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Old 21st December 2019, 20:23   #121
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Out of curiosity, does putting a DSP on something like the Mercedes Burmester or BMW H/K system make a difference?
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Out of curiosity, does putting a DSP on something like the Mercedes Burmester or BMW H/K system make a difference?
Yes.

You have OEM integration systems where you can modify and tune as per the requirements (Eg: JL Audio FiX82 & FiX86).
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Today i got the sony dsp installed in my car. Was trying to go for 2 channel input install with front components and bridged subwoofer.
However there was a confusion on which wiring connection to select
The manual has speaker cord connection table for 4.1 connection only and it does not specify which combination of speaker connection to use when selecting type 2 connection ( 2 way speaker with bridged woofer )
In the demo and advertisement video it displays a different combination and suggests to use passive crossover with 2 way connection and filter option disabled while in manual it seems that direct connection is to be used with lpf+hpf filter selected
I was thinking that may be the green and purple wires were to be used for mid woofer of my component but at the end went for 4.1 connection with passive crossover supplied with infinity components and used front speaker connection only.
May be I will add coax in back doors but interested in knowing what would be the speaker connection for two way front speakers with bridged woofer selected

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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I have been planning WagonR 1.2 AGS ZXI, the only thing that puts me off is the stock ICE. The executive says there is no option to upgrade or replace the ICE.

Guys any idea if it could be done, and will it be worth it. Just to add my swift has DLS R6A component, Ground Zero sub, HK amp and Clarion DXZ/DZX series headunit with time alignment feature. Installed by Ajay Kamath 8 years back.

Not sure why Maruti doesn't realise that good quality ICE is now one of the factors in a car buying decision

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I have bought sony DSP gs6 which I got at a good price. Will infinity 6530 prove to be a good replacement to front stock speakers? Which sealed woofer should I go with?
The 6530 should work well.

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However there was a confusion on which wiring connection to select
The manual has speaker cord connection table for 4.1 connection only and it does not specify which combination of speaker connection to use when selecting type 2 connection ( 2 way speaker with bridged woofer )
I think they expect you to use it in active mode (2 channels for midbass and 2 channels for tweeter). See Page 14. Option 2.
https://www.sony.co.in/electronics/s.../D6271001M.pdf
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The 6530 should work well.



I think they expect you to use it in active mode (2 channels for midbass and 2 channels for tweeter). See Page 14. Option 2.
https://www.sony.co.in/electronics/s.../D6271001M.pdf
Thank you Mr Navin
I was indeed referring to second option but the only confusion was which output wire to use to connect mid bass
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Default Tata Nexon XM audio upgrade using DSP

I had recently upgraded the audio system of my Nexon XM using a Pioneer DEQ-S1000A DSP, while retaining the stock harmon kardon(non touchscreen) head unit.

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https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offic...ml#post4711345 (Tata Nexon : Official Review)
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Can someone please confirm which is the best speaker upgrade for Honda City 2019 model. The current audio clarity and bass go for a toss the moment sound is increased to 60+%. I was looking for an ICE upgrade but its too cumbersome as steering mounted controls, etc also need an update and warranty might be affected. Existing ICE is too laggy but I can work with it except the pathetic sound clarity.
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Thank you Mr Navin
I was indeed referring to second option but the only confusion was which output wire to use to connect mid bass
Page 15 has those details. I have attached a picture of that below.
It says Tweeter - Front. Mid - Rear. So the Front connections go to the tweeters. Hope this helps.
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Page 15 has those details. I have attached a picture of that below.
It says Tweeter - Front. Mid - Rear. So the Front connections go to the tweeters. Hope this helps.
I had read that but interpreted that terminal can take tweeter/front speaker /mid/rear speaker
/ as Or but with now your confirmation it looks like it is to use tweeter or front speakers in front speakers connector and mid bass or rear speaker in rear speaker marked connector

Thanks !
will try this combination to check if it sounds better else will continue with 4.1 setup

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/ as Or but with now your confirmation it looks like it is to use tweeter or front speakers in front speakers connector and mid bass or rear speaker in rear speaker marked connector
Pin 1 and 2 are Front Speaker Left which means Left Tweeter. You should be able to deduce the rest.
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Pin 1 and 2 are Front Speaker Left which means Left Tweeter. You should be able to deduce the rest.
Thank you for the support and kudos to you for sharing budget dsp options. it made me upgrade my car sound and now it sounds better

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Pin 1 and 2 are Front Speaker Left which means Left Tweeter. You should be able to deduce the rest.
today I connected the components in active mode. front channel is being used to drive tweeters and rear channel mid bass.
now I am confused about LPF and HPF setting for Mid woofer.

I have set HPF for tweeters to 4Khz
what settings I should use for mid woofer
it has both LPF range between 500hz to 4 Khz
and HPF between 50hz to 500Hz

the Woofer in bridge mode has been set to around 80Hz ( approx. because there is no way to explicitly set that ( range is 50 hz to 500 hz )

4.1 mode was a-lot simpler as it was used without filter and passive filters were being used for components


Please share inputs. will appreciate any help
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I have set HPF for tweeters to 4Khz
what settings I should use for mid-woofer
it has both LPF range between 500hz to 4 kHz
and HPF between 50hz to 500Hz

the Woofer in bridge mode has been set to around 80Hz ( approx. because there is no way to explicitly set that ( range is 50 Hz to 500 Hz )

4.1 mode was a-lot simpler as it was used without filter and passive filters were being used for components

Please share inputs. will appreciate any help
Typically the HPF for the tweeter would be around 4k and the LPF for the woofer would also be around 4kHz. See the image below for an HPF and LPF of 1kHz.
Upgrading your OEM Car Audio using DSPs (budget version)-lpf-hpf.png

You do not need to set any HPF for the woofer unless you have a subwoofer.
If you have a subwoofer set an HPF for the woofer between 60 and 100Hz.

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Typically the HPF for the tweeter would be around 4k and the LPF for the woofer would also be around 4kHz. See the image below for an HPF and LPF of 1kHz.
Attachment 1953946

You do not need to set any HPF for the woofer unless you have a subwoofer.
If you have a subwoofer set an HPF for the woofer between 60 and 100Hz.
I do have subwoofer connected to 5-6 channel in bridged mode

Actually there is no way to disable HPF for mid woofer channels. for the Mid woofer I need to set both HPF ( Range 50 Hz - 500Hz) LPF (Range 500Hz - 4 Khz)

I have set 4Khz as LPF for channels using tweeters and 80 Hz for subwoofer channel
for mid woofer I have set HPF as 80 hz and LPF as 4KHZ. I am assuming that this will give me full frequency
80Hz and below to subwoofer
80hz - 4Khz to Mid woofer
4Khz > to tweeters

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