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9th-generation Toyota Camry is here and it's hybrid only

The 9th-gen Toyota Camry will reach showrooms in the United States in 2024.

Toyota has taken the wraps off the 9th-generation Camry. The popular sedan will only be available with a hybrid powertrain in either front-wheel or all-wheel drive configurations.

The Toyota Camry is powered by a 2.5-litre 4-cylinder petrol hybrid paired with an electronically controlled continuously variable transmission (eCVT). The front-wheel drive version gets two electric motors with a combined output of 222 BHP. The all-wheel drive version gets an additional motor-generator on the rear axle, bumping the overall output to 229 BHP.

The new Camry is based on the same TNGA-K platform as the outgoing model but features a revised suspension setup. Toyota claims that the changes have made the car more responsive and agile.

Toyota has also made significant changes to the Camry’s exterior design. While the massive trapezoidal grille has been retained, the nose section has been redesigned and now features sleek U-shaped LED signature lights.

Inside, the Camry gets an 8.0-inch touchscreen infotainment system and a 7.0-inch digital instrument cluster, while higher variants get 12.3-inch displays as well as a 10-inch head-up display. Other features include wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, wireless charging, and a 9-speaker JBL audio system.

The Camry is also equipped with Toyota Safety Sense 3.0, which includes safety features like adaptive cruise control, lane-departure assist, road sign assist, automatic high beams, blind-spot monitoring, pedestrian detection and rear cross-traffic alert. Traffic jam assist, front cross-traffic alert, lane-change assist, panoramic view monitor, and front and rear parking assist with automatic braking are available as part of an optional package on higher trims.

The 9th-gen Toyota Camry will reach showrooms in the United States in 2024.

 

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Toyota to launch 100% Ethanol-powered Camry in August?

The flex-fuel Toyota Corolla Altis Hybrid was showcased in India last year.

Nitin Gadkari, Minister for Road Transport and Highways, has stated that we will soon have vehicles that run on 100% ethanol in India. He was speaking during an event held in Nagpur.

Gadkari also revealed that Toyota was set to launch the flex-fuel version of the Camry in the country in August this year. It must be noted that the minister had made a similar statement at the Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers' (SIAM) summit last year as well.

A flex-fuel engine can run on petrol blended with ethanol or methanol or pure ethanol. Vehicles powered by flex-fuel engines are currently available in a few international markets, including Brazil, USA and Canada.

In October 2022, Toyota showcased the flex-fuel Corolla Altis Hybrid in India. The car uses a 1.8-litre engine producing 101 BHP and 142.2 Nm. The engine is paired with a 72 BHP electric motor and a 1.3 kWh battery pack.

Source: News18

 

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My 2022 Toyota Camry: Pros, cons & highlights after a 437 km road trip

The sedan returns a fuel efficiency of 24 km/l when cruising at 80 km/h.

BHPian anvay recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I have driven the car for ~ 400km in 4 days. Listing down my observations:

Pros

  • It's super silent. Absorbs bad roads like a boss. While driving I have to focus hard to listen to if the engine has turned on.
  • The hold function is a gem for traffic. I can relax both feet while having the car in D mode.
  • Heads-up Display is super useful. Especially in a big car, getting alerts on HUD helped me manage this huge car in bumper-to-bumper traffic.
  • Ground Clearance is adequate for Bangalore's worst road. The super-high-speed breakers of HSR, under construction road near Cessna business park, the car will not scrape with a full load (5 folks ~90 kgs) plus luggage if driven slowly over bumps. Because of soft suspensions, if you cross speed breakers before suspension oscillations end, the car might scrape (>10kmph). BTW, the car is soo silent that scrapes sound super hard.

Cons

  • 5th passenger will not be comfortable. It's a 4 seater car.
  • AC on eco mode is best for Bangalore. For the strong cooling move to normal mode.
  • No mute button on the steering wheel is a sore point for me.
  • Cruise control's acceleration and deceleration are not very linear. Plus it starts at 30 km/h compared to polo's 20.
  • I also have to activate Cruise control every time car is turned on. No physical on the button like VW.
  • Navigation using HUD is super fun and easy. However, it works only with native maps. Native maps have all the latest addresses and routes, however, the UI is just bad.
  • Do not even think of taking the car to places with a small parking. Manipal Hospital's (Sarjapur Road) parking was a nightmare. The car barely fits in the VR mall. Thank god we have 2 cars.

Fuel Efficiency

Joy ride to airport road gives a mileage of 23-24 km/l at 80 km/h cruise control. End-to-end mileage of 21.4km/l. I was once stuck in Harlur / Sarjapur Road for 45 minutes with the car always in D mode and got a mileage of 15 km/l. So super happy with the numbers. My friend was test-driving an Octavia behind us in the traffic and got an average of 6 km/l.

Update: Just finished a 437 KM Bangalore to Puducherry. Given that the first service is still due, I drove at a max of 101kmph (The car did not go above 3000 rpm).

A few highlights:

  • Mileage 22.1 km/l from home to resort.
  • There were some bad patches but the bottom did not scrape nor did I have any issues with suspension.
  • The car was running in normal mode and reaching 100 km/h is really smooth and linear with ~20 throttles.
  • While breaking you can feel when physical breaks are used on top of regen for strong breaks.
  • The hybrid battery assists at 100kmph during sedated driving. I saw EV mode engaging as high as 80 km/h.
  • CVT gearbox keeps engine RPM around 1200-1400 at 100kmph.

PS: Sorry for no pics, will try to click on the return journey.

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Scoop! Toyota starts building strong hybrid engines in India

Toyota has started building the 1.5-litre and 2.0-litre hybrid engines in limited quantities.

Toyota is said to have started producing strong hybrid engines in India. These engines are likely to power the brand's upcoming mid-size SUV (Hyundai Creta rival) and the next-gen Innova. 

We have been told that Toyota has started building the 1.5-litre and 2.0-litre hybrid engines in limited quantities. It is said that the company is building around a couple of engines per week. 

Some of the newly built hybrid engines are being used for initial testing and optimization. Production is expected to be ramped up once this phase is over.

Toyota is also said to be building a 2.0-litre petrol engine. However, which models from Toyota's portfolio will use it is anyone's guess. 

Thanks to the Team-BHP fan (he prefers to remain anonymous) who sent this information in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing it with other enthusiasts via this Team-BHP share page!

 

 

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2022 Toyota Camry Hybrid launched at Rs. 41.70 lakh

Powering the Camry Hybrid is the same 2.5-litre 4-cylinder petrol-hybrid engine that makes 215 BHP and 221 Nm.

Toyota has launched refreshed the Camry Hybrid in India. The car is priced at Rs. 41.70 lakh (ex-showroom).

The 2022 Camry Hybrid gets a redesigned front bumper, grille and new alloy wheels, while the rear gets revised tail lamp clusters. On the interior, the car comes with a floating 9-inch touchscreen infotainment system that has Android Auto and Apple CarPlay connectivity and a 9-speaker JBL audio system.

2022 Camry Hybrid feature highlights:

  • 10-way power-adjustable driver seat with memory function
  • ORVM & tilt-telescopic steering with memory function
  • Wireless charger
  • Heads-up display
  • Reclining rear seats
  • Power rear sunshade
  • 3-zone automatic climate control

Powering the Camry Hybrid is the same 2.5-litre 4-cylinder petrol-hybrid engine. It produces 215 BHP and 221 Nm and is mated to a continuously variable transmission (CVT). Drivers can choose between three driving modes - Sport, Eco and Normal. The hybrid battery comes with an 8 years / 1,60,000 km warranty.

2022 Camry Hybrid safety features:

  • 9 airbags
  • Parking Assist with Back Guide Monitor
  • Clearance and Back Sonar
  • Vehicle Stability Control
  • Traction Control
  • Hill Start Assist Control
  • Tyre Pressure Monitoring System
 

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2022 Toyota Camry Hybrid teased ahead of India launch

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The 2022 Camry Hybrid uses the same powertrain as its predecessor.

Toyota has released a teaser video of the 2022 Camry Hybrid, indicating that its launch could be just around the corner.

The updated Camry Hybrid gets a revised front fascia featuring a new grille and bumper. At the rear, it gets a new set of LED taillights, apart from a few other minor changes.

The 2022 Camry Hybrid uses the same powertrain as its predecessor. It's a 2.5-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine that is paired with an electric motor to produce 215 BHP and 221 Nm. The engine is mated to a continuously variable transmission (CVT).

The revised model also gets updated safety tech including a pre-collision system with features like oncoming vehicle detection, emergency steering assist, intersection turn-assistance, lane trace assist and adaptive cruise control; among others.

 

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Toyota offers 8-year battery warranty on Hybrid vehicles

Toyota has two hybrid electric vehicles on sale in India - the Camry and Vellfire.

Toyota has extended the battery warranty on its hybrid models from the existing 3 years / 1,00,000 km to 8 years / 1,60,000 km (whichever is earlier).

At present, Toyota has two hybrid electric vehicles on sale in India - the Camry and Vellfire. The revised warranty will be applicable on vehicles sold from August 1, 2021.

The 2021 hybrid electric vehicle battery warranty is claimed to be the longest warranty period offered in the industry and is available to all Toyota SHEV owners. Existing customers who have purchased their cars post January 2019 are being offered similar warranty benefits at a special offer price.

The Camry Hybrid uses a 2.5-litre, 4-cylinder petrol-hybrid which produces 176 BHP @ 5,700 rpm and 221 Nm @ 3,600-5,200 rpm, along with an electric motor generator that is rated at 118 BHP and 202 Nm. The car comes with a continuously variable transmission (CVT).

The Vellfire was launched in India in February last year. This luxury MPV is powered by a 2.5-litre petrol engine developing 115 BHP and 198 Nm. The engine works in sync with dual electric motors rated at 105 kW and 50 kW at the front and rear respectively. The hybrid electric setup consists of a Nickel Metal hydride battery. The car has a claimed fuel efficiency figure of 16.35 km/l.

 

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Booked a Toyota Camry Hybrid | Strange booking experience

Not only this, when I told him that he had told me something else all together when I met him at the showroom, he flatly denied saying I must be mistaken and there is no way his dealership would accept a Camry booking like that.

BHPian Chanakya recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I have just booked a Camry and would like to share my decision process as well as the strange booking experience I had.

Present Scenario: I have a 35 km (one way) commute to work. Half city and half highway. I am mostly driven to work in my September 2013 Innova. The car is running smooth and has clocked 1.95 lakh km already. Logically, there is no need to change the car, as with my driving style and maintenance, I am sure it could go for 1.95 kms more!

In addition to this, we have a Nissan Micra and Honda Amaze Automatic, which are driven by my young sons. Finally, we have an fourteen year old Chevrolet Spark, which is well maintained by the friendly neighbourhood mechanic, which my wife uses for her 1 km commute to work!

Reason to buy a new car: A mix of YOLO feeling, wanting to break the ennui induced by these lockdowns and the midlife realisation of ‘If not now, when?’. Family egged me on with comments like ‘you deserve this’ and ‘gift yourself something nice for once’!

Choices: Instead of model specific choice making, my sons and I started with the type of vehicle. Did we want a Sedan, SUV or MPV?

Requirements were, in descending order:

  • Safety.
  • Ride Comfort.
  • Luxury.
  • No hassle ownership experience.
  • Low cost of ownership for at least eight-nine years.

With this, SUV of any type was ruled out. I drive and like to be driven sedately. Not big on dominating the road and pushing the vehicle. No chance of going off road ever. So, on grounds of back seat comfort and body roll issues, SUVs were not considered.

The only MPV we gave thought to was an Innova Crysta ZX-AT. It almost made the cut for me, but sons were reluctant to have the same (though massively upgraded and AT) vehicle again. It was proposed by wife that we could retain the present INNOVA for the times an MPV was needed and get rid of the Spark. That settled it in favour of a luxury sedan.

After reading reviews and comparisons on this forum for Camry, Superb and the newly launched Octavia, the list was shortened to Camry and Superb. However, a few ASS horrors narrated in this forum and experiences of friends who own Skoda vehicles finally made us choose the Toyota Camry.

Booking experience: There are two Toyota dealerships in Vadodara. One, Narmada Toyota, is very close to my home and that’s the one from where I got my Innova eight years ago. That also is where my Innova is serviced regularly. The other is Infinium Toyota, at the other end of the town, some fifteen kms away

I went to Narmada Toyota first. They arranged a TD for me too, bringing the owner’s Camry one day for that! Needless to say, the car stole our hearts as it ticked all our boxes. I sat down with the sales rep to figure out a final deal. I was given a printed price-list and as is my habit, as I talked to the sales rep and asked him questions, I kept noting down his responses on the price-list. Any discount ? He just smiled. How much RTO? How about standard warranty? Extended warranty? Booking amount? I noted down all his responses. The booking amount was told to be one lakh and since the delivery would take 90 days, the cost at the time of delivery would apply. All fine. Also, if I change my mind, the booking amount would be refunded.

Imagine my surprise, when I messaged him after a couple of days, on Whatsapp, that I would be swinging by with a cheque of Rs. One lakh later in the day and booking my car; the sales rep responded by writing that the booking amount would be 5 lakhs, the price at the time of delivery would apply and the booking amount was not refundable. Not only this, when I told him that he had told me something else all together when I met him at the showroom, he flatly denied saying I must be mistaken and there is no way his dealership would accept a Camry booking like that. This was like presenting a fait accomply to me – if after paying five lakhs, if Toyota increases the price by say three lakhs and it’s not acceptable to me, I would either have to willy-nilly pay the extra price or forfeit my five lakh booking amount.

I was too riled to think straight and so, didn’t think of the price-list with my notes which I had with me. But when I checked later, I saw my notes said one lakh and refundable!

Anyway, I called the other dealership. The lady there told me the booking amount would be one lakh only, was refundable if I cancelled for whatever reason (in my case, the only reason would be a huge increase in price as I was already stretching my budget) and that the price at the time of delivery would be final; which was understandable. In any case, if there was a modest price rise of upto a lakh of rupees, I would grudgingly pay.

I went down the same afternoon with my cheque for one lakh. Worked out the extra charge for extended warranty, cleared all doubts again regarding the refundability of the booking amount and booked my vehicle.

It’s been a month now and I await the delivery of my new vehicle. So, my queries for the good folk here :

Aren’t booking amounts refundable? Or is it the prerogative of the dealership? How can two dealerships insist on different booking amounts? If the price prevailing at the time of delivery is payable, how can a dealer say essentially that ‘pay this price or your booking amount is gone’?

Here's what BHPian CEF_Beasts had to say on the matter:

I believe the first dealer must have thought the facelifted Camry is on the way so let’s push the booking amount to 5 Lakhs and deliver the pre-facelift Camry to the customer so that he doesn’t back out of the deal!

Yes, booking amount is refundable but do write a mail to Toyota India about this particular dealer, I am sure the next day you will get a phone call from them saying the booking amount is indeed 1 lakh and please book the car with us!!

Here's what BHPian Raghu M had to say on the matter:

To answer the question directly - Yes, booking amounts are refundable. Generally they keep 10% for processing and credit the rest of the money to your account. The general booking amounts for crossovers is between 25K to 50K. I have seen friends book cars for as low as 5K for MSIL cars. Legally, no dealership can hold our money and say it is non refundable. When you don't buy a product, the booking amount has to be returned. Congratulations for selecting such a gem of a car. Look forward to some pics after you take the delivery of the car.

Here's what BHPian libranof1987 had to say on the matter:

Booking amounts are generally set by the manufacturer but given that very few manufacturers reign in their dealers hard and very few people bother to make some noise when dealers deviate, dealers tend to make their own rules. I doubt every manufacturer has an unconditionally refundable booking amount policy. Always best to drop Toyota Customer Care an email to get things straight.

For instance, the BMW Motorrad dealer in Pune also has a non-refundable booking amount and charges a significant "handling charge", and is more than happy to let go of a booking if you resist. Perks of being the sole dealer of an aspirational and popular brand.

Sad that Narmada Toyota chose to fool around with you, especially given your ongoing business to them and that you're booking a premium car.

Here's what BHPian audioholic had to say on the matter:

I think this is nothing but usual dealer crap when they arent interested to make the sale. Instead of telling a direct 'No we arent interested', they throw all such statements at you to discourage you from booking the car. Since the Camry is a slow moving product, they would want a confirmed booking from your end so that in case you cancel it when the car is almost in their yard, they need not undergo the pain of having to get that car off their hands. Hence, instead of that, the salesman would have been told to not go ahead with your booking and he would give such excuses.

I think even with the Innova Petrol, dealers wont order the car until you fully make the payment so that they are more sure about you going ahead with the car, if not they would need to deal with it somehow.

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Skoda Superb vs Toyota Camry

Priority is for safety features, driving comfort, new tech and services.

BHPian sgunasek recently shared this with other BHPians.

Looking for a car for my father. He has got a Chevrolet Cruze now for about 4 years. He is a saloon car lover.

Priority is for safety features, driving comfort, new tech and services. We plan to keep the car for at least 4-5 years. He clocks approximately 700 km / month (although now it has reduced due to the current situation). We like all company fitted equipment without going for any further changes.

40-50L is our planned budget. We shortlisted Skoda Superb and Toyota Camry. He did test drives of both. Each have their own strengths.

Skoda Superb

Pros:

  • Looks good
  • Driving comfort
  • Refreshed model (2021)
  • Engaging Engine

Cons:

  • Need to think about servicing
  • Not sure about it being trouble free

Toyota Camry

Pros:

  • Driving is good
  • Hybrid powertrain (saves fuel cost)
  • Not to worry about service (might cost very less)
  • Hopefully trouble free

Cons:

  • Pricey with only one model option
  • More lengthy

We were thinking of waiting for the Volkswagen Passat but no sign of release dates. Can’t wait for 3-4 months. Also considering one of the 3 Germans but it was way out of the budget and to be honest, services/ maintenance stories are horrible.

Welcome your valuable suggestions!

Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:

Both are amazing luxury cars without a high-end badge. The Superb can beat the 40 - 50 lakh German marques on many parameters, while the Camry is a Lexus with a "T" badge.

Both cars have their own pros & cons. Hope you've read our official reviews. If you don't mind the price difference and want absolute reliability + good service, go for the Camry. It is a true all-rounder that will keep the entire family happy! The Camry's face is a love it or loathe it design; if you prefer cleaner styling + a European build + VFM package, pick the Superb. The Superb will be the more satisfying to drive - especially with the new 2.0L turbo petrol - although the Camry is no longer boring either. On the other hand, no way will the Superb be as trouble free to own as a Camry, be it in the reliability or service quality areas. My brother was recently shopping in the segment and picked the Superb. Camry wasn't considered as we hate the face design & the price difference was 10 lakhs (we got a great discount on the Skoda).

Drive both again and pick the one that makes you smile more. End of the day, choosing between these two will come down to the price difference, brand preference & design preference.

And yes, please do keep your cars for longer. You lose way too much money changing them every 4 - 5 years.

Here's what RJK had to say on the matter:

Exact dilemma I faced before finalising & buying Camry in Jan'21. Superb is, well, a Superb car; very very hard to ignore if one can control the service aspect. Like you, this car is bought for my parents & I am in the country sporadically. However, I get the servicing done over the phone & for that aspect, nothing can come close to Toyota. Can't say the same about Skoda, whose Fabia we owned from 2011-2014. That car was solid but the service centre (JMD) was far from solid. And this was apparently better than the other rogue dealers that Skoda has!

All in all, if you can manage the sporadic troubles that may & will arise with the Skoda plus the service centre, Superb is a fantastic value for money.

Camry has its own benefits - bloody silent ride when its on battery, fabulous sound insulation, nice JBL audio, powered seats with lumbar support, powered steering for reach and rake. In Sport mode, it does have a little grunt but one can still can't get past the fact that its a large vehicle & can't attack turns/corners & it drives like an appliance. My point of reference is our previous Honda Civic (what a fabulous steering it had!). I purposely did not drive the Superb because I knew I would be very very tempted to buy considering the value it offered at nearly 10-12L INR less. Also, the MID doesn't offer trip info anywhere close to what the Germans do.

We bought our car from a dealer where Toyota Tsusho holds 94% ownership, so I was pretty sure that the chances of hanky panky were very slim. That gave me a lot of solace & the experience was pretty smooth, right from booking until delivery, though they skimped on the delivery formalities like garland, pooja, key handing over ceremony etc. at the showroom citing COVID. They, however, did take me to the stockyard 2 times at their expense in a new Yaris, 1st time for PDI in the yard & 2nd time for driving my car from their yard to their showroom for delivery (Yes, I'm mad & anal like that).

There, I hope I have managed to confuse you further. Feel free to ask me any specific questions related to Camry as I'm also exploring the car right now. I have been meaning to start an ownership report of the same, one day, god willing!

Here's what V.Narayan had to say on the matter:

Having owned and driven both the old Camry (business) and the Superb (personal) and driven the new Camry (brother-in-law's), I would advice Camry hands down even in my sleep. The new Camry's interiors are good, ride is great and quietness & the hybrid motor is like the Lexus ES300h. As for after sales, Skoda isn't within a hundred country miles of Toyota. The Superb may have the car enthusiast's vroom and straight line acceleration and throbbing macho engine sound and the 'thud' (so beloved of car reviewers), but trust me you don't want to deal with Skoda's ASS unless you are eager for punishment. In 14 years, yes 14 years, the Camry never had a breakdown of any kind. The Skoda, in 7 years, needed the breakdown van three times. You don't buy a car. You buy, in my opinion, a product plus a service over several years. That combined package must work well. Camry. All the best. Let us know what you go for.

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Toyota Camry gets a mid-cycle facelift

The Camry gets minor cosmetic changes on the outside and a larger touchscreen infotainment system.

The Toyota Camry has received a mid-cycle update. The car gets minor cosmetic changes on the outside and a few updates on the inside.

On the exterior, the Camry gets redesigned front and rear bumpers, new design 17-inch and 18-inch alloy wheel options and updated LED tail lamps.

On the inside, the Camry comes with a larger 9.0-inch touchscreen infotainment head-unit in place of the old 8.0-inch unit. The system is said to have better response times thanks to a new software.

In Europe, the Camry is offered with the same 2.5-litre, 4-cylinder petrol-hybrid engine as the outgoing model. It produces 215 BHP and 221 Nm and comes paired with a continuously variable transmission (CVT).

The car is equipped with a long list of safety aides including lane-keeping assist, adaptive cruise control, road sign assist, intersection turn assist to name a few.

 

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