Hyundai Getz - Install Help

Vivekphadnis · 28th September 2005, 20:26

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Originally Posted by pranil

OH My God. Hacksaw No. I think I will borrow the jigsaw from one of my project sites. I can easily get it cut. Any specific tips on MDF.

Marine ply preferable I think. What about painting it. any sealent required around them- Say silicon sealent to make them airtight.

Attena problem stillnot going away. What I found after further research that it has become highly directional. My old KEH santro is much better in that aspect.

It is one of the roof mounted ones like swift. Should I try a chinese make inside the car one. Are they effective. What I remember from my basic oldf days is antena should be atleast 6 -9 inch for FM

I cut eight holes for my home speaker project with hacksaw blades. My palms were red as tomatoes after all the cutting and filing.

Tarun · 28th September 2005, 22:03

Oops ! is the post too late or i got my car early ?

I think most getz owners have got it wrong with stereo installation, atleast i did.
Anyways thanks for sharing Gundeep.

Tarun

P.S. Where are you located

pranil · 28th September 2005, 22:34

Guys getting Sony XM-2025 I think 20 W per channel Bridgeable Amp for Rs. 1100 ( USED)

This will fit easily fit behind my glovebox. Or Should it be near the sub to avaoid power loss. In that case inside the side panel as sugessted by gunbir.

Dimension are 6"X5"X2".

Now I have to find only a Cheap sub to go with it and build my own box.

Any Sugesstions.

gunbir · 28th September 2005, 22:49

If I remember correctly, thats from somewhere like 1997(ish). Can you confirm its specs and output in bridged mode...

If Im right, its a bit small for running a sub...

navin · 29th September 2005, 10:22

the 2025 is too small for running a sub. it cant delvier the amps. it was desinged for triamped systems to run mids and tweeters.

Autophile · 29th September 2005, 10:36

It might give 60-80Watts in briged mode....one can run a high efficiency sub with it (not more than 10"). The combination will work the best if installed in IB.

navin · 29th September 2005, 12:31

I think it was 40W rms in bidge and you could run a sensitive 8" on it.

pranil · 30th September 2005, 22:36

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Originally Posted by navin

I think it was 40W rms in bidge and you could run a sensitive 8" on it.

How much is sensitive enough 91 DB/w/m OR 93 /w/m or much higher.

The thing about putting your system is much better than getting it fixed, But I have very less patience. I try to sneak every night to work on the car. I do not know how vivek manages it.( to wait so long)

By the way the front are almost comissioned . First sounds this sunday hopefully

Autophile · 1st October 2005, 11:03

In case of 8" sub...91dB is pretty decent. Though more sensitivity will get you more loudness for same power.

navin · 1st October 2005, 11:09

right said JB! :-) LOL

pranil · 2nd October 2005, 01:46

Guys tell me If I am right.

If my fronts comp and rear Coaxials are running on 22 w rms per channel and assuming that the speakers are 91db/w/m

would a 40 watt rms amp in bridged suffice with 89 db speaker or I need
more sensitive sub e.g. 91 db/w/m .

I jsut need the fill of the sub so that overall ambienence and car noise or highway is filled out. I really miss U2 and lion king without the sub.

How about this
http://www.mmxpress.com/Pioneer/tsw304.htm.
Retaling on streets about 1500.

off course using a sealed or ported box. Just started the reserch today. Plan to build my own

pranil · 2nd October 2005, 02:09

Often I hear the term bridged amp and 2 channel bridged.

Does it mean the two output channel outputs are connected in parallel or in series.

Also I have seen woofers with dual coils. Does that mean each voice coil gets seprate amp input or are they paralelled or are they in series.??

If I am am not wrong each combination will acahive a diffrent power delivery

mclaren1885 · 2nd October 2005, 02:27

Bridged Power:
When you bridge an amplifier, you combine the power output of two channels into one channel. Bridging allows you to drive one speaker with more power than the amp could produce for two speakers. Because of this high power output, bridging is an ideal way to drive a single subwoofer..
Usually, an amp is bridged by connecting the speaker leads to the positive (+) terminal from one channel and the negative (-) terminal from the other channel..

Voice Coil:
The voice coil consists of a former (or bobbin) with wire wound around it. The voice coil is attached to the bottom of the cone and extends into the air gap surrounding the pole piece. The voice coil translates the magnet's energy into cone motion.

Dual voice coil subwoofer:
While typical speaker drivers have one voice coil, dual voice coil (DVC) subwoofers allow you the advantage of flexibility in wiring your system. Parallel wiring provides for maximum amplifier output, while series wiring lets you configure multiple woofers to one amplifier at an acceptable impedance. In series/parallel mode, you can wire 4 woofers to a single amp, for example, and still maintain a compatible impedance. Independent wiring lets you drive a single sub without bridging (or by bridging a four channel amp to one sub)...

hope that helps ur query..

gunbir · 2nd October 2005, 02:43

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Originally Posted by pranil

How about this. Retaling on streets about 1500.Plan to build my own

Pranil... dude... Lion King?? arent you a little old for Hakuna Matata.. hehe

No man... stay away from the pioneer subs... they suck big time...

Ok, again, heres what you can do, get a nice sensetive 8" or 10" and do an infinite baffle install in your spare wheel cavity. A sealed box requires more power and since you are on a watt budget, its better to do an IB.

You could use the Hertz Energy ES200 - 91dB. It will work well in your car. go to http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com and look in the tech section for the install manual. Besides complete specs, it has other useful information like parallel / series impedance configuration etc.

navin · 2nd October 2005, 23:44

gunbir these the current 10 VCDs/DVDs i got in my car changer.
1. Finding Nemo
2. Lion King 1
3. Lion King 2
4. Madagascar
5. Bug's life 1
6. Bug's life 2
7. Dinosaur 1
8. Dinosaur 2
9. Shark's Tale
10. Shrek.

mclaren, thanks for those definitions. Sam see i found my understudy! Between Vivek and McLaren this thread is in safe hands for the next 20 years.

Pranil there are nicer subs than the Pio 12" unless ofcourse you have a budget.

28th September 2005, 22:03	#47
Tarun BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Delhi Posts: 159 Thanked: 17 Times	Oops ! is the post too late or i got my car early ? I think most getz owners have got it wrong with stereo installation, atleast i did. Anyways thanks for sharing Gundeep. Tarun P.S. Where are you located
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28th September 2005, 22:34	#48
pranil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Times	Sony Used Amp to drive SUB Guys getting Sony XM-2025 I think 20 W per channel Bridgeable Amp for Rs. 1100 ( USED) This will fit easily fit behind my glovebox. Or Should it be near the sub to avaoid power loss. In that case inside the side panel as sugessted by gunbir. Dimension are 6"X5"X2". Now I have to find only a Cheap sub to go with it and build my own box. Any Sugesstions.
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28th September 2005, 22:49	#49
gunbir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,465 Thanked: 32 Times	If I remember correctly, thats from somewhere like 1997(ish). Can you confirm its specs and output in bridged mode... If Im right, its a bit small for running a sub...
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29th September 2005, 10:22	#50
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	the 2025 is too small for running a sub. it cant delvier the amps. it was desinged for triamped systems to run mids and tweeters.
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29th September 2005, 10:36	#51
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	It might give 60-80Watts in briged mode....one can run a high efficiency sub with it (not more than 10"). The combination will work the best if installed in IB.
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29th September 2005, 12:31	#52
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	I think it was 40W rms in bidge and you could run a sensitive 8" on it.
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1st October 2005, 11:03	#54
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	In case of 8" sub...91dB is pretty decent. Though more sensitivity will get you more loudness for same power.
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1st October 2005, 11:09	#55
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	right said JB! :-) LOL
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2nd October 2005, 01:46	#56
pranil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Times	Power sensitivity Guys tell me If I am right. If my fronts comp and rear Coaxials are running on 22 w rms per channel and assuming that the speakers are 91db/w/m would a 40 watt rms amp in bridged suffice with 89 db speaker or I need more sensitive sub e.g. 91 db/w/m . I jsut need the fill of the sub so that overall ambienence and car noise or highway is filled out. I really miss U2 and lion king without the sub. How about this http://www.mmxpress.com/Pioneer/tsw304.htm. Retaling on streets about 1500. off course using a sealed or ported box. Just started the reserch today. Plan to build my own Last edited by pranil : 2nd October 2005 at 01:47.
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2nd October 2005, 02:09	#57
pranil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 Times	Bridgeing the amp Often I hear the term bridged amp and 2 channel bridged. Does it mean the two output channel outputs are connected in parallel or in series. Also I have seen woofers with dual coils. Does that mean each voice coil gets seprate amp input or are they paralelled or are they in series.?? If I am am not wrong each combination will acahive a diffrent power delivery Last edited by pranil : 2nd October 2005 at 02:11.
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2nd October 2005, 02:27	#58
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Bridged Power: When you bridge an amplifier, you combine the power output of two channels into one channel. Bridging allows you to drive one speaker with more power than the amp could produce for two speakers. Because of this high power output, bridging is an ideal way to drive a single subwoofer.. Usually, an amp is bridged by connecting the speaker leads to the positive (+) terminal from one channel and the negative (-) terminal from the other channel.. Voice Coil: The voice coil consists of a former (or bobbin) with wire wound around it. The voice coil is attached to the bottom of the cone and extends into the air gap surrounding the pole piece. The voice coil translates the magnet's energy into cone motion. Dual voice coil subwoofer: While typical speaker drivers have one voice coil, dual voice coil (DVC) subwoofers allow you the advantage of flexibility in wiring your system. Parallel wiring provides for maximum amplifier output, while series wiring lets you configure multiple woofers to one amplifier at an acceptable impedance. In series/parallel mode, you can wire 4 woofers to a single amp, for example, and still maintain a compatible impedance. Independent wiring lets you drive a single sub without bridging (or by bridging a four channel amp to one sub)... hope that helps ur query..
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2nd October 2005, 23:44	#60
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	gunbir these the current 10 VCDs/DVDs i got in my car changer. 1. Finding Nemo 2. Lion King 1 3. Lion King 2 4. Madagascar 5. Bug's life 1 6. Bug's life 2 7. Dinosaur 1 8. Dinosaur 2 9. Shark's Tale 10. Shrek. mclaren, thanks for those definitions. Sam see i found my understudy! Between Vivek and McLaren this thread is in safe hands for the next 20 years. Pranil there are nicer subs than the Pio 12" unless ofcourse you have a budget.
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