Re: Renault Kwid : Official Review Quote:
Originally Posted by Udit It is the most pricey A segment car, alto 800 costs a lakh lesser than it. |
I do not see a lakh difference here. Compare variant-to-variant, not base model vs top model to arrive at a lakh figure. Quote:
Still, how one can say that Renault implicated that reinforcement in their production variants too ? what if that was only for that crash test specific car ? what if the car crashes on the passenger side ?
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Then how can one say every vehicle on the road is generating as much bhp as claimed in their brochures, wheel or shaft? Then how can you say mass market vehicles are not getting watered down in their production runs? Are you going to take apart all panels & ensure the structure confirms to the blueprint it's based on? No. These are certain things we blindly trust the manufacturer with. The V4 Kwid which got tested was reportedly taken from the current production batch. Quote:
Not most. But many of the cars perform much better e.g. Polo, Etios, figo, Zest etc. Even the new gen global models of Suzuki cars scored fair in crash tests.
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" global models of Suzuki cars". That should answer the part. Quote:
e.g. Polo, Etios, figo, Zest etc
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Really? Expecting Kwid or any A-seg model to have similar levels of safety to pricier models several segments above, in a country where no relevant regulations exist? Kwid's competiton(Alto, Eon) have either not been crash tested or failed to score even 1* in any variant so far, and they are sold at not much less than the Kwid. Again, wouldn't mind to be proven wrong here. Quote:
I don't agree on this point. Maruti Suzuki cars which fall in 4-5 lakh price bracket (i.e. Celerio and Wagon R) are better built as compared to kwid. They offer better safety options (dual airbags with ABS) and cost cutting in these cars is not as much as in Kwid (3 lug nuts, plastic oil sump, plastic engine cover, no motor for headlamp leveling, single wiper etc.)
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If the NCAP says "unstable structure" or advise against further loading, then ABS & airbags could help only so much once hit. I don't know how many of these models you talk of sport a stable structure in its Indian version. Global versions of the same are irrelevant to us, sadly.
3 lug nuts holding perfect so far, 4 lug nuts desirable but the engineers didn't feel the need of it for the performance curve of the car they designed. I won't complain. I don't like the plastic sump but it works & i do drive through ruts. Plastic engine cover yet to show any signs of melting. No motor for lamp leveling, two less parts to replace & the cable works fine. Single wiper works for the driver but not so much for the passenger but does its job.
I'm forced to overlook these "shortcomings" considering the ride quality it gives for the 4.2lacs i paid for the package. Pay a lac more & for sure i will get the next level package but i don't need it since the current one works well for its intended use. So i saved almost a lac & my purchase is serving me well so far. Quote:
I don't have any personal grudge for any product. All I want to say is Kwid has lost its USP (VFM quotient). It is pricey for its segment. And, that is reflected in the recent sales charts.
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Yes with the Tiago in, the VFM part is much narrowed. There was no Tiago when Kwid came out but no point in lowering Kwid prices now. Somewhere on TBHP, it's also said Tata isn't making much or any from their new models for the sake of market share. Kwid RXL is still VFM for those who don't care for safety, & there are a lot of them. Carwale says it is 80k less than its "next segment" competition. But yeah RxT(O) is much less VFM in its current format.
Last edited by SandyX : 26th July 2017 at 17:28.
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