ICEing the Honda Civic - Part II (Carputer)

Invinsible · 15th June 2009, 15:07

you can have a look at this site, am sure this would help you to zero down on what you need.
There are also tons of information, just type "Carputer" in search column and you will get all of them.

Hope this helps!

Help me design a Carputer to take down the Bit One/ Dsp 6 - DIY Mobile Audio

monty9991 · 15th June 2009, 15:20

the best place for you to search around it MP3Car.com - Powered by vBulletin everything you need is here.

ST7677 · 15th June 2009, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital_Vampire

After playing with a few ordinary touchscreens (Lilliput, Sharc, Xenarc, Dynamix...) and comparing them to my laptop (Panasonic Toughbook with Transreflective panel), I'm more than convinced that I need a Transreflective panel with SAW touchscreen for my ride. I'm waiting for the approval from my Home-HQ for Vitamin-M

Nice, how much are we talking about here? and for what size?

ST7677 · 15th June 2009, 23:07

I am planning to use 8" widescreen Lilliput screen.
Can any one confirm if it will fit in the double din Civic dash panel?

The display portion of the LCD is 7" x 4"...

Invinsible · 15th June 2009, 23:28

Unless you modify and fiberglass the dash kit anything is possible.

sdh · 16th June 2009, 06:18

7 inch wide screen displays are already 100+ mm wide and barely fit in double dash opening. 8 inch will not fit without modifications.

ST7677 · 16th June 2009, 11:37

I am confused! Where am I going wrong?
As per Pythagorus theorem a^2 + b^2 = c^2, where a, b are sides and c is hypotenuse of the right angle triangle.

So for a 7" screen, 16:9 aspect ratio width= 6.1" and Height = 3.43"
and for a 8" screen, 16:9 aspect ratio width= 7" and Height = 3.93"

I guess lilliput screens are 15:9 aspect ratio so in this case
for a 8" screen, 15:9 aspect ratio width= 6.875" and Height = 4.125"

I guess width would fit however height might be slight problem. Note I am here talking only about the visible screen and not the outer case fitment.

BTW what is the exact size of a Double din opening? Google suggests it as 180mm x 100mm (W x H), approx 7” x 4”, can any one please confirm.

Also can anyone recommend me where can I buy hard disk from in Bangalore, I am looking for Seagate® Momentus® 7200.3 - ST9320421AS (320GB). Phone numbers will help. Also let me know if any one has any price idea about the components I am looking for.

sdh · 16th June 2009, 15:07

As per my understanding it is 178x100 mm.

Regarding LCD's, some lilliput displays are 15:9 as well.

For hard disk, try Computer Warehouse Online - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Accessories, Laptops and Electronics they are at barton centre, mg road. Prices are slightly higher than SP road, but prices are fixed, so you dont get a feeling of getting cheated.

Also one point on your display size calculation-Usually displays have extra glass on all sides and this is not symmetric. Left and bottom size has little more glass outside the viewing area compared to top and right side. Have a look at some LCD data sheet for better understanding of this.

Digital Vampire · 19th June 2009, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

Nice, how much are we talking about here? and for what size?

My ballpark estimates show $600-$700 for a 10.2" custom solution comprising the following

10.2" Open Frame Transreflective LCD panel
SAW Touchscreen
LED Backlight controller (Demo Board)
LCD Controller Board (I dont need this since my motherboard supports LVDS panels directly)

chiragh_bir · 19th June 2009, 15:26

here's something you guys should see...

Car Computer Manufacturer exporting direct from Taiwan

monty9991 · 20th June 2009, 23:01

this look nice but its expensive too

ST7677 · 20th June 2009, 23:11

one size never fits all, it's so much fun making one on your own focused on what you need.

A car computer is and makes your car so much more personal...

ST7677 · 24th June 2009, 15:31

I referred to the Art of Building Computer Transport article and it looks appealing to me. I would try and build a computer transport based on that.

I am not sure if all the recommendations given in it will really add tangible value.
I will need help from all the audio gurus here to help me guide through this. I request mods to move this thread under Ask the Gurus section...

While primary purpose of this CarPC will be Audio player (and processor hopefully), it will also be used for common carputer activities like GPS, video playback, internet browsing etc. So I guess I would leave the BIOS settings untouched and start by creating a seperate boot partition for Audio only settings and general settings.

Also the article suggests that powersupply available in computer is too noisy, so a parallel PSU should be setup for the Soundcard. Is this really required?

My sound card Asus Xonar does not take power through PCIx, it has an independent power supply, so I was planning to tap a 5V (?) output of the main Opus 360W PSU (before it goes into the PC) for this. Would this be sufficient or do I need to look at two parallel PSUs?
I have not ordered any PSU yet, but was planning to order OPUS 360W DC-DC.

ST7677 · 29th June 2009, 15:23

Ordered Lilliput 8" Widescreen LCD touchpanel, mentioned above @$240.

monty9991 · 29th June 2009, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

Ordered Lilliput 8" Widescreen LCD touchpanel, mentioned above @$240.

$240 includes shipping?

15th June 2009, 15:07	#16
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	you can have a look at this site, am sure this would help you to zero down on what you need. There are also tons of information, just type "Carputer" in search column and you will get all of them. Hope this helps! Help me design a Carputer to take down the Bit One/ Dsp 6 - DIY Mobile Audio
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15th June 2009, 15:20	#17
monty9991 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 706 Thanked: 42 Times View My Garage	the best place for you to search around it MP3Car.com - Powered by vBulletin everything you need is here.
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15th June 2009, 23:07	#19
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 106 Times	I am planning to use 8" widescreen Lilliput screen. Can any one confirm if it will fit in the double din Civic dash panel? The display portion of the LCD is 7" x 4"...
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15th June 2009, 23:28	#20
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	Unless you modify and fiberglass the dash kit anything is possible.
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16th June 2009, 06:18	#21
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	7 inch wide screen displays are already 100+ mm wide and barely fit in double dash opening. 8 inch will not fit without modifications.
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16th June 2009, 11:37	#22
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 106 Times	I am confused! Where am I going wrong? As per Pythagorus theorem a^2 + b^2 = c^2, where a, b are sides and c is hypotenuse of the right angle triangle. So for a 7" screen, 16:9 aspect ratio width= 6.1" and Height = 3.43" and for a 8" screen, 16:9 aspect ratio width= 7" and Height = 3.93" I guess lilliput screens are 15:9 aspect ratio so in this case for a 8" screen, 15:9 aspect ratio width= 6.875" and Height = 4.125" I guess width would fit however height might be slight problem. Note I am here talking only about the visible screen and not the outer case fitment. BTW what is the exact size of a Double din opening? Google suggests it as 180mm x 100mm (W x H), approx 7” x 4”, can any one please confirm. Also can anyone recommend me where can I buy hard disk from in Bangalore, I am looking for Seagate® Momentus® 7200.3 - ST9320421AS (320GB). Phone numbers will help. Also let me know if any one has any price idea about the components I am looking for.
	() Thanks

16th June 2009, 15:07	#23
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	As per my understanding it is 178x100 mm. Regarding LCD's, some lilliput displays are 15:9 as well. For hard disk, try Computer Warehouse Online - Buy Computers, Computer Parts, Computer Accessories, Laptops and Electronics they are at barton centre, mg road. Prices are slightly higher than SP road, but prices are fixed, so you dont get a feeling of getting cheated. Also one point on your display size calculation-Usually displays have extra glass on all sides and this is not symmetric. Left and bottom size has little more glass outside the viewing area compared to top and right side. Have a look at some LCD data sheet for better understanding of this. Last edited by sdh : 16th June 2009 at 15:14. Reason: added some more comments.
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19th June 2009, 15:26	#25
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	here's something you guys should see... Car Computer Manufacturer exporting direct from Taiwan
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20th June 2009, 23:01	#26
monty9991 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 706 Thanked: 42 Times View My Garage	this look nice but its expensive too
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20th June 2009, 23:11	#27
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 106 Times	one size never fits all, it's so much fun making one on your own focused on what you need. A car computer is and makes your car so much more personal...
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24th June 2009, 15:31	#28
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 106 Times	I referred to the Art of Building Computer Transport article and it looks appealing to me. I would try and build a computer transport based on that. I am not sure if all the recommendations given in it will really add tangible value. I will need help from all the audio gurus here to help me guide through this. I request mods to move this thread under Ask the Gurus section... While primary purpose of this CarPC will be Audio player (and processor hopefully), it will also be used for common carputer activities like GPS, video playback, internet browsing etc. So I guess I would leave the BIOS settings untouched and start by creating a seperate boot partition for Audio only settings and general settings. Also the article suggests that powersupply available in computer is too noisy, so a parallel PSU should be setup for the Soundcard. Is this really required? My sound card Asus Xonar does not take power through PCIx, it has an independent power supply, so I was planning to tap a 5V (?) output of the main Opus 360W PSU (before it goes into the PC) for this. Would this be sufficient or do I need to look at two parallel PSUs? I have not ordered any PSU yet, but was planning to order OPUS 360W DC-DC.
	() Thanks

29th June 2009, 15:23	#29
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 106 Times	Ordered Lilliput 8" Widescreen LCD touchpanel, mentioned above @$240.
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