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| ![]() I am looking to buy a washing machine and am looking at either Bosch or Siemens. I am looking at a front loading machine although I am not averse to a top loading one. Priorities: Wash quality Sound levels Servicing cost I have an IFB now and that has served me for 9 years now. But off late it has started giving more problems involving 1500 to 2000/- worth repairs once in 6 to 8 months. Does anyone have any experience with Siemens or Bosch? I have read through quite a few viewpoints on Siemens but none on Bosch in this forum. Travelwriter |
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| ![]() ^^^May we know why the body was changed? Rust? Have seen WM bodies last way longer. Even in humid weather. In fact I thought they should last the life of the machine. |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() I think it is mostly rust, that too at the bottom. Time was when appliances had enameled body - ceramic coating over steel. Those lasted a life time. Painted body are susceptible to rust. I know of quite a few who religiously paint their appliances every five years, and the bodies last twenty years or more. |
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| ![]() ^^^Ceramic coating over steel? Interesting. Our very old Videocon shows no sign of rust at all. Never painted, never did anything to prevent it. Body sheet metal is not so thick either. How can one tell if the surface is ceramic coated? |
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Here are some links http://www.ehow.com/info_8408033_por...-cookware.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast-iron_cookware | |
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| ![]() Does anyone have any experience with Siemens or Bosch? I have read through quite a few viewpoints on Siemens but none on Bosch in this forum. Travelwriter[/quote] Bosch and Siemens are nothing apart except for the names. In Germany it is called as BSH or Bosch Siemens Hausgerate, a collaboration. You will find the exteriors a bit different, but the internal hardware is the shared by both. |
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Enamel is actually a form of glass, rather than ceramic, but ceramics, whilst also having their roots in antiquity, turn up being used in very modern ways. I still find it hard to think of a ceramic knife blade, but I haven't been lucky enough to own one. Of course, paint technology has improved hugely, so enamel is not as necessary as it once was, but ...is there a paint that can outlast it? | |
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In Bangalore, one can go to their outlet (Bannerghatta Road, off Hosur Road from the graveyard side; 1st and 2nd floor above a garment shop on the left). Employees do get a hefty discount, but even then the outlet guy gives good discounts that Spar, etc. don't. Quote:
"Powder" coating, which is essentially polymer powder which is (electrostatically) sprayed and baked on to metal surfaces, almost does. Most large electrical panel manufacturers like BHEL, BEL, Siemens, ABB etc. have been using that for more than 35 years now. Haven't seen those panels losing coating even in punishing environments. Last edited by DerAlte : 2nd September 2012 at 19:39. | ||
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| ![]() "Powder" coating, which is essentially polymer powder which is (electrostatically) sprayed and baked on to metal surfaces, almost does. Most large electrical panel manufacturers like BHEL, BEL, Siemens, ABB etc. have been using that for more than 35 years now. Haven't seen those panels losing coating even in punishing environments.[/quote] Powder coating is an effective technology, but the part needs to undergo a through pre cleaning process to remove dust, dirt, and oil on the surface. The area in which the powder is sprayed should also be free from dirt and suspended particles to ensure a clean and effective powder coat. Also humidity plays an important role. I have seen parts rusting from inside out after a period of 3 years of use due to ineffective pre cleaning which was not noticed. The powder coat flaked out and the product had to replaced to customer free of cost. |
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http://www.stanleyworks.in/ They are VFM. | |
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| ![]() That was bad workmanship - nothing to do with the technology. Even enamel coating needs surface preparation. If a technician is lazy or deficient in his skills, no product will last long. |
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