Dream comes true - Gypsy comes home

Jaggu · 1st June 2010, 22:20

It can be done but its lil tricky and would be better if you figure out the nuts and bolts earlier and carry the tools including WD40 for stuck screws and nut/bolts.

Desmosedici · 2nd June 2010, 00:04

Thanks Jaggu,

I'll check this thing out.

CHeers.

Desmosedici · 2nd June 2010, 19:55

Guys, need some help.

The Gypsy footwells can fit a 6" speakers properly but not a 6.5" as on the right side the fuse box is set and the 6.5" speaker will touch the fuse box.

Most speakers nowadays are coming in the 6.5" size.

Can the gurus help,

1 - Can the fusebox be shifted, is it a tedious process, is it advisable.
2 - Can you suggest good quality 6" round speakers to do duty on an Alpine HU.
I am told that Sony Speakers are good. I need good bass from the speakers.

Thanks.
Raj

starter · 2nd June 2010, 22:02

Hey Raj,
I am posting a picture of my Gypsy with the speakers.
Have a look at this. Maybe it gives you some ideas.

Dream comes true - Gypsy comes home-maruti_gypsy_12.jpg

I tried placing the speakers near the foot well, but the effect isn't all that great.
I have pioneer speakers and they are decent.
Cheers,
Deepak

Jaggu · 2nd June 2010, 22:09

Stick to JBL or Pio they give the best vfm sound, Sony in my opinion really suckz.

Desmosedici · 2nd June 2010, 23:53

Thanks Deepak and Jaggu.

Deepak, i cant put my speakers there as i will be removing the hardtop soon (i hate the HT), so at the moment speakers will have to go near the footwell. though i agree that the sound comes a little different when fitted there.

I heard the alpine speakers but not so impressive. I have asked for JBLs.

I also plan to get 2 4 inch speakers and try to fit those below the front seats with a box, that should give some better sound, i think.

and deepak, how come your hardtop doesnt have any cushioning on the inside.

ladak.imran · 3rd June 2010, 04:20

Raj, Don't get a box for speakers under front seats.
Instead, see if you can get them placed in the B pillars.. Only issue with this, might be the fact that you're cutting into a little metal.

I've heard Ibrahims speakers in the B pillar, and for some reason they sound very nice.

I have a box behind the front seats, but I'm going to chuck it, and shift to the pillar.

An added advantage of pillar, is that our speakers will be much more safer from water n dust, etc..

starter · 3rd June 2010, 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

and deepak, how come your hardtop doesnt have any cushioning on the inside.

Desmo,
I don't think the hard top comes with any cushioning/insulation.
If your gypsy comes with some insulation, it must be done by the previous owner.
But, i completely agree with you on the hard top. I shall also get rid of it, someday!

Cheers,
Deepak

gsferrari · 3rd June 2010, 10:27

Raj - my Gypsy also has no cushioning on the inside. Only in the front cabin I added 10mm heatlon to the roof because the rear has insulation between two layers of GRP.

Best location for front speakers is the stock cutouts near the feet. Sound is really good from there. Rear speakers are overrated...how many of you listen to a stereo with speakers behind you? Just get good quality front speakers, get them fitted well. Preferably with a mid-range / tweeter on the dash. If you want you can get an under-seat woofer.

KSM-Vtec · 3rd June 2010, 11:08

Well in my opinion putting speakers in the front in the cut out near the feet is not a good idea as a lot of water passes from there

(during the rain, OTR etc.)

Well if you are planning to take the HT off then you will need speakers at the back...your friends will kill you otherwise...btw life changes after the top is off. I am sure i will see often you at carters once the top is off.

The best way to do it is to get an extended soft top for the front and put the speakers and woofer behind the front seats. Exactly like what devang has done.

gsferrari · 3rd June 2010, 14:16

Yup...I've sealed off the vents on the front of my Gypsy and I haven't been through a monsoon yet so it will be interesting to see where the leaks are and if I am going to need a boat inside my Gypsy

Desmosedici · 3rd June 2010, 20:01

Thanks Guys for the suggestions.

Deepak - Hardtop sucks and makes the vehicle look like an ambulance

Rain or no rain, the moment i get a chance, i'll chuck it.

Imran Macchi - Good idea about the B Pillars. I'll try that out.

GS - No woofer shoofer for me. i dont like that extra thumping sound.
and i dont think geoff will leak. He is new maan.

Kaushik - I have sealed the bonnet vents (like you told me last time)with a tape at the moment. that has prevented all the small leaves coming in when i switch on the blower.

what i plan is having 2 6" (pio, jbl or sony) at the front near footwell.

plan to have 2 4" on the B Pillar as Imran suggested (i was thinking of below the seats but this i think is a better idea)

one thing about the alpine is, you cant change radio stations via remote and has very basic bass and treble settings. Apart from that its VFM.

Cheers,
Raj

KSM-Vtec · 4th June 2010, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

what i plan is having 2 6" (pio, jbl or sony) at the front near footwell.

plan to have 2 4" on the B Pillar as Imran suggested (i was thinking of below the seats but this i think is a better idea)

one thing about the alpine is, you cant change radio stations via remote and has very basic bass and treble settings. Apart from that its VFM.

Cheers,
Raj

Well i would suggest you hang on for a few days, let it rain and see if the water comes in. The vent is not the only cause.

And ya i had used the chinese HU which had USB & radio. worked well for me. Was for 1k so you dont feel very bad even it its stolen...lol

Plz dont buy Sony...

ladak.imran · 5th June 2010, 15:41

I think that buying a chinese HU is one of the worst things you can do with your money.
The sound quality is terrible, and I just couldn't bring myself to use it!

I finally installed a pioneer HU with usb, cd, aux in and fm....
As compared to the chinese one, sound quality is incredible...

Raj, make sure you listen to the chinese hu as well as a regular hu before purchasing... and if you're buying a hu with only CD, be prepared for a LOT of skipping!

gsferrari · 5th June 2010, 16:04

Rs.300 head units rock!!!

Water damage = no problem
Theft = no problem
Hard impacts = no problem...only USB,SD memory cards and FM!

in any case sound quality is passable and I hear the exhaust of my Gypsy over all else so it doesn't really matter.

1st June 2010, 22:20	#181
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	It can be done but its lil tricky and would be better if you figure out the nuts and bolts earlier and carry the tools including WD40 for stuck screws and nut/bolts.
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2nd June 2010, 00:04	#182
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,484 Thanked: 586 Times View My Garage	Thanks Jaggu, I'll check this thing out. CHeers.
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2nd June 2010, 19:55	#183
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,484 Thanked: 586 Times View My Garage	Guys, need some help. The Gypsy footwells can fit a 6" speakers properly but not a 6.5" as on the right side the fuse box is set and the 6.5" speaker will touch the fuse box. Most speakers nowadays are coming in the 6.5" size. Can the gurus help, 1 - Can the fusebox be shifted, is it a tedious process, is it advisable. 2 - Can you suggest good quality 6" round speakers to do duty on an Alpine HU. I am told that Sony Speakers are good. I need good bass from the speakers. Thanks. Raj
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2nd June 2010, 22:02	#184
starter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,127 Thanked: 903 Times	Hey Raj, I am posting a picture of my Gypsy with the speakers. Have a look at this. Maybe it gives you some ideas. I tried placing the speakers near the foot well, but the effect isn't all that great. I have pioneer speakers and they are decent. Cheers, Deepak
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2nd June 2010, 22:09	#185
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Stick to JBL or Pio they give the best vfm sound, Sony in my opinion really suckz.
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2nd June 2010, 23:53	#186
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,484 Thanked: 586 Times View My Garage	Thanks Deepak and Jaggu. Deepak, i cant put my speakers there as i will be removing the hardtop soon (i hate the HT), so at the moment speakers will have to go near the footwell. though i agree that the sound comes a little different when fitted there. I heard the alpine speakers but not so impressive. I have asked for JBLs. I also plan to get 2 4 inch speakers and try to fit those below the front seats with a box, that should give some better sound, i think. and deepak, how come your hardtop doesnt have any cushioning on the inside. Last edited by Desmosedici : 2nd June 2010 at 23:55.
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3rd June 2010, 04:20	#187
ladak.imran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 294 Thanked: 6 Times	Raj, Don't get a box for speakers under front seats. Instead, see if you can get them placed in the B pillars.. Only issue with this, might be the fact that you're cutting into a little metal. I've heard Ibrahims speakers in the B pillar, and for some reason they sound very nice. I have a box behind the front seats, but I'm going to chuck it, and shift to the pillar. An added advantage of pillar, is that our speakers will be much more safer from water n dust, etc..
	() Thanks

3rd June 2010, 10:27	#189
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,809 Times	Raj - my Gypsy also has no cushioning on the inside. Only in the front cabin I added 10mm heatlon to the roof because the rear has insulation between two layers of GRP. Best location for front speakers is the stock cutouts near the feet. Sound is really good from there. Rear speakers are overrated...how many of you listen to a stereo with speakers behind you? Just get good quality front speakers, get them fitted well. Preferably with a mid-range / tweeter on the dash. If you want you can get an under-seat woofer.
	() Thanks

3rd June 2010, 11:08	#190
KSM-Vtec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MH-02-India-Bombay-Bandra Posts: 1,562 Thanked: 446 Times View My Garage	Well in my opinion putting speakers in the front in the cut out near the feet is not a good idea as a lot of water passes from there(during the rain, OTR etc.) Well if you are planning to take the HT off then you will need speakers at the back...your friends will kill you otherwise...btw life changes after the top is off. I am sure i will see often you at carters once the top is off. The best way to do it is to get an extended soft top for the front and put the speakers and woofer behind the front seats. Exactly like what devang has done.
	() Thanks

3rd June 2010, 14:16	#191
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,809 Times	Yup...I've sealed off the vents on the front of my Gypsy and I haven't been through a monsoon yet so it will be interesting to see where the leaks are and if I am going to need a boat inside my Gypsy
	() Thanks

3rd June 2010, 20:01	#192
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,484 Thanked: 586 Times View My Garage	Thanks Guys for the suggestions. Deepak - Hardtop sucks and makes the vehicle look like an ambulance Rain or no rain, the moment i get a chance, i'll chuck it. Imran Macchi - Good idea about the B Pillars. I'll try that out. GS - No woofer shoofer for me. i dont like that extra thumping sound. and i dont think geoff will leak. He is new maan. Kaushik - I have sealed the bonnet vents (like you told me last time)with a tape at the moment. that has prevented all the small leaves coming in when i switch on the blower. what i plan is having 2 6" (pio, jbl or sony) at the front near footwell. plan to have 2 4" on the B Pillar as Imran suggested (i was thinking of below the seats but this i think is a better idea) one thing about the alpine is, you cant change radio stations via remote and has very basic bass and treble settings. Apart from that its VFM. Cheers, Raj
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5th June 2010, 15:41	#194
ladak.imran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 294 Thanked: 6 Times	I think that buying a chinese HU is one of the worst things you can do with your money. The sound quality is terrible, and I just couldn't bring myself to use it! I finally installed a pioneer HU with usb, cd, aux in and fm.... As compared to the chinese one, sound quality is incredible... Raj, make sure you listen to the chinese hu as well as a regular hu before purchasing... and if you're buying a hu with only CD, be prepared for a LOT of skipping!
	() Thanks

5th June 2010, 16:04	#195
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,809 Times	Rs.300 head units rock!!! Water damage = no problem Theft = no problem Hard impacts = no problem...only USB,SD memory cards and FM! in any case sound quality is passable and I hear the exhaust of my Gypsy over all else so it doesn't really matter.
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