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BHPian icem@n recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
A summary of my 5 and a half years with Tiago. Just completed 50k kms on my Dec 16 XT(o) petrol. Would have completed it couple of years back had the world not changed on March 2020. Has been a trouble free ownership mostly. ~60-65% of the time has been spent on B2B traffic with a good portion of that in 1st-2nd-break ritual. Have completed quite a few outstation trips that have included 700+ kms a day.
Have serviced the car at ASCs at prescribed intervals.
Issues faced:
Overall it has been a very good experience an will keep this until an EV comes in. This will be used more as a city runner now due to lack of ABS and highway cruiser will come in soon (search on). Definitely a bang for buck given that i had got it for just above 5 lakhs. I am fully satisfied and infact got my family to buy another one a year back.
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BHPian hajaar recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Hello all,
I will be moving my house to a place which is about 12km from its current location. Unfortunately, my childrens' school and wife's office are very close to my current house and it is not possible to move those.
It takes about 25 min (about 24k both ways) to drive from my new home to school to drop my kids there. Pickup will be through a known auto driver, so that is taken care of.
I have a Fortuner currently and I have no intention to sell it. But driving 24 km daily will ensure that my finances will take a hit and cause unnecessary pollution in addition. Public transportation is a no-no since it is hit or miss.
I thought that I could instead look at a cheap (maybe beater) hatchback to drop my kids at school and use my Fortuner for longer runs on highways. I am looking for an AT (so that my wife can drive) hatchback which is either electric or CNG or a petrol sipper at worst. Maintenance should be cheap. I am also ok with a second hand vehicle.
Suggestions welcome.
Here's what BHPian GForceEnjoyer had to say on the matter:
Your usage pattern seems to be perfect for a Tiago/Tigor EV, as you will be keeping your Fortuner around for the longer runs. Assuming that charging at home would not be an issue, you could go right ahead with it. I'd say a Nexon EV would be overkill; just my two cents.
Good luck with your decision.
Here's what BHPian bijims had to say on the matter:
If you want to go the EV route, You have one choice, The Tata Tiago EV, A good small car with enough space, a 4-star NCAP safety rating, and an adequate range for city commutes.
Automatic transmission CNG vehicles are not yet commonplace in India, so they are not an option.
If you are looking at petrol options, quite a few are available. The Honda Amaze, Maruti Baleno, Hyundai i20, and Honda Jazz are all great options to consider whether new or used.
As you haven't specified a budget, I have assumed a budget of around 10 lakhs as you can only consider EVs from this price range.
Here's what BHPian IshaanIan had to say on the matter:
A Brio T\torque Converter, Jazz/WR-V CVT and Micra CVT are the best second hand deals if a petrol automatic is being considered. They are all reliable being Japanese, and their automatic powertrains are also competent and reliable as well. if you don't mind going a step lower, the A-Star or even a Ritz automatic also makes for a good deal matching the Brio Jazz and Micra in all quality and reliability areas except in terms of autobox performance and competency (reliable but not the smoothest or the best by any means).
Here's what BHPian anjan_c2007 had to say on the matter:
After reading your post regarding concerns about driving 24 kms daily on the Fortuner to drop your children, I feel you can surely afford to microscopically dent your budget, keeping the fact on your mind that safety of the little ones is the prime concern for their parents. When you have spent Rs 40-50 L for buying a Fortuner, the budget etc should not bother you.
12+12 kms in any city or around any town will be treacherous as you will encounter morons and also road zombies of many hues on their two, three, four and six or six plus wheelers. A SUV is the best bet on such treacherous roads to keep us cocooned from these road zombies and morons.
As a second vehicle for your Mrs for her driving, nothing beats a Maruti 800 or next a Tata Nano, but unfortunately these have gone or are soon going into the RIP category.
Any good and best selling hatch from Maruti or Hyundai (they have models that have failed to sell that should be avoided) should be a preferable buy in your case.
Here's what BHPian Eco_boost had to say on the matter:
Keep first choice as Tiago Ev (8-12L on road with subsidies).
Maruti Celerio is a really good petrol car (6-8L on road).
Lower variants of Ignis.
Maruti’s should give you around 15-18 kmpl average very easily.
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BHPian lemedico recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
In continuation with my accessory upgrades for my Tata Tiago XZA+ AMT 2021, here is another one- an armrest installation DIY.
I have recently installed parcel tray strings for Rs. 8, you may read about it on this TBHP thread.
And this amazing mod to my Ciaz which broke the internet.
I bought the armrest from the Gomechanic website. I feel the pricing is absolutely unbeatable. In October 2022, I paid Rs. 1800 for the part with free shipping. There was a Rs. 200 discount for online payment on the original price of Rs. 2000. The SAME part on the Galio website was listed for Rs. 2800, and the SAME part as an official Tata accessory from the showroom was a bonkers Rs. 6000.
I got the delivery within a week, and multiple SMS + WhatsApp messages were sent regarding the order updates. The parcel was a two-box delivery, and well packaged with adequate bubble wrap.
It has a sliding cushion, however, it doesn't slide A LOT. And it opens up to reveal some storage with a rubberized mat. It is ok for your sunglasses, but without the carrying case. There are no colour options and was delivered in the full black shade. This matches the interior of the Tiago/Tigor.
NOTE: this exact part is suitable for the Tata Tigor as well. As per the manufacturer, it is suitable for models 2016 and onwards. That basically means the original and the facelift cars, regardless of the trim XE/XM/XZ/XZ+
YouTube link to the video of this accessory installation.
The company has its instructional video on YouTube for DIYers. That is what I had watched a few times to help me install it on mine.
This is needed from your toolbox:
The steps are straightforward if you follow the video or the instruction sheet in the box. A picture speaks 1000 words, a video perhaps a million. Do have a look at my video and the manufacturer’s video if you’re in the process of installation. For general reading pleasure, the steps are as follows:
Here are a few photos, thanks for reading:
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Tata Motors opened the order books for the Tiago EV on October 10. The company now claims to have received over 10,000 bookings for the electric hatchback in a single day.
The Tiago EV was launched at an introductory price of Rs. 8.49 lakh (ex-showroom). The carmaker has now decided to extend the introductory pricing for an additional 10,000 customers.
The Tiago EV is available in four variants: XE, XT, XZ+ and XZ+ Tech LUX. The car comes with two battery options - a 19.2 kWh battery pack offering a maximum range of 250 km and a 24 kWh battery offering 315 km (MIDC) on a single charge.
As per the company, production of the 24 kWh variants has been prioritized. Deliveries will commence in January 2023.
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BHPian lemedico recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Adding parcel tray strings to a Tiago for Rs. 8. This method would work for a lot of other cars as well.
We’re all aware of the frequent habit of feature deletions across the Tata motors range. So much, that I wonder if they are secretly inspiring Indians to be crafty with their hands and tools to bring such deletions back to their cars by DIY. I’m happy about that, an active brain is prevention against old age Alzheimer’s disease! When I’m not playing Sudoku or operating on patients in the operating theatre, I am busy with my cars- cleaning, maintaining, and upgrading features!
I recently acquired a pre-owned Tiago XZA+ 2021 make. This was a boon purchase as it's compact size and ease of ownership was a desperate need amongst the usual cars in my garage, which are far too long, or tall for my daily get around. Alas, on purchase, I immediately lost a few hair strands learning of the absent reverse parking sensors (on the top model!) and these measly parcel tray strings to lift it up when the boot opens.
I am a fan of transplant surgery. This concept works well outside of healthcare as well! You may have read my thread on grafting a Honda City’s auto-dimming IRVM into a Ciaz.
This was a proper achievement by myself, and a lot more DIYers who grabbed the part for Rs. 422. Unfortunately, the fanfare caused the part to shoot up to a price of Rs. 6000+ as of now.
Anyway, I needed hooks to attach to the boot, which would hang the loop of the parcel tray string. I didn’t even try going to Tata motors to find out if they had them, or even bother trying to explain to them what I need and why the hell I need it. Tata motors has the most nonchalant staff who are best left alone.
I have a few friendly faces at Maruti Suzuki through my work on their kidneys. I rang a chap up o’er there and told him what I needed. I was giving the example of a similar part from the Baleno but I quickly realised the stings on the Baleno hang directly off the rear windshield by metal clips. What I needed were hooks from a Swift. Luckily, being a rare part sale, they were available in stock for a price of Rs. 16 per hook. I wasn’t charged and handed them over complimentary! Perhaps they’ll stick it on the bill during the service for my wife’s Ciaz but for now, I’ve yet to spend any money.
There are rubber plugs covering the holes where you need to push in the hooks. It’s a simple task that needs no descriptive sentences. The hooks are a perfect fit. I wouldn’t try pulling them out, I think they will break.
For the strings, I bought 4 meters of ‘kala dhaaga’ or ‘maala dhaaga’ from a typical ladies' store which sells bangles and bindis. That cost me a total of Rs. 8 and he even gave me two large plastic balls with a central tunnel, which are needed as described later on.
At home, I divided the string into two parts of 2 meters each, then further divided each string into 3 equal lengths. These 3 lengths need to be braided, as do girls with their hair. YouTube to the rescue! It’s a not too difficult task for a newbie, but a swift one for the ladies who do so to their hair regularly. I braided one, and my wife did the other.
With the braids complete, I threaded the plastic ball to the far end. This would act like a washer against the parcel tray. You could also do without it and instead tie a lot of knots at one end to make it bulky, and that would in turn stop it from slipping off the hole made in the parcel tray.
Whack out the parcel tray and drill a hole at two near corners. Try using a small drill bit. Perhaps 3-4mm. There is no need to make a large hole. If your thread is smooth(reshami), it won’t snag on opening or closing the boot. All that you need to do now is place the braided strings through the holes and then tie a loop around the newly installed hooks at the top end.
Tie it up at your desired height at which you’d like the parcel tray to be lifted when you open the boot. I tried it at multiple levels, and it didn’t snag at any. You may need to put some fevi kwik or melt the frayed ends on both sides. I haven't trimmed the excess yet, I may need it if I choose to alter the lift height again.
And voila, the job is done! A few pictures are attached for better understanding. All in all, I spent Rs. 8. However, with the cost of the hooks, some fevi-kwik, and those two plastic balls, this is no more than Rs. 50 TOTAL. Boodmo has parcel tray strings for the Altroz at Rs 140 per string, shipping extra! What a waste. Absolutely save those rupees and buy yourself, or your car a respective pint of ethanol!
I am working on more small changes and upgrades to the Tiago. Next up are atmosphere lights (already bought from Amazon for Rs. 323. Offline accessories shop wanted Rs. 1500), reverse parking sensors( Bought from Amazon Rs. 500. Offline Rs. 1100), front armrest (Bought from Gomechanic.com Rs. 1836. Tata wants Rs. 6000, Galio spare parts online wants Rs. 2830). I’ll post them as they are completed. Thanks
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BHPian 07CR recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
My friend is looking to buy his first car in the family. Looking at my interest in cars, he turned towards me for the advice. He/his family are a complete newbie towards cars.
Set of requirements:
Options:
He was apprehensive of preowned cars, but now that I have suggested him for the same, he is now thinking on the same lines.
Quoted price for Amaze and Ignis are 5.75 L and 6 L (negotiable) respectively. Both are single owner cars. Have checked the Amaze and Ignis, and both appear to be in great condition. The go ahead will be given only if both cars get a green signal from Honda and Maruti service dealership.
Considering he is extremely tight on budget, I believe the preowned options (especially Amaze) make more sense, however, would like your opinions, considering this is his first car in the family.
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
First car and clearly a close friend. Tell him to go for a new car. Reasons = if the used car turns out to be troublesome, he will be upset with you. New car is new car, especially when it's the first car of the family and hence, something that will bring immense pride & joy.
The Tiago CNG is one of the best implemented CNG systems I have seen. Between this and a used Amaze, better he goes for a new Tiago CNG.
Keeping his requirements in mind, he should also consider a new Maruti hatchback, something like a WagonR or an Ignis.
Here's what BHPian AZT had to say on the matter:
Just a heads up on the recent CNG price hike news. Your friend needs to realize if a yearly 10k run justifies buying a CNG and the decreased boot space, lining up at pumps etc. that comes with it.
Here's what BHPian Chetan_Rao had to say on the matter:
The Wagon R 1.2 would be a good addition to the choices list. Peppy, spacious, frugal, effortless to drive, fits the budget. It's a 'big' car in a small car form factor, and for small car money. I've recently been driving my dad's Wagon R 1.2 around town a fair bit and also drove it 1600 kms on a highway run. It's fantastic for what it is.
If your friend would prefer something a little less spacious but more contemporarily styled, look at the Ignis.
I'd avoid compact CNG hatchbacks as family cars, the boot is practically unusable.
Here's what BHPian sumeethaldankar had to say on the matter:
Wagon R/Celerio should be the choices he should be looking at. For a first car I would prefer something like a hatchback since he is complete newbie. A used car will come with its issues like eg was the car in a accident? or was it flood affected? etc. A new fresh car is the best option. Let him feel the new car smell rather than bear the soiled interiors of a used car.
Good luck.
Here's what BHPian sidpunjabi had to say on the matter:
My vote is for a new car, especially since you've mentioned that he and his family are newbies towards cars.
Instead of specifying a particular make/model, I would like to add another point of view:
I'm going to assume that the used car is out of OEM warranty. So at some point, he's going to need to head to a mechanic / FNG since older / used cars usually have a lower tolerance level to the regular abuse faced on our roads vs. their new-from-factory counterparts. Since it's the first car in the family, even the smallest dent/ scratch/ breakdown can feel monumental.
You never forget your first
Add to it the hunt for a. FNG, which could be a bit daunting for him at first (and that's assuming the mechanic doesn't take him for a ride - pun intended).
With new cars and extended warranties, there's that little peace of mind since ASCs usually don't mess with under-warranty cars. He can use this time to research on his car, find good FNGs and mechanics and just get better acquainted with the whole processes of taking care of his baby.
In the long run, a new car will be a win.
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Tata Motors has announced that the bookings for the Tiago EV will open on October 10, 2022. Customers can book the car by paying a token amount of Rs 21,000 at any Tata Motors dealership or online.
The Tiago EV will be on display across leading malls in major cities this month. Test drives will be available from later December and deliveries will commence in January 2023.
The Tiago EV is available in four variants: XE, XT, XZ+ and XZ+ Tech LUX, with prices starting at Rs 8.49 lakh (ex-showroom). The electric hatchback comes with two battery options - a 19.2 kWh battery pack offering a maximum range of 250 km and a 24 kWh battery offering 315 km (MIDC) on a single charge.
According to Tata, production of the 24 kWh variants has been prioritized. The delivery date will depend on the time and date of booking as well as the variant and colour chosen.
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Over the past couple of years, Tata Motors has been on a roll with its electric vehicles. A market share of 89% and more than 45,000 EVs on the road are a testament to that statement. While a big chunk of those sales comes from the Nexon EV, the Tigor EV is gaining ground too. After the launch of the Tigor EV last year, everyone expected the Tiago EV to follow closely. However, Tata Motors has taken its time to launch the electric version of the hatchback. During this time, they've tried to make sure that the Tiago EV feels like an individual product in itself and not just another variant or the hatchback version of the Tigor EV. There are quite a few changes that differentiate the Tiago EV from the regular Tiago and the Tigor EV.
The Tiago EV is offered with two battery pack options - 1. 'Medium Range' with a 19.2 kWh battery and a claimed range of 250 km and 2. 'Long Range' with a 24 kWh battery and a claimed range of 315 km. The Medium Range Tiago EV gets a motor that puts out 60 BHP and 110 Nm, while the Long Range variant is powered by a motor producing 74 BHP and 114 Nm. Tata is prioritising the production of the 24kWh battery pack variants to match customer expectations at the time of delivery. There are 4 variants on offer - XE, XT, XZ+ and XZ+ Tech Lux with prices starting at Rs. 8.49 lakh (click here for the detailed price list). There are 5 colour options to choose from - Teal Blue, Daytona Grey, Tropical Mist, Pristine White and Midnight Plum.
You can download the 2022 Tata Tiago EV brochure here.
Front end is identical to the Tigor EV except for the grille, which is blacked out:
No design changes at the rear apart from the missing tailpipe:
The Tiago EV measures 3,769 mm in length, 1,677 mm in width and 1,536 mm in height and has a wheelbase of 2,400 mm. The EV is 4 mm longer than the regular Tiago:
Changes have been made to the suspension setup to integrate the battery and motor into the platform. While the exact ground clearance hasn't been revealed, it appears similar to the regular Tiago (170 mm):
In profile, the 14-inch wheels look proportionate for the size of the car:
Halogen projector headlamps are offered on the XZ+ and XZ+ Tech Lux variants of the Long Range variant:
LED DRLs and foglamps are placed on the bumper. Fog lamps get blue accents around them:
The '.EV' badge on the grille doesn't feel like it will age well. The 'EV' badge on the Tigor looked better (reference image):
Sad to see that there's no underbody protection here. Being an EV, we would've expected Tata to make an exception and provide underbody protection, just for the additional peace of mind:
Another '.EV' badge on the fender. Check out the extra metallic shimmer of this 'Teal Blue' paint shade. The shimmer looks excessive under the spotlight, but should be normal under sunlight:
All door handles get nice piano black inserts:
Roof-coloured ORVMs look good. These come with the auto-fold feature:
No 15-inch alloys here like the regular Tiago. Instead, you get these 14-inch steel wheels with 'Hyperstyle' wheel covers and 175/65 section tyres:
Drum brakes at the rear:
Tata needs to tighten up on quality control. The rear door handle was misaligned on the display car:
Contrast black roof is offered only on the top-end XZ+ Tech Lux variant:
Tail-lamp cluster is the same as the regular Tiago:
'TIAGO.EV' lettering has a different font compared to the regular Tiago. This one looks more classy. The placement of the reversing camera and boot release is just not ergonomic. You'll be brushing your hand against the camera while opening the hatch and the probability of it getting damaged in a collision is high:
Look underneath and you will see the battery pack. The Tiago EV gets rear twist beam suspension with coil spring mounted on hydraulic shock absorbers:
High-voltage cables should've been covered up properly. Leaving them exposed is a bit disconcerting:
Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor puts out 74 BHP & 114 Nm of torque. In comparison, the Tigor EV puts out 170 Nm of torque:
Cheap pipe leading to the washer fluid tank:
This 7.2 kW AC fast charger will charge the car from 10-100% in 3.6 hours. You can also save Rs. 50,000 and go for a 3.3 kW AC charger that will take 6.4 hours for charging from 10% to 100%. You always have the cheapest and the best option of charging from a 15A wall socket which takes 8.7 hours (10-100%). While on the road, you have the option of a DC fast charger which takes 57 minutes (50kW) to charge from 10-80%:
Battery pack gets the IP67 rating (water and dust-resistant). You also get 8 years / 1,60,000 km warranty for the battery and the motor. The standard warranty of the car is 3 years / 1,25,000 km. We suggest you definitely go for the maximum extended warranty option:
Here's the car in the 'Tropical Mist' paint shade...
...and the 'Midnight Plum' paint shade, which was introduced with the Tiago CNG:
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Tata Motors has released yet another teaser of the upcoming Tiago EV. The latest video partially reveals the car’s exterior design.
The Tiago EV will get a blanked-off front grille with the tri-arrow pattern on the sides and an ‘EV’ badge. The car will be equipped with projector headlamps along with features such as multi-mode regen, cruise control and a 7-inch touchscreen infotainment system; among others.
The Tiago EV is expected to use Tata’s Ziptron electric powertrain, featuring the same electric motor as on the Tigor EV. The latter comes with an electric motor that produces 74 BHP and 170 Nm. It is powered by a 26 kWh battery pack that has an ARAI-certified range of 306 km.
The Tiago EV will be launched in the Indian market on September 28, 2022.
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Tata Motors has released a new teaser of the upcoming Tiago EV. The latest image confirms that the car will come connected car tech.
The Tiago EV will be offered a Smartwatch with Tata’s ZConnect features along with multi-mode regeneration and cruise control. The electric hatchback will also get a 7-inch touchscreen infotainment system with Android Auto & Apple CarPlay and automatic climate control; among other features.
The Tiago EV is expected to use Tata’s Ziptron electric powertrain, featuring the same electric motor as on the Tigor EV. The latter comes with an electric motor that produces 74 BHP and 170 Nm. It is powered by a 26 kWh battery pack that has an ARAI-certified range of 306 km.
The Tata Tiago EV will be the brand's most affordable all-electric model. It is set to make its debut on September 28, 2022.