The car is still in the service centre, with the team still investigating to find the cause and its consequent fix.

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The Issue

My car - Civic LXI 2.0 L automatic petrol (left-hand drive) (MFG - 2017)

Location - UAE

My left side axle broke down while the car was being driven.

When/How

The driver was driving the car at normal speed (30-50 km/hr) suddenly the car stopped moving so they pushed the car to the roadside. Initially, they thought maybe it was because of low gear oil.

We then shifted the car to a nearby workshop hoping that gear oil top-up would do the magic but on inspection, the mechanic told us that the axle has broken.

History

The car is a 2017 model, I bought it from the first owner last year in July.

The car had 5 years Honda warranty and all the service was done at an authorized service centre. The vehicle has run around 95,000 km (not considered a high odometer reading in UAE). During the last warranty service around Oct/Nov 2021, I had raised a few concerns like all the beadings had worn out and there is a small knocking sound on the left-hand side while turning. Accordingly, as per the service guys under warranty they have replaced all worn-out rubber beadings and a few other plastic items and joint set outboard on both sides.

On 07/07/22 my axle broke.

Current Status

The car is with the Honda service centre and as per them this is very rare or non-occurrent, they haven't found a reason and they are still investigating to find the reason.

I believe either there is a manufacturing defect in any of the parts or they haven't replaced the joint set or bad workmanship. The original axle cost around $1250.

I would like to get fellow members' input on what is the cause for the axle to break or as I said is it a manufacturing defect or negligence from the workshop.

I am attaching a few photos that I was able to take off the axle.

Here's what BHPian dhanushs had to say on the matter:

This points to one of the major symptoms before axle failure. I'm surprised the service centre guys did not take this up. After your visit to the service centre, was this problem (sound) solved?

CV joint failure is very rare and 99% of the time happens due to inadequate lubrication. Read: Axle boot failure. Which can be a common occurrence. At every service, it is mandatory to check the axle boot, along with other important checks.

In your case, I think the boot failed months back and the service centre guys have failed to notice it. If you take this matter forward, you should be getting a free axle replacement.

They should even pay for the distress you faced on the road! Utter irresponsibility on the service centre, especially if the reason for failure is an axle boot.

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Pricing & other details of the new Type R will be announced closer to the date of launch, expected in the coming months.

Honda has taken the wraps off the 2023 Civic Type R.

The new Honda Civic Type R is now in its sixth-generation and is based on the 11th-gen Civic hatchback. Honda claims that the new performance hatchback is the most powerful R-branded model ever built.

The 2023 Civic Type R carries forward the same 2.0-litre turbocharged engine paired with a 6-speed manual transmission. The engine, however, has been updated significantly making it even more powerful and responsive. Honda is yet to reveal the exact specification of the updated power unit.

In terms of design, the new Type R comes with a redesigned bodywork, concurrent with the 11th-gen Civic hatchback. It features a large rear wing, redesigned lower grille, air vents on the front bumper, and a revised bonnet design to improve airflow. The performance hatchback also sits on lightweight 19-inch alloy wheels wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres.

Inside, the Type R is similar to the Civic e:HEV. However, the Type R does come with certain exclusive bits such as a 10.2-inch touchscreen infotainment unit, a digital cockpit, sports seats with red Type R trim and suede upholstery all around, among numerous other features and tech.

The 2023 Civic Type R will be offered in five colours: Historic Championship White, Rallye Red, Boost Blue, Crystal Black Pearl & Sonic Grey Pearl. Honda also stated that the pricing & other details of the new Type R will be announced closer to the date of launch, expected in the coming months.

The car has been immaculately maintained over the past 12 years, with everything up to date.

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I have been following your thread since you bought the Civic and it has been super informative! So I just want to say thanks a ton, your thread motivated to buy a well maintained Civic myself.

I picked up my first car, a 2010 white V MT from a family friend a month ago, and I've been enjoying the ownership experience so far. I've driven a ton of Civics my friends owned over the last decade and I've always wanted to own one myself. I've done a coupe of small drives, ECR multiple times, Pondy once and I have an upcoming trip to Kodai.

The car has been immaculately maintained (mechanically) over the past 12 years, with everything up to date (fully serviced at Ignite with Mr. Raghav), even the steering rack and box was changed in September 2021, however there is still a sound that comes on full lock, and while going above 4000RPM. I took it back to Ignite but unfortunately Raghav said he has done everything possible with the car, and post this, I only have to go to Honda as only they can properly assess and diagnose the sound.

I contacted Jai Prakash after reading your thread but then realized that his workshop is on the other end of town. The steering sound doesn't concern me that much as it is very minimal as of now, but the other sound while going above 3-4K RPM sounds like an unpleasant whine, sort of like a supercharger, but unpleasant.

Attaching a few pictures of my car below.

Here is the invoice of the last service in September 2021 done by the previous owner

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In the Civic, I wanted a more immersive experience. Something similar to that in the Harrier with the 10 speaker JBL system but, with a little bit better sound quality.

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3 Years with a used Civic AT and a mid-life make over

It has been 3 years and around 28000 km with the Civic. The current odo reading stands at ~78000 km. The overall running has reduced significantly owing to Covid lockdown and restrictions. However, I managed to do 11000 kms since my last year's update. During this period, I contemplated a lateral upgrade to a used Jetta or Octavia or moving to the SUV route. However, every time I sit in the car and drive it, the thought process changes completely. Even today, a well maintained Civic is a head turner and a conversation starter when among the car enthusiast community.

Likes and Dislikes after 3 years

Likes:

1. The look of the car is simply unmatched. Even today it is a head turner.

2. The engine and its performance are simply mind blowing.

3. The gearbox (plus the paddles) compensates and keeps the enthusiast in me satisfied.

4. The handling is phenomenal and among the best cars out there.

5. The AC, seats and all other necessary aspects of creature comfort are well taken care of.

6. Very reliable and very light on the pocket to maintain.

Dislikes:

1. The ground clearance has proven to be a major issue in two distinct incidents.

2. The NVH levels and sound output felt weak, especially after the audio upgrade on Vento.

An upgrade from the Civic was contemplated as I mentioned earlier but later realized that the upgrade from the Civic was also not an easy one. Hence, to satisfy the craving for something new and to sort the dislikes to some extent, decided to give the Civic a midlife make over. These are the things I planned for.

1. Mechanical fixes wherever it was necessary

2. A new audio setup, a mid to high end one to satisfy the audiophile in me

3. A cosmetic mod with new wheels and tyres

4. A complete car detailing

Mechanical Fixes

I started to hear sounds from the front end of the car. I was sure the suspension or a few components of it were nearing the end of their life. Hence I sent the car to Jai Prakash for an inspection. The following components were replaced as per his advice.

1. Lower arm ball joint set

2. Lower arm bush set

3. Steering ball joint set

4. Tie rod end set

5. Stabilizer rod end rod set

6. Stabilizer rod bush set

7. Power steering oil flush and replacement

Once the car came back from this service, I realized that car’s alignment was not done properly. I took it to BM lal and got the alignment fixed. The car felt new, and both the ride quality and the handling had improved significantly. Jai Prakash is a magic man when it comes to cars, and he is truly a trustworthy person who will neither allow you to overspend nor try to cheat. I can vouch for his service over the last three years. Also, many of my friends have started to avail his services on my recommendation and all of them are happy.

Audio upgrade along with sound damping

Speedfreaks has become my go to destination for all audio related needs. Extremely satisfied with the audio quality in Vento and enjoying thousands of kilometers behind the wheel accompanied by a sweet sounding audio, I wanted to do something more in my Civic.

On one lazy Saturday, I scheduled an appointment and met with Karthikk Raj, the proprietor of Speedfreaks in their swanky new place opposite to Sundaram Mercedes, in Ambattur. We focused the sound stage of the Vento majorly to the front seats. In Civic, I wanted a more immersive experience. Something similar to that in the Harrier with the 10 speaker JBL system but, with a little bit better sound quality.

I had three audio components with me. A 4 channel Brazzo Amplifier, a single channel/ mono Amplifier from Infinity and a Sub woofer from Boston Acoustics. I also requested Karthikk to re-use the components in the best possible way. Also, one mistake in Vento was to use the box sub-woofer which ate into the boot space. I wanted to incorporate the sub-woofer in the Civic without compromising on the boot space.

The sound damping work on the Civic started immediately but, I was waiting for Karthikk to come back with the best audio setup for the Civic. Sound damping was done to the four doors, boot, hood and the floor. We did not touch the roof.

Few clicks of the sound damping in progress.

Karthikk came back with the following suggestions

Two potential options

I chose the second option as it was less complex with lesser number of audio components. Cost wise, both were almost the same.

This required fabrication in three places

1. To mount the sub-woofer in the corner of the boot to save space

2. To mount the 2.5" wide channel speakers on the door with a OE finish

3. To mount the DRC controller in the centre of the dashboard.

We cannot put a price to the above three elements as they require significant workmanship and customized to one's car. No two cars will have a similar setup. Kudos to the great job and the integration work.

Here are the audio components installed. Let me start from the front

1. Xcelsus 6.2U component speakers with tweeters in the front.

2. Steering mounted audio controls

3. DRC Controller: The DRC controller has the option to switch between different sources like Head Unit, Direct Bluetooth connection to the DSP, USB connection to the DSP. The centre volume knob can be used to control the volume and also the Sub woofer level. And finally 4-preset listening position configuration with preset tune.

4. Speakers with customized fabrication on the rear door: Since the car is long, I wanted to have a simple speaker setup in the rear door, which is almost the centre point of listening in the car. This will avoid the perceived void between the front and the rear sound stage.

5. Xcelsus 6.2 B component speakers in the rear parcel shelf.

6. 8 Channel DSP with inbuilt 6 channer amplifier from Sound Magus and Infinity Mono Amplifier mounted on a custom fabricated illuminated fibre glass pad. Look at the attention to detail and the cleanliness of the install

7. Custom fabricated woofer enclosure with the sub woofer

All these took close to a month to complete and Karthikk finally did his magical tuning. The car audio is simply phenomenal. We gave some time for the speakers to bed in and now, the audio output is sublime. I look forward to driving the Civic everyday just to listen to the audio. Such is the finesse and the output is comparable to luxury cars with high end audio systems. The key here is to understand the sound the tuning it right to be pleasant on the ear. I realize new sounds from multiple songs that I have heard over many years.

In addition to this, Karthikk had a few components for the Civic in his inventory for a long period of time and asked me to take a look at these and if I may like any. I picked up the body kits, mugen door sills, mugen engine cover, mugen oil filler cap, market lights on the rear bumper etc. from the inventory. He got his inventory cleared and I got these at a very good discount. Here are a few clicks of the car's exterior.

Front Angle 1

Front Angle 2

Marker Lights

Rear Angle

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Side body kits

A special mention to MMR motors, who helped in painting and mounting of the body kits. They did a phenomenal job in color matching and mounting them well.

Wheel and Tyre change

Once all the above changes were done, it was time for a final cosmetic upgrade for the wheels and tyres. Fixed an appointment with BM lal, spent a few hours at their store and finalized Lenso Jager Dyna alloy wheels of 17" size and Pilot Sport 4 tyres from Michelin, 225/45/17 dimension.

Before the wheel change

After the wheel change

Ending the post with a teaser to a new ownership thread

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The Japanese carmaker will unveil the final production-spec version of the new Civic Type R sometime in late-2022.

Honda has announced that the prototype version of its new-generation Civic Type R will be unveiled at the Tokyo Auto Salon, to be held in mid-January 2022.

The new Type R is based on the 11th-gen Honda Civic and will be offered exclusively as a hatchback. The sporty model will come with a performance body kit that includes sportier front and rear bumpers, extended wheel arches, centrally-positioned exhaust at the rear and a roof-mounted spoiler.

Honda will also introduce a number of mechanical updates to the Civic Type R. These will include updated brakes and a retuned suspension setup. The new-gen Honda Civic Type R will carry forward the same 2.0-litre petrol unit but will receive upgrades to improve performance.

The Japanese carmaker will unveil the final production-spec version of the new Civic Type R sometime in late-2022.

The SUV could use a 2.0-litre petrol engine paired with either a 6-speed manual or CVT.

Earlier this month, there were reports of a Honda developing a Civic-based SUV for the global markets. The new model has now been spotted testing.

The spy images suggest that the new Civic-based SUV will feature an upright stance with a strong shoulder line. At the rear, the car gets slim wraparound tail lamp clusters, a roof spoiler and a shark fin antenna.

In the first image, the test car is equipped with a chrome-tipped exhaust, while the other test mule has a regular exhaust. Both vehicles are equipped with blacked-out alloy wheels.

Given the fact that the new model shares its underpinnings with the Civic, it could be offered with the same powertrains as well. The SUV could use a 2.0-litre petrol engine paired with either a 6-speed manual or CVT. A hybrid version could also be on the cards.

Source: Burlappcar

11th gen Civic is a car that had me excited when I first saw the pictures online once the car was unveiled late last year.

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A caveat: This by no means constitutes a comprehensive review of the car but only my initial driving impression based upon my limited 75 minutes with the car on two different days earlier this week. For a comprehensive review, you would have to wait for the experts at the Team-BHP as and when this car becomes available in India which I hope does happen as I feel we have a serious dearth of good no-nonsense, honest to purpose sedans in India currently (I had high hopes from Skoda, however the 2021 Octavia has been priced so hopelessly that I have my doubt if Skoda would be able to move a substantial number of units/year).

The photographs were taken on two different days. I had the cars for about a grand total of 75 minutes & the pictures had to be taken under a bright sun as a result of which the picture quality is poor and I apologize for that. All these pictures were taken using a cellphone.

Touring edition

Likes

• Styling (in my limited view, not polarizing at all)
• Size (length has increased by 1.3inches over the last year's model which I don’t think is a bad thing from the Indian market’s perspective)
• Minimalist and elegant interior design (best cockpit in the compact sedan segment; period)
• Unobstructed view from the driver’s seat
• Ergonomics (everything falls to hands easily and you don’t have to search around for switches/knobs)
• Interior noise (minimal)
• 12 speaker Bose system on the Touring edition, a first in any Honda (even the base variant gets a Honda’s 8 speaker system)
• All digital instrument cluster on Touring edition (I was not expecting to write this as I prefer the analog type but the execution is the best I have seen so far)
• Top of the line safety suite (even the base model comes loaded with a huge number of active & passive safety functions as standard)
• Engines (well, there’s a reason why it doesn’t feature on the top of the list but honestly among all compact sedan, this is probably the best mill)
• Good low-end torque in both the 1.5 Turbo & NA 2 litre engines
• Absence of rubber band effect for the most part, especially on the 1.5 ltr Turbo motor (as long as you don’t floor it from standstill)
• Tire size ( for once the car does not feel under-tired at all)
• Reasonable boot capacity
• Fit & finish

Not so great

• Absence of a manual transmission (to be made available on the hatchback which will become available later in the year followed by Si & Type R but these probably wouldn’t make it to India)
• Engine gets buzzy at the top end (especially the 2 litre motor)
• Seats could have been a bit better (now I’m nitpicking)

Note: For the first time I was struggling to compile the list of negatives; the car is so good.

Touring edition

Foreground

Honda Civic, a global bestseller all over remains somewhat of an enigmatic car in the Indian context and for that, we have Honda India’s flip flop attitude towards the Civic to blame which was partly driven by Honda City’s product positioning and the way it was pitched to the Indian car buyer as the best car money can buy at that price point (in all fairness I would actually agree with that proposition to quite an extent). The trouble arose when Honda India wanted to introduce the Civic in the Indian market and it found it to be a bit challenging to justify its stratospheric pricing to the Indian customer where the quantum of money that one spends should be in direct proportion to the size of the car that you get.

In most of the developed world, Honda did not have to face this conundrum as Civic is basically an entry-level sedan that competes with Toyota Corolla, VW Jetta, Mazda 3, and Nissan Versa, and so on and so forth. Civic is fairly close to the City as far as the dimensions are concerned, however in terms of the drivetrain, the two cars differed significantly and that was the saving grace for Honda India.

We saw a few generations of Honda Civic in India. However, currently the car remains unavailable in Honda’s Indian portfolio and we do not have any confirmation from Honda whether the eleventh generation would be introduced here.

I had the good fortune to buy a brand new Honda Civic (8th gen) back in 2008 when I finished my Master's & was on the lookout for a car. Though common sense implied that I buy a pre-owned car as I had just started working, however when it comes to cars I allow my heart to rule the head ergo, I decided against it and bought a brand new Civic. It had a manual transmission with a 1.8 ltr SOHC 4 pot motor that put out 140 BHP. The car was a hoot to drive and the engine revved like crazy. For me, it was a big jump as the last car that I owned was a Ford Ikon (another one of my all-time favourites) back in India. Later in 2008, I bought a Dodge Charger and wanted to pass the Civic on to my wife but she refused to drive a stick shift and we bought a 2010 Santa Fe for her. With a heavy heart, I sold the car with only 29K on the odometer in 2010. Though I did not want to buy another sedan in the later years, I always kept track of how the Civic was evolving and to say that I was disappointed by the subsequent iterations would be an understatement.

11th gen Civic is a car that had me excited when I first saw the pictures online once the car was unveiled late last year. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the design language that Honda had used had cleaner lines and the understated elegance without the overtly busy design that the previous generation suffered from (again my humble opinion).

Base LX Variant

As I write this report, 11th gen Civic is being manufactured in US (Hatchback only), Canada (Sedan), Thailand & Japan. The car became commercially available on June 16th in North America & I called up a few dealers on 17th and found that only 3 dealers had received a couple of cars so I scheduled appointments at two different dealers on June 22nd & 23rd (owing to the prevailing circumstances car dealers are only allowing a visit by prior appointment). What I have summed up below is my initial observations/driving impression and by no means a comprehensive review of the car.

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The 2022 Honda Civic hatchback now adopts a fastback-style sloping roofline.

Honda has unveiled the 2022 Civic hatchback globally. The new hatchback is based on the 11th-generation Civic sedan, unveiled earlier this year. Honda is said to introduce the new Civic hatchback in the European market sometime next year.

As seen from the images, the 2022 Honda Civic hatchback comes with a completely new design, featuring a fastback-style sloping roofline. Honda has also made changes to the front, offering a honeycomb mesh grille, instantly differentiating it from its sedan counterpart.

The car also gets LED headlamps with LED daytime running lights, 18-inch dual-tone alloy wheels, twin exhaust tips, a 'liftback' tailgate and LED tail lights.

In terms of its dimensions, the new Civic hatchback measures 4,549 mm in length, 1,801 mm in width and 1,415 mm in height. This makes it 34 mm longer, 2 mm wider and 6 mm lower than the outgoing model. The wheelbase of the new hatchback model has also increased to 2,736 mm, which is 36 mm longer than before.

On the inside, the new Honda Civic hatchback features a cabin layout similar to its sedan sibling. The hatchback comes with a 9.0-inch touchscreen infotainment system (top-spec), 10.3-inch digital instrument cluster, 12-speaker Bose sound system, leather upholstery, wireless charging and heated seats; among others.

The increase in dimensions on the new Civic hatchback has allowed Honda to offer 35 mm more legroom at the rear.

The 2022 Honda Civic is available with two petrol engine options. These include a 1.5-litre four-cylinder turbo unit producing 180 BHP and 240 Nm and a 2.0-litre naturally aspirated petrol churning out 158 BHP and 187 Nm. Transmission options include either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed CVT automatic.

Honda has revealed the complete details of the 2022 Civic sedan. The 11th-gen Honda Civic will start going on sale in international markets soon.

Honda had released a single image of their eleventh generation Civic last week. Now, the company has revealed the complete details of the new model.

The 2022 Honda Civic comes with a clean design, following its new philosophy of 'Man-Maximum, Machine Minimum'. The car measures 4,673 mm in length, 1,801 mm in width, 1,415 mm in height and has a wheelbase of 2,735 mm.

The new-generation sedan features new LED headlamps with integrated LED DRLs. The exterior also includes stylish 18-inch alloy wheels, a sharp shoulder line running across the length of the sedan and LED tail lights at the rear.

Inside, the 2022 Honda Civic comes with a completely refreshed cabin and dashboard layout. The new sedan comes with a 9-inch floating touchscreen infotainment system with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, a 10.2-inch digital instrument cluster, 12-speaker BOSE audio system, wireless charging and plenty others as well.

Honda has also packed the 11th-generation Civic with its upgraded safety suite. This includes safety features such as traffic jam assist, low speed braking control, front and rear false start prevention, lane-keeping assist and adaptive cruise control, among others.

The 2022 Honda Civic will be offered in four variants - LX, Sport, EX and Touring. The entry-level LX and Sport trims will be powered by a 2.0-litre 4-cylinder i-VTEC engine producing 158 BHP and 187 Nm. The higher trims come powered by a 1.5-litre turbocharged petrol engine churning out 180 BHP and 240 Nm. Both engines are offered with a standard CVT automatic transmission.

The 2022 Honda Honda Civic has been spied just days ahead of its official debut.

Honda recently released a single official image of its upcoming 11th-generation Civic sedan. The Japanese company also announced that all details of the new sedan will be revealed on April 28, 2021.

Now, just a couple of days ahead of its debut, the 2022 Honda Civic has been spied. The new spy images reveal more exterior details of the upcoming sedan, including the design of the front grille, the sleek LED headlamps with the integrated LED DRLs and the turn indicators. The images also give a glimpse of the side profile, along with its newly-designed alloy wheels.

Inside, the new Civic is said to receive a major update over the current model. This includes a revamped dashboard layout. The new Civic is expected to feature a large touchscreen infotainment system, multifunction steering wheel, wireless charging, ventilated front seats and plenty others as well. Reports also suggest that customers will get multiple upholstery options to choose from.

The 11th-generation Honda Civic is said to get two petrol engine options. The lower trims will come with a 1.5-litre unit, while the higher variants will get a more powerful 2.0-litre engine. The transmission options will include both manual and automatic, based on the trim level.

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