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Originally Posted by trammway That is too harsh!!
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Now tell me how is my OverDrive setup feedback going to help this thread in anyway, If I understand you were clearly asking everyone to post comments on only Thar or Gypsy mode. No OffTopic |
It was a pleasure talking to you on Friday.
Well the relevance of overdrive is that i can take DwArF on longer drives and make this thread not relevant
I will research on your advice and will keep you updated.
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Originally Posted by svsantosh If only a 2nd vehicle, max 5-7K Kms a year - i would go for a new gypsy.
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Will come up with more... |
Thanks man, yes the potential of mods is much more on a Gypsy and that is a big plus in the longer run.
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Originally Posted by GTO Want my honest advice? Think with your heart, then with your head, and you'll only have one answer : RETAIN THE CJ3B!
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P.S. For the record, I am putting my money where my mouth is. The Classic in my garage ain't making way for any Thar. |
I dont think ill be able to sell DwArF without injury from you. So for the time being, DwArF stays, even if there is a new purchase.
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Originally Posted by JeepCaptain Jokes apart.. as GTO said.. listen to your heart and go with what it says!! |
Heart or Head, still confused!
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Originally Posted by theMAG 1. The ~70K price difference you've calculated is not tangible for the usability offered by the diesel Thar over the petrol Gypsy, especially considering the long-term keep you've foreseen. |
No mag, for a low mileage vehicle, diesel vs petrol does not work out. Look at what Santhosh has mentioned.
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Originally Posted by xingamazon All you have to do is wait for Thar to be a success and not buy it. I can bet MSIL would be looking at the Thar launch with close watch.
Just if the Thar becomes a success expect MSIL to bring in a cool form of Gypsy with DDiS Engine and slightly better looks. |
I dont think MUL will care a hoot, they will keep on selling the petrol gypsy to armed forces and be happy with it. Gypsy is not going to be promoted in the civilian market, the DDIs engine limited production number etc are going to big hurdle for this dream to be a reality.
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Originally Posted by 4x4addict @Jaggu:
My vote is to go for the Thar as it will be much more refined and you have kick-@ss Torque . Remove the anti-roll bars, add a shackle lift & jack up the front torsion bar, put bigger tires and you have an very off-road capable vehicle. The only concern will be the strength of the front axles. I sincerely doubt the Mahindra test track is as brutal as some terrain inhabited by Bangalore jeepers.
The gypsy and thar is a compromise, but I feel Thar will be the lesser of the devils. |
How will be the reliability if we do all this? We need to wait and watch for the time being is what i feel. Am not talking about warranty cover, which will cease to exist, but the vehicle reliability after all this :(
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Originally Posted by starter Hey Jaggu,
My thoughts: when you have 2 vehicles basically for off-road use, you would slowly start liking one more than the other.
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PS: If its between the two, it shall be the Gypsy for me Ease of maintaining it, over Thar CRDe and access to Khan/Vijay for suggestions/help in case you want to get it off-road prepped. |
True if so, DwArF will be maintained well with very limited offroad outings. More of a show piece.
Yes Gypsy somehow gives so much of comfort factor inside the head when it comes to fuss free maintainability.
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Originally Posted by Amar82 I beg to differ in case of highway cruiseability of gypsy vs thar. |
Gypsy is very light on the hands and superb cruiser, the Crde should be a good competition and am eager to see the real reports.
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Originally Posted by Zorro4X4 Thar does look impressive currently, but overall I am sure you will end up paying a lot on maintenance if you do buy the Thar. |
Yes i have this fear too.
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Originally Posted by khan_sultan Simple solution:
Use the TOW BAR that you have. SERIOUSLY. It will work 100% of the time. It's just that you have not used it. I wonder why you then installed it in the first place.
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Even if you want to do LEH, then these days you can do it extremely comfortably in your FIAT powered Suzuki Swift |
Do you seriously think Towing can achieve better speeds and timings compared to me driving DwArF in our indian highway? I really dont think so, after all our experiences. Tow bar is a back up plan and i think at this point of time, it will stay that way. Atleast that is what i feel.
Fun of doing leh in a 4x4 Vs an Innova! I really cant buy into the latter.
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Originally Posted by ex670c Which is easier to modify for OTR Requirements?
Do you want to modify a vehicle within its warranty/extended warranty period and get it cancelled or void. |
Modification Gypsy wins any day at this point of time, Thar is too new for me to even comment.
Warranty i really am not bothered coz both MUL and M&M will disown me within a week of purchase
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Originally Posted by fazalaliadil
Selling your CJ3B? If so please don't. Your petrol 3B is for keeps!
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CRDE under the hood for highway cruising which is proven and tested on a Scorpio for years doesn't need more of the same. It is you who will need to wait for them to catch up when driving for an OTR venue. |
Yes sir 3B stays for now, more i read all of your comments, the more i am sure!
Crde engine definitely is a HUGE advantage for a stock Thar and hence adds to my dilemma over gypsy!
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Originally Posted by Crazy4Power @Jaggu - I don’t agree to this,
Torque to weight ratio only helps in OTR where surface has something to offer. Other then rocks or very long climbs every thing can be managed with the momentum gained in short distance. |
Crawl! And if its Crawl + light vehicle like my 3B, nothing like it!
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Originally Posted by GTO Now we are talking. Just wait another week (or in the whereabouts) for the Team-BHP Thar Review. You'll have your answer. |
Yes one of the most eagerly awaited test drive report ever, atleast for me personally.
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Originally Posted by DKG Jaggu of the 14000 kms on my CJ3B since the petrol engine swap 11000 are on highways. I've done Bangalore, Bombay and Orissa border, not to mention countless trips to forests around Hyderabad.
The CJ3B petrol is divine on the road.
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I am willing to drive to Kashmir if I have company with one or two other vehicles but no one is game so far.
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Buy a hot hatch and keep Dwarf for your offroad fun. Its a offroad go kart alright.
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If we didn't have the CJ3B's I would anyday buy a new Thar. Its torquey engine is a delight.
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What's the best part about the CJ3B? I don't bat an eyelid when it scrapes somewhere, cause I know it will cost me a pittance to fix it. Its a bit like a Harley, all quirky but with oodles of character. |
I completely agree with you! You are my inspiration right from the day i purchased till today. And now 99% DwArF stays and he is gonna go in for some tune up soon. Am also researching on some know mods that will help me solve my highway dilemma.
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Originally Posted by headers @Jaggu: Personally, the 3B petrol is one vehicle to own for life! Period. |
Yes sir, point taken!
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Originally Posted by swastikviji Hi Jaggu Sir, take my advice sell DwArf, buy a gypsy, if you want i will find a mpfi for you, even i can help you to sell DwArf |
No sir, if it is going to be another vehicle. Thar or Gypsy, it is going to be new!