The Home Appliance thread

sgiitk · 6th June 2015, 10:42

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Originally Posted by diyguy

We have two 320liter samsung fridges. Not sure if this is the right approach. Each fridge is consuming a total of 8.5 units a day in summer. I was reading up on the larger inverter fridges and they supposedly consume as low as 330 units (approx) a year!!! That's like at least 5 times more electricity usage if not the straight linear 8 times (8.5x365) comparison. This is about 14k more in electricity bill each year. This has got me thinking...

We have a 450+ size with Inverter. My niece was here and looked at the sticker. They bought a near identical non-inverter model at about the same time. Consumption more than 2x higher.

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Originally Posted by Sebring

There is a new LG fridge which they say consumes power equivalent to just 2 CFLs. Guys, any comments on this?

Two CFLs for 24-hours a day is a lot of juice!

diyguy · 6th June 2015, 11:51

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

They bought a near identical non-inverter model at about the same time. Consumption more than 2x higher.

Sir, any idea of the consumption on your model approximately how many units per year?

Thad E Ginathom · 6th June 2015, 14:28

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

Two CFLs for 24-hours a day is a lot of juice!

Rather depends on the CFL. I've seen huge ones. Could be five watts or fifty!

sgiitk · 6th June 2015, 14:55

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Originally Posted by diyguy

Sir, any idea of the consumption on your model approximately how many units per year?

I am in the NCR at present, I will check and report back on my return to Kanpur. So please wait! I do remember it is lower than the normal 280l Samsung in my office.

carboy · 7th June 2015, 12:06

Thinking of buying a Dishwasher. I am also going to be doing a lot of renovation in my kitchen - what do I need to do to prepare my kitchen for a dishwasher. Also I am looking for recommendation on Dishwashers. From google searches, I am looking at a Bosch Dishwasher - but I have no idea about their dealer and support network.

diyguy · 7th June 2015, 12:29

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Originally Posted by carboy

Thinking of buying a Dishwasher.

You will need a 15a socket at a height of about 1.5M from the ground, water inlet and water outlet again within about 1.5M distance. We have a samsung, running well now 2.5 years since. We connected to the kitchen sink inlet/outlet. The power chord was quite short and so used a belkin spike to extend it.

Jaguar · 7th June 2015, 16:26

The temperature control board of my Whirlpool Proton Refrigerator conked off and the technician blames it on voltage fluctuations. The fridge is connected to DG supply. How do I make sure the power supply is proper? Or should I just go for a Voltage Stabilizer?

sgiitk · 7th June 2015, 20:15

@Jaguar; I also have a 7.5kVA DG set but have never faced anything like that!!

Jaguar · 7th June 2015, 20:21

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

@Jaguar; I also have a 7.5kVA DG set but have never faced anything like that!!

Mine is not a personal DG set but the apartment one. So, not sure if the maintenance is proper.

sgiitk · 8th June 2015, 07:16

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Originally Posted by Jaguar

Mine is not a personal DG set but the apartment one. So, not sure if the maintenance is proper.

The bigger the load the better is the quality of power. So I doubt that will be to blame. A UPS may be different. I remember we had a large UPS (I think 300kVA) in the computer centre, which I persuaded them to share with our exchange. It was blowing the power supply, and when I checked there were massive 650V plus spikes. Must have been caused by the SMPS of the computer systems.

SR71-Blackbird · 8th June 2015, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Jaguar

The temperature control board of my Whirlpool Proton Refrigerator conked off and the technician blames it on voltage fluctuations. The fridge is connected to DG supply. How do I make sure the power supply is proper? Or should I just go for a Voltage Stabilizer?

The same temperature control board failed in our whirlpool protton refrigerator as well around 6 months back!

The technician blamed it on voltage fluctuations though it is connected only to mains power through a v-guard stabilizer. I tried to argue with him that it is a manufacturing defect and should be replaced for free but he didn't accept to it!

ramki067 · 8th June 2015, 10:31

Guys,

Power cuts are errant in our area which is in somewhat outskirts of the city where even Kaveri water is also not available.
Need to buy an inverter and battery to light up 4 tubelights and 3 fans. Kindly suggest good ones and also the capacity of inverter and battery i need to buy.

Thanks,
Ramki

Aroy · 8th June 2015, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Jaguar

The temperature control board of my Whirlpool Proton Refrigerator conked off and the technician blames it on voltage fluctuations. The fridge is connected to DG supply. How do I make sure the power supply is proper? Or should I just go for a Voltage Stabilizer?

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Originally Posted by SR71-Blackbird

The same temperature control board failed in our whirlpool protton refrigerator as well around 6 months back!

The technician blamed it on voltage fluctuations though it is connected only to mains power through a v-guard stabilizer. I tried to argue with him that it is a manufacturing defect and should be replaced for free but he didn't accept to it!

We now have two Whirlpool refrigerators - 410L and 250L, in both of them the controller blew. I think that electronics is the Achilles Heel of Whirlpool refrigerators, as they are not designed for high voltage fluctuations. The whirlpool technician admitted that it is a common occurrence with Whirlpool and recommended a good stabilizer with spike protection.

::CMS:: · 8th June 2015, 11:33

How can they blame on voltage fluctuation for their product to conk off unless it is a very high voltage and resulted in lot of other damages?

Ask him to prove that and if it is indeed due to power fluctuations then its the design flaw, how can somebody else than the manufacturer know what kind of power supply is required for the refrigerator to work unless it is mentioned in the manual? In all other cases its their fault to allow the power fluctuation to enter into their board, its supposed to have proper power supply. Ask them to replace under warranty if it is active.

Jaguar · 8th June 2015, 17:42

Looks like it is a common issue of Whirlpool. Unfortunately for me, the warranty was over and I had to pay for replacement. I guess I'd not invest in a stabilizer for now.

@CMS, strangely enough there is no mention of the required power supply in the manual. I need to check if there is something written behind the fridge near the power cord.

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carboy BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kolhapur Posts: 1,724 Thanked: 1,911 Times	Re: The Home Appliance thread Thinking of buying a Dishwasher. I am also going to be doing a lot of renovation in my kitchen - what do I need to do to prepare my kitchen for a dishwasher. Also I am looking for recommendation on Dishwashers. From google searches, I am looking at a Bosch Dishwasher - but I have no idea about their dealer and support network.
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Jaguar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,249 Thanked: 2,896 Times	Re: The Home Appliance thread The temperature control board of my Whirlpool Proton Refrigerator conked off and the technician blames it on voltage fluctuations. The fridge is connected to DG supply. How do I make sure the power supply is proper? Or should I just go for a Voltage Stabilizer?
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sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	Re: The Home Appliance thread @Jaguar; I also have a 7.5kVA DG set but have never faced anything like that!!
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8th June 2015, 10:31	#5247
ramki067 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 616 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Re: The Home Appliance thread Guys, Power cuts are errant in our area which is in somewhat outskirts of the city where even Kaveri water is also not available. Need to buy an inverter and battery to light up 4 tubelights and 3 fans. Kindly suggest good ones and also the capacity of inverter and battery i need to buy. Thanks, Ramki
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::CMS:: BHPian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bangalore Posts: 602 Thanked: 582 Times	Re: The Home Appliance thread How can they blame on voltage fluctuation for their product to conk off unless it is a very high voltage and resulted in lot of other damages? Ask him to prove that and if it is indeed due to power fluctuations then its the design flaw, how can somebody else than the manufacturer know what kind of power supply is required for the refrigerator to work unless it is mentioned in the manual? In all other cases its their fault to allow the power fluctuation to enter into their board, its supposed to have proper power supply. Ask them to replace under warranty if it is active. Last edited by ::CMS:: : 8th June 2015 at 11:37.
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8th June 2015, 17:42	#5250
Jaguar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,249 Thanked: 2,896 Times	Re: The Home Appliance thread Looks like it is a common issue of Whirlpool. Unfortunately for me, the warranty was over and I had to pay for replacement. I guess I'd not invest in a stabilizer for now. @CMS, strangely enough there is no mention of the required power supply in the manual. I need to check if there is something written behind the fridge near the power cord.
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