a 20 hp. All 20 hp I have seen have the head lamps mounted much lower. What is a dead give away that the car is not a 20 hp is that the front chassis cantilever spring have diagonal braces, something only the larger engined RR's had, never on the smaller 20 hp. Also, the fender flow of a 20 hp is more curved downwards as the shorter chassis did not allow for the more flowing wings of the larger cars. I don't have any records of the chassis no., all I know that it was registered as WB...8489. The car was in the family till the early 60s and was sold to a gentleman in Kolkata named Coco Macertich, a famous stock broker or so in Kolkata. Thereafter my father remembers seeing the car for one last time at a Statesman Rally in the mid 60s. After that the car disappeared. Rumour has it that Coco sent it out of the country thereafter via Nepal and kept it with him when he shifted back to the UK. Coco was Scottish I believe. My grandfather always told me that his father bought the car new from the UK and spent a substantial amout of money in customs duty, though the Silver Ghost archives so far have not turned out any owner by Raja P. N. Tagore's name. I think it may have been bought by him from its original owner in England. I know it's a long shot, but does any one have any information at all about this car? I would love to know whether she still survives or not. |
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| ![]() Nice pics and I hope you find some clues to the cars present whereabouts soon. I lover that mansion in the second picture, was it your family house and does it still exist ? |
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Indrojit@ You're absolutely right about 3 generations of both our families being good friends, but I don't live in a part of the house you see in the photo. That house was sold, as mentioned above. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() What a pity! I was going to volunteer to restore it for you. A beautiful house indeed. Do you have any more pics of the house, I can use it for reference for my conservation projects. |
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Thankx for that clarification.I got confused between this house and the present house you are in now. | |
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