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Old 13th September 2018, 22:15   #361
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A little off topic: I just checked that Cobham website. I was surprised to see their system also deployed on the SU30!?

I am surprised they were allowed to sell this sort of technology to countries using the SU30!

Another case of money makes the world go around I guess?

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India is an interesting case study. Given the largesse on offer for exporters you'll find all manner of strange bedfellows. Especially now the Americans want to get in on the act.

Take India's S-400 purchase. Look at the almighty stink US Congress kicked up with Turkey's plan to purchase the S-400, going so far as to halt F-35 deliveries to a partner nation, a NATO nation (now I should add there's a plethora of other reasons also at play here). To that regard India should be under the sanctions spotlight but at the 2+2 dialogue between Mattis, Pompeo, Swaraj and Sitharaman, India kindly reminded the US that Russia is a long time defence ally and India just won't be backtracking on the 5 S-400 systems it agreed to purchase. I think you'll see that American monetary interests in terms of the big tenders still afloat will see this one get brushed under the carpet, unless the White House is forced to issue some sort of rebuke so that there's no double standard wrt the Turkey case (though again, I'm aware Turkey's decision is more glaring given it is a NATO member).

So rather than the Cobham refuelling pods on Sukhois coming across as surprising, I'd be gobsmacked if ever the US should countenance Indian deliveries of F-35 jets whilst S-400 units are being inducted! That would make my head spin truly and I imagine I won't be the only one. Besides I feel like perhaps the pods come under the same bracket as standard kit as maybe ejection seats. Are there sanctions against Martin Baker seats being used by non NATO nations, or shall we say instead Chinese or Russian companies?
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... Besides I feel like perhaps the pods come under the same bracket as standard kit as maybe ejection seats. Are there sanctions against Martin Baker seats being used by non NATO nations, or shall we say instead Chinese or Russian companies?
AFAIK, Indian SU-30's don't use Martin Baker ejection systems rather the Russian KD-36DM (0-0 ejection seat systems) and to a certain extent DRDO has developed indigenous seat/ejection systems. I remember reading some presentations on this from ADA in an international conference.
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https://www.thestatesman.com/opinion...502684392.html

Innocuous little piece, if not motivated, answers some questions and leaves one with a whole lot more.

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India is an interesting case study. Given the largesse on offer for exporters you'll find all manner of strange bedfellows.

So rather than the Cobham refuelling pods on Sukhois coming across as surprising......
Hope we have not become great jugaadi's
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https://www.thestatesman.com/opinion...502684392.html

Innocuous little piece, if not motivated, answers some questions and leaves one with a whole lot more.



Hope we have not become great jugaadi's
The article itself sounds more like "yellow" journalism rather than a technical review of COS.
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