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MG Comet impressions: Why I feel it's an excellent option for city use

Only sat inside the Comet EV, as I was actually there to test drive the ZS EV SUV.

BHPian shankar.balan recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

While at the MG showroom today to test the ZS EV I also sat in the Comet. I did not test-drive it.

But my impression is definitely that it is well put together and can be an excellent option for a city commuter.

The Comet is what Reva or E20 ought to have been by now considering that they appeared first in the market 14-15 years ago.

The cabin is ergonomic and all the controls are easy to reach. The space is excellent as a two-seater for sure and the rear seats when folded down, can swallow up an enormous amount of shopping, weekly groceries and all that.

Well designed, small and neat package overall. Did not check other details on range and charging and all that but this will 100% be a more than adequate option for the city, for sure!

However, being a tall person, I found the footwell a bit cramped and my legs folded a little awkwardly even though the seat was pushed back to the max. Also, there is a marked lack of under-thigh support.

Looks are very subjective yes. I have myself made uncharitable remarks about the Comet. But when you look at that Bajaj QUTE and the Tata Nano and the Reva and E20 and all, then why not the Comet as well?

Comet actually looks a bit like the depiction of an Electric Car in a book I got as a kid - 1974 - Ladybird - Man and His Car.

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Royal Enfield Himalayan 450: 10 observations from my showroom visit

It is priced quite well, backed by the widest dealer and service network, we have a winner here.

BHPian Legal_Eagle recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hi everyone, had the opportunity to see the Himalayan 450 during the unveiling at Kwality RE, Banashankari.

Here are a few of my observations:

  1. The bike looks substantial, build quality is leagues above the current Himalayan.
  2. The seat felt cushy, but need to test it for long runs
  3. Rear suspension felt like magic, it is supple
  4. Paint quality felt very good
  5. The bike felt pretty well balanced and light on its feet than what the spec sheet suggests
  6. Switch gear mostly felt average, couldn’t check the features of the dash but the display looked sharp
  7. Do not know the differences between variants yet apart from the colours
  8. Sounds better than KTM ADV390
  9. Ride by wire felt crisp, but a proper test ride would give a much better idea
  10. As per the representative, test rides from tomorrow or Monday depending on RTO approval, colour Kaza Brown-test ride vehicle, and deliveries to commence in December.

Will share more details after a test ride.

Bottomline: It is priced quite well, backed by the widest dealer and service network, we have a winner here. Personally, I am interested. Let us see how the test ride goes.

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4th-gen City owner upgrades to a Honda Elevate CVT: Initial Impressions

My fuel efficiency is around 9.5 km/l for over 200 km of city driving.

BHPian Geo recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I got my new Elevate delivered on October 15th. Did a Trip from Bangalore to Sakleshpur, and was waiting for the trip to complete to share my experience.

Mine is a Golden Brown ZX CVT variant, with “JP” as the significant digits on VIN (which indicates August 2023 manufacturing) and 8 km on the odometer. PDI was satisfactory and the delivery experience was overall good. I was driving a 4th Gen Honda City manual before this and found Elevate to be an overall elevated experience with my 10+ days of usage.

Initial impressions

  • I love the planted and stable feel of the vehicle. It is a gentle giant, which moves predictably and responds very well to steering as well as the throttle. Absolutely confidence inspiring when it comes to handling.
  • I also love the giant side rear-view mirrors on both sides. These are significantly larger than many other cars. Coupled with the reasonably big central rearview mirror, the vehicle's visibility is awesome.
  • As I am used to the manual 4th Gen City, I found some of the convenience features really convenient
  • Walk in with the key in your pocket, and not have to take out the key at all
  • Walk-away door-locking feature
  • Even though I am a petrohead, the convenience of not having to shift gears is definitely a nice one, when I consider all aspects.

Trip to Sakleshpur

I made a trip from Bangalore to Sakleshpur this week. 725 km round trip, at an overall fuel efficiency of 16.4 km/l. Really liked the stability and planted feel of the vehicle throughout the trip. As I was still in the first 1000 km of the vehicle, did not push the engine at all. Very good at cruising in the sub-100 km/h range. Handling, safety feel and comfort are noteworthy. Could easily navigate the bad roads, potholes, scientific and unscientific humps on the way, and other surface abnormalities. There were absolutely no concerns with regular overtaking, climbing inclines, navigating turns and turns in inclines, climbs on bad roads, etc. The vehicle was never put to the test on this trip and delivered a safe and peaceful commute.
One noteworthy feature is the superior ground clearance of 220 mm. I can safely say that I could navigate even the unscientific speed-breakers with ease. Could go on the humps head-on, instead of struggling to crisscross and navigate in other ways. Did not have any scraping incident throughout the trip.

Fuel Efficiency

I stay in Koramangala and my office is in Bellandur. As best as it can get when it comes to city traffic. My fuel efficiency is around 9.5 km/l for over 200 km of city driving. For a 725 km round trip through highways and the ghat sections of Sakleshpur, the fuel efficiency was 16.4 km/l. Both the figures are based on the displays in the meter console. Must admit that I am happy with both the numbers for a vehicle of this size and weight.

Slow speed and initial acceleration

As is evident from many other threads, slow-speed pickup is not a strong point of this vehicle at all. In fact, there is a sort of a reluctant growling when you start accelerating from rest. It sounds like a protest from the engine. But you soon get used to this nature of the vehicle where the acceleration at low speeds is slow and gradual and there is a gradual pickup instead of an instantaneous one from a Turbo engine. The initial acceleration is significantly different from the VW cousins – either Taigun or Virtus.

Once you drive it enough, you know that the engine is not underpowered or lacking, it is just that it responds slowly. Even when I took off on a curvy incline with a significant slope, the engine performed the same way and picked up gradually. You will not be left hanging in the middle.

Engine noise

This is a huge letdown, in my personal opinion. This engine doesn’t have a characteristic tone. It grunts and growls during the early pickup part and gets into a boring rhythm in the third and fourth gear range. The engine is not much audible at cruising speeds and it is the tire sounds that are predominant while cruising. Those who are expecting the Turbo sounds or even the City iVtec-like tones will be hugely disappointed by the uncharacteristic engine tone.

Road presence

It is obvious that road presence is not a strong point of this vehicle. It has an understated and mature personality in both the road presence and acceleration-heavy-power-driving areas. If size and road presence are your primary criteria, then this vehicle should not be your choice.

Overall

I consider Elevate as an upgrade for me. 90% of my time is spent in city traffic and I do 3 to 4 road trips a year. City roads are also pothole-filled and are perennially under construction these days. This gives me a much smoother and planted drive, and the safety and reliability of Honda plus the ride comfort from a trusted engine and a very well-accompanying CVT. Overall, love the package and love the drive.

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Checked out the Nexon facelift at a Bangalore showroom: 1st impressions

In terms of impressing your neighbours, this SUV is a 13/10.

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I checked out the facelifted Tata Nexon at the Key Motors dealership in Bangalore. Since I had recently gone there to test drive the Harrier, the sales executive recognized me and immediately attended to me and the family who arrived shortly later. Not all Tata dealers in Bangalore are terrible to deal with.

Coming to the facelifted Nexon:

  1. The showroom had 2 cars on display. The battery was disconnected on both. This seems to be a showroom directive.
  2. The car looks equally fantastic, irrespective of whether you are a large distance or 5 feet away. In terms of impressing your neighbours, this is a 13/10.
  3. It's only when you start looking at it with a very close eye, that you notice that the fit and finish are not as perfect as you would probably find in other cars. As slick as it looks from the outside, there are some rough edges once you slip into the car. Are they deal breakers? Probably not.
  4. I simply love the fact that Tata is offering 6 airbags in all the variants.
  5. A lot of microscopic dissecting has happened on this thread regarding the pricing of the facelifted Nexon. The dealer's price list smartly does not have the extended warranty and AMC plans added on, to combat the sticker shock.
  6. The showroom team is waiting for the test drive cars but doesn't know the exact dates on which they will arrive.
  7. Overall, I was quite impressed. I see the middle variants getting the bulk of the sales for the facelifted Nexon.
  8. In my books, the new Nexon is going to be another smash hit for Tata.

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Gypsy owner buys a Jimny AT: Shares his first impressions after 300 km

Fuel efficiency is hovering around 9.3 to 9.8 km/l, which is slightly below my expectations.

BHPian Akash_1806 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hello, friends,

I've been following this thread for a while and have gathered a lot of information about the Jimny SUV. I received my Arctic White Zeta AT on August 30th from Fairdeals Nexa, Sector-10, Noida.

As for the booking and delivery experience, there's only one word: Awesome. I booked the vehicle on August 10th, and it was delivered on August 30th. I didn't have to pay any extra amount, and there was no pressure from the dealership to buy extended warranties or accessories. The vehicle arrived at the dealership on August 26th, and payment was made after a thorough Pre-Delivery Inspection (PDI). No one objected to this, and the Customer Relationship Manager (Mr. Manoj) was extremely helpful throughout the process. I had accessories fitted on August 29th while I was present, and I must say, she looks awesome!

Now, let's talk about my initial impressions of the vehicle after driving it for 300 kilometres (I also own a 2005 ex-army Gypsy, customized to my liking, so some points might be in comparison with that):

  1. Looks, looks, and more looks. The understated, no-nonsense, boxy design looks even better in person, and some might argue it looks better than the Thar. The Zeta model's steel wheels and high tire profile add to its charm.
  2. The K15B + 4AT combination is decent and provides great driveability. There's hardly any instance when the gearbox seems confused. It always seems to be in the right gear (maybe due to the fewer number of gears?). The combination of a proper 4x4 system with low range and a naturally aspirated petrol engine feels like a match made in heaven, especially after driving the Gypsy for four years.
  3. This vehicle is not a street scorcher or a long-distance cruiser by any means. It's a thoroughbred off-road machine, best driven at sedate speeds and with caution due to its Body-on-Frame (BoF) structure and body roll. However, it's designed for off-road adventures that most street-oriented vehicles wouldn't dare to explore.
  4. 195/80 R15 Bridgestone Dueler H/L tires on a capable off-road machine? Seriously? I'm not sure what Maruti was thinking when selecting these tires. A tire change to All-Terrain (AT) or Mud-Terrain (MT) tires is a must for anyone intending to tackle moderate or extreme off-road terrain. The stock tires offer adequate grip on tarmac and mild off-road trails.
  5. The fuel economy statistics on the infotainment system and Multi-Information Display (MID) seem erratic. For example, the range shows 135 kilometres, and within a few meters, it drops to 125 kilometres without any change in throttle input. The fuel economy is hovering around 9.3 to 9.8 km/l, which is slightly below my expectations. However, I believe it will improve once the engine has been broken in and the first service has been completed.
  6. Contrary to some responses in this thread, the K15B engine in the Jimny sounds delightful around 3-4k rpm. It's not harsh, and the Noise, Vibration, and Harshness (NVH) levels are well-controlled. There are no unusual suspension, tire, or engine noises inside the cabin at city speeds. Coming from a 1.5 K9K diesel, the K15B engine seems quite refined.
  7. The steering, instrument cluster, and driving ergonomics remind me of my Gypsy, which aligns with the primary purpose of the vehicle. However, the Jimny is much more comfortable and convenient compared to the Gypsy.
  8. With its compact body structure, lightweight, and 103 hp on tap, this vehicle is fun to drive and handles small bumps and potholes exceptionally well.
  9. It checks all the boxes for my family. An automatic transmission, 4x4 capability, comfortable seating for four, four doors, six airbags, and a compact structure, all for under 17.5 lakhs on the road? There is no competition; no other car in this segment offers all of that.
  10. The MID is highly informative and displays all the necessary details along with the infotainment system. The four-speaker setup is much better than my previous car, so no complaints there. The functional but feature-rich interiors are great compared to the vehicles I've owned previously.

That's all for now. I'll update the thread once I've taken the car on the highway and on off-road tracks (like ORAZ or any other place) once the run-in period is completed. I plan to keep the vehicle stock for the next few months to understand its strengths and weaknesses as a 4x4 AT.

To answer a few questions:

  • Did I need the Jimny?

Ans: No, not at all. Any compact SUV would have met my needs where 4x4 wasn't necessary; for situations where it was needed, I could use the Gypsy.

  • Did I WANT the Jimny?

Ans: This one is a no-brainer. Yes, I did. After driving the Gypsy for about 4 years and 25k kilometres, the Jimny seemed to be the only suitable option.

  • Am I satisfied with the Jimny/Am I happy with my choice?

Ans: Yes, ABSOLUTELY. I couldn't be happier. It has its own set of pros and cons, but the pros outweigh the cons, at least for me and my family.

Ending the post with beautiful shots of this incredible vehicle.

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Honda Elevate pleasantly surprises a Jetta owner during showroom visit

The Honda SUV is more appealing to me than the Kushaq or Taigun, but the Seltos is still the looker for me.

BHPian Redline6800 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

The Whitefield Honda folks were kind enough to let me know that the Elevate would be on display. So, decided to take a look even though there was no intention to buy; as I am well served by my 2000 Honda City 1.5 EXi and 2013 VW Jetta 2.0 TDi.

The showroom folks said they already had around 500 bookings and there was quite a crowd, mostly families. There is still quite a lot of power in the Brand Honda!

The ZX manual was on display in Blue. No pics and videos were allowed, which was really lame, considering all the reviews on the car are already out!

I found the Elevate, more appealing in terms of looks as compared to Kushaq/Taigun as well as the over-styled Creta. The Seltos is still the looker for me.

Fit/finish is as good as anything in the class and coming from the Jetta, which is built like a tank and has quality plastics and rubber beadings, there was nothing to complain about the Elevate. The solid thunk from the boot lid and doors of the Elevate was a pleasant surprise!

It certainly appears very well built and a 5-star safety rating once tested, will be a big plus.

Rear seat comfort was excellent for my height of 6.1 and 88 kg weight, though leg room was not as lavish as the City.

I really like the seat fabric used - which I assume is a type of leatherette. The boot space was really good and again was surprised by how robust the boot lid felt.

Typical of a Honda, the driving position was great, everything fell to hand easily and quality levels were more than acceptable to me. The AC vents felt solid too. Once I lowered the front seat, I found a comfortable seating position.

The sunroof did seem a tad small, but some folks I spoke to said, a panoramic sunroof ends up heating up the cabin quite a bit.

Overall this is a solid, sensible, comfortable vehicle that will appeal to families looking for reliable transportation with low running costs. But really it is a 4 seater with 2 seated comfortably in the rear.

If the driving experience is as a Honda should be - feel some steering, light clutch and gearbox, sweet engine and reasonably sorted suspension, this will be a good buy. Of course, a powerful AC will be a given as well.

Frankly, as a Jetta owner, I expected to be let down by the Elevate, but it surprised me and should meet the needs of most customers, who are not feature hunters.

What is evident though, is Honda's slow decline into mediocrity. There is just no design magic in their cars any longer, as they used to be, about a decade and a half ago.

Change the badge and this could be another appliance made by Maruyota.

To my mind, customer perception will place the Hyundai Creta/Kia Seltos as No.1, the VW Taigun/Skoda Kushaq as No.2 and Honda will tie for 3rd place with the Maruti-Toyota twins.

It is evident that Honda has learnt from its pricing missteps in the past. With the Elevate V manual expected to be around 15.5 L OTR Blr and the top end Elevate ZX CVT at around 19-19.5L, this will be very good value.

The base SV manual version could be the surprise with a bargain basement price.

Compare this with the last of the Jazz ZX CVTs which cost around 12L OTR Blr!

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Honda Elevate first look & observation in comparison to my 2022 City ZX

One thing in my personal opinion, is that the SUV has to be priced a segment lower than the City.

BHPian Dieseltuned recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hello all,

Today I visited the nearby Honda dealer in Bombay to have a first-hand look at the Elevate and below are my observations. Please note that I drive a 2022 ZX Honda City so all my pointers will be in comparison to my City.

Niceties:

  • The car looks muscular/youthful and should have a decent road presence.
  • The floating display looks well integrated and is a huge improvement over the City
  • The seats are well made and provide very good support
  • The lane watch and reverse camera quality seems to have improved over the City. (This is from a standstill car inside the showroom, the actual on-road preview might differ).
  • Doors, boot, bonnet sheet metal seems tougher than the City
  • The headlamps and fogs are both LED. need a test drive to see how they fare.
  • Tyres seemed of good size as compared to the car size, If I am not wrong they were 215/R55/17 inches. Filled the wheel well very well and gave a proportionate look to the car.
  • Ground clearance is good, not sure of the number but more than City
  • The LED tail lamps look sleek
  • wireless charging presents with wireless Apple Carplay and android auto
  • 6 airbags, Hill Assist, ABS, EBD and the whole plethora of safety features
  • SA mentioned 121 PS of power and 145 nm of torque
  • A nifty feature of turning off the USB charging with a button.

Nifty click buttons to operate the ACC and the head unit.

Misses:

  • Rear bench is smaller than the City.
  • The door switches are not illuminated
  • Boot space is smaller than the City. Not sure about the numbers in litres but just visual inspection this boot seems smaller than City.
  • Steering and Mid functions seem a straight lift from the City
  • The hump on the rear seat is very prominent, which will make the 3rd passenger uncomfortable over long drives
  • Panel gaps around the line where the headlamp meets the bonnet
  • Adaptive grid lines unavailable on reverse cam

I spent a short 15 minutes with the car and these are my observations. The showroom gave no idea about the prices OR when the test drives will be available.

Overall, Looks like a good car and being a Honda will be a no-nonsense, fill it, shut it, forget it car.

One thing in my personal opinion is that this should not be priced over OR at par with the City. Has to be a segment lower than the City.

This car could provide a good fight to the Nexon / Brezza if priced sensibly.

Honda is having a good response to the car, the SA mentioned they were in the showroom till 9 PM as the number of visitors was high. Today as well along with me there were 5-6 other prospective customers checking out the car (this is morning 11 am in Bombay on a working day).

Wishing Honda success with its launches.

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Honda Elevate: My initial impressions from a showroom in Hyderabad

The SUV has a good presence & its sunroof is exactly how it is on the Honda City.

BHPian arepalli99 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hi all,

Got an opportunity to see (no test drive yet) the Elevate (ZX top end, Phoenix Orange) in the flesh today @ Pride Honda, Hyderabad.

Nothing new was uncovered, all of the things discussed in the forum hold true.

Few observations in random order:

  1. There was no mention of the variant on the back.
  2. The panel gaps were consistent.
  3. The door closing was nice with a heavy thump like some might appreciate.
  4. The 2nd row can seat 2 comfortably. A third person will find it a little tight unless it’s a kid.
  5. The leg from in the 2nd row is pretty good.
  6. The headroom in the 2nd row might not be to the liking of 6+ footers.
  7. Front row, leg space seems smaller at first, but once you sit and adjust the seats, it’s fine.
  8. The vehicle has presence though, in a good way.
  9. The boot space is very good. Reminded me of the CRV.
  10. The steering felt good when you hold it.
  11. The elevated footrest for both the front and 2nd row was a good little touch.
  12. The armrest is good.
  13. 2 airbags only in the mid variant vs 6 in the top end is a bit of a letdown. 6 airbags are a must-have in Indian driving, I think.
  14. Weirdly, we could feel the overlap where the body paint meets the black floating roof colour.
  15. The engine bay was big. Given the small engine, it felt a little empty as if something was missing.
  16. The front grill is plasticky, to say the least. Honda could have made it a bit more sturdy.
  17. The wheel arches and side cladding were not body coloured. I would have expected that in the top variant.
  18. The sunroof is exactly how it’s in the Honda City.

They did not have the keys, so could not start the car/ check the ice/ speedometer consoles.

It’s for sure a little different in the looks department compared to other competitors. Not modern but not too run of the mill either.

It will all come down to the pricing. No insider info on the possible pricing yet.

They seem to be ready for deliveries from early September, depending on when you made a booking.

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Hyundai Exter: First impressions after a quick showroom visit

Tata Punch's design is a lot more cohesive and timeless. Exter isn't so bad, just not as good.

BHPian SlowDough recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I saw the Exter in person today. Test drives are not available yet. It was late in the evening and all the SAs had left, so I got just 5 minutes to see it, hence take these observations with a pinch of salt.

  1. Looks big enough for its price and class. I thought it might feel small visually, but it doesn't.
  2. Doors felt marginally heavier than Aura's. But the difference was not as big as that between Baleno and Fronx's door. I think Fronx's doors felt heavier with more thud on closing. I could be biased because I'd like to know that this was better built!
  3. Interiors were roomier than Venue's, but then again i10 itself is roomier than the Venue, and Exter felt even more roomier. Insane headroom.
  4. Sunroof is of a good size. Doesn't feel toy-sized.
  5. Rear seating is low - I felt tucked down relative to the window sill. But not uncomfortable. Legroom is less than Fronx, but the incline, seat base and headrests are much more comfortable. I am 5'10 in height.
  6. Front seating felt a bit low too, as the bonnet is huge and felt high as well as far due to slanting A-pillars. The steering was at its highest in the position that I tested, leaving some space for my thighs, so I think the seat was close to its highest position. But I need to check again.
  7. The model I sat in had sexy pedals, maybe due to AMT. Looked metallic. Need to check again.
  8. From the outside, the variant without dual-tone colours looked unproportionate from the waist up, due to the slanting A-pillars and upright C-pillar. The model with a dual-tone roof looked much better. Punch's design is a lot more cohesive and timeless. But Exter isn't so bad, just not as good.

In short, it feels much more value for money than Venue. My main concern is highway driveability and AMT smoothness. If the suspension is sorted, then it is a good way to save 3 to 4 lakhs over the Venue.

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Took delivery of the only Hyundai Tucson in town: Initial observations

I think Hyundai Tucson is a fantastic product, certainly much better than Jeep Compass, Meridian and VW Tiguan.

BHPian aseem23 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hi all, I belong to the rural part of Punjab and I would like to share my experience with Hyundai Tucson. This is the only Hyundai Tucson in my city and the car is certainly a head-turner.

Two weeks back, I bought Hyundai Tucson Signature Diesel AT AWD and so far my experience has been excellent. Ever since this car was launched, I was keenly looking to buy it, but I wanted to manage my finances before purchasing it. The car is mainly a city car with occasional highway runs.

Here is some information that might be helpful for you guys:

  1. On-Road Price: 37.70 lakhs
  2. City average: 11 km/l
  3. Highway Average: Did a short 250 km highway run, and I got an average of 17 km/l
  4. Current Odometer reading: 1150 kms
  5. Pros: Super silent diesel engine, enough power, plenty of features, ample space for 5 people & luggage, high on tech & features
  6. Cons: At the front dual-zone climate control but single blower control, At the rear no blower control, No Rear window blinds, No wireless Apple Carplay, Android Auto, Light colour interiors

I believe Hyundai needs to work on its marketing strategy. While buying this car, I often received feedback about spending Rs 38 lakhs on a Hyundai vehicle. The market perception about spending 20 lakhs+ on Hyundai is not positive, which I believe is wrong. I can't say about other Hyundai models, but for Tucson customers, Hyundai customer service was top-notch.

Also, Hyundai should not give stepmotherly treatment to Indian Tucson customers. In the foreign markets, you also have hybrid and plug-in hybrid variants of Tucson available which are lacking in India. There are so many accessories available too in the foreign market, whereas in India, I don't think there are any official Hyundai Tucson accessories available.

Overall, I think Hyundai Tucson is a fantastic product, certainly much better than Jeep Compass, Meridian and VW Tiguan.

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