Maruti Suzuki Gypsy - Queries

Sutripta · 17th October 2018, 10:31

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Originally Posted by keroo1099

Inherited this 86 Gypsy, and this is what it has. Looked for the make on the compressor but couldn't find one. Hope it helps.

Lovely. Do you still have the screen behind the rear seat? Does pushing the temp control lever towards the hot side still cut of the compressor, while on the cold side seem to have absolutely no effect?

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Originally Posted by starter

The OE compressor in the earlier Suzuki used to be from a company called Subros.
I have heard that the Sanden 505 puts lesser load than the 507 which is commonly used.
Cheers,
Deepak

I think Subros came later, and are now the primary supplier to Maruti. The SS80 and the van both came with Sanden systems. Both pretty good, and well engineered.

In any case, Maruti now has a mix and match policy.

The 505, having lower displacement than the 507, will put lesser load.

One other thing I must add. The Gypsy with factory fitted AC did not have any overheating problems. At least mine did not.

@Turbanator: What chances you'll fly down to Bangalore to see Keroo's setup?

Regards
Sutripta

keroo1099 · 17th October 2018, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Sutripta

Lovely. Do you still have the screen behind the rear seat? Does pushing the temp control lever towards the hot side still cut of the compressor, while on the cold side seem to have absolutely no effect?

Yes, the original screen behind the seat is neatly rolled up.

The AC needs to be topped up with gas, so don't know about the compressor cutoff.

@Turbanator : Most welcome to come and see it anytime.

Sutripta · 17th October 2018, 11:27

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Originally Posted by keroo1099

The AC needs to be topped up with gas

That is likely to be a major problem now.

Regards
Sutripta

aim120 · 17th October 2018, 13:11

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Originally Posted by keroo1099

Inherited this 86 Gypsy, and this is what it has. Looked for the make on the compressor but couldn't find one. Hope it helps.

Can you post a picture taken above the left parcel tray or near the lower air vent holes.
If its a factory fitted one, it should have a factory fitted Evaporator coil.
The original factory fitted compressor was from Nippon Denso.

keroo1099 · 18th October 2018, 07:50

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Originally Posted by aim120

Can you post a picture taken above the left parcel tray or near the lower air vent holes.
If its a factory fitted one, it should have a factory fitted Evaporator coil.
The original factory fitted compressor was from Nippon Denso.

Here you go, hope this is what you expected. The unit looks original from what I can see, but still can't find any markings on make.

Sutripta · 18th October 2018, 09:26

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Originally Posted by aim120

If its a factory fitted one, it should have a factory fitted Evaporator coil.

Since he has the rear screen, reasonably certain it is OE.

Regards
Sutripta

aditbelw · 18th October 2018, 11:07

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Originally Posted by antihero

No there is no North India specific version for any Maruti model including the Gypsy. So I'm assuming @turbanator is mistaken. Unless the heater was an aftermarket fitting.

On a positive note @aroy it's good to hear that a heater was an option on the m800. I will try contacting some workshops to see if the same can be fitted to an MG410W

I Second that! Gypsy never came with region specific heater installed. We have a 2017 King which was bought for the reasons shown in attached picture. The blower however is dependant on the engine heat and if the engine does get warm enough in these conditions then it blows the hot air from the engine compartment to the cabin. There are some after market coil heaters available in Kumaon region of Himalayas for Gypsy but never gave it shot as this car is only taken our during the Monsoons and rest of the time it's just parked in insulated garages.

aim120 · 18th October 2018, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Sutripta

Since he has the rear screen, reasonably certain it is OE.

Regards
Sutripta

I knew it was a OE upon seeing the picture of the compressor. That picture of the Evaporator box is the first known picture of it on Team Bhp forum or other Indian forums. Since most only have aftermarket ones.

Will that be that hard to make a similar design, instead of the ugly aftermarket ones. They (after market industry) could design a evaporator coil like the OE one, I am sure there will be lots of takers for it.

Sutripta · 19th October 2018, 18:46

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Originally Posted by aim120

If its a factory fitted one, it should have a factory fitted Evaporator coil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aim120

I knew it was a OE upon seeing the picture of the compressor.

OK. The 'if' confused me!

Regards
Sutripta

Leoshashi · 19th October 2018, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Sutripta

The system was Sanden, but the compressor was not the usual Sanden 50x.
Must have had a part #. Sashi to the rescue.

Hey Guys,

I am not sure if it was a Sanden or not, but it was SGP. And these are the part numbers of compressors which came in Old Gypsies:

95200-80060
95200-80080

These were the main two root part numbers. Two for probably different makes.

These parts have been discontinued since 1995. And are so obsolete that Maruti's system has no reference of these products.

Sutripta · 19th October 2018, 21:37

^^^
Thanks. What about the heater? Does the radiator have the same part #?
IIRC, the brochure of the time listed both AC and heater. But the dealer would not accept an order for one with a heater, saying the system did not show any such option.

Regards
Sutripta

aim120 · 19th October 2018, 22:05

It was a Nippon Denso alright. The below pictures from a Suzuki SJ410 abroad. They look the same as the ones posted by keroo1099 a page back.
Edit: confirmed model 10P08E suitable for all Suzuki vehicles.

Leoshashi · 19th October 2018, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Sutripta

IIRC, the brochure of the time listed both AC and heater. But the dealer would not accept an order for one with a heater, saying the system did not show any such option.

Regards
Sutripta

Will try to find out about those part numbers too. Meanwhile, you'd love to checkout the brochure pics of old Gypsy here : https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-v...ml#post4405532 (Maruti Gypsy Pictures)

Regards,
Shashi

Raul258 · 20th October 2018, 08:00

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Originally Posted by suzuki san

Hi Raul,
What is the latest with the A.C. and overheating issue? Have you managed to get is resolved?
I am thinking of buying a Gypsy again but after hearing these "over-heating" stories from a few people, am not so sure now. I would have thought that someone would have come up with a fix by now.
Regards,
SS

Hi San,
The overheating stopped after I moved the condenser down. The temperature now goes upto the halfway mark at the maximum. However, the cooling has noticeably reduced during highway runs but its something I can live with. I also did a roof lining with foam which reduces the heat dissipation. Looks good too.

I also managed to hit a stone during my Ladakh trip this year and leaked the ac gas.

shankar.balan · 28th October 2018, 20:29

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Originally Posted by antihero

I live in the Himalayas and own a 410w circa 1996. With the winters approaching and me getting old I was wondering if it's possible to fit a heater (for slightly warm air) that works with the inbuilt blower mechanism? Vehicles from this era like the Maruti 800 and the Maruti van did have this piece of kit inbuilt (non AC models). Any ideas / links?

P.S. I do not have the need for an ac. One the 410w is underpowered as it is and Two it doesn't get warm enough where I live.

Wow!
You’re living my dream. Hills. Mountains. Driving an old tough Gypsy. The sound of cow bells at dusk.
All I would need are a couple of doggies or even just one, all my lovely books, some music and an Internet connection.
Life would be good. I can write, read, eat and sleep.
Please put out pics of your Gypsy!

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Sutripta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,668 Thanked: 6,217 Times	Re: Maruti Suzuki Gypsy - Queries ^^^ Thanks. What about the heater? Does the radiator have the same part #? IIRC, the brochure of the time listed both AC and heater. But the dealer would not accept an order for one with a heater, saying the system did not show any such option. Regards Sutripta
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aim120 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: bangalore Posts: 788 Thanked: 2,499 Times Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Re: Maruti Suzuki Gypsy - Queries It was a Nippon Denso alright. The below pictures from a Suzuki SJ410 abroad. They look the same as the ones posted by keroo1099 a page back. Edit: confirmed model 10P08E suitable for all Suzuki vehicles. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by aim120 : 19th October 2018 at 22:19.
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