Team-BHP Linux support thread

sinhead · 3rd June 2020, 15:03

How to Choose the OS at every startup?
I have Win10 and Manjaro
Right now the pc boots to win by default. I can change that, so that it boots to manjaro by default.
But how to make the system ask the option at every boot?

WindRide · 23rd July 2020, 20:14

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Originally Posted by vishalrao

Has anyone here tried "elementary OS" yet? See https://elementary.io/

It's based on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with a nice clean and simple UI, my current favourite!

Note it has a "pay what you want" thing, so you can enter zero in the "custom" field and get the download link, if you want to try it out.

Elementary is 'pretty' and restrictive. Had a tough time with it before moving on to Linux Lite. Happy now.

girishv · 23rd July 2020, 20:42

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Originally Posted by sinhead

How to Choose the OS at every startup?
I have Win10 and Manjaro
Right now the pc boots to win by default. I can change that, so that it boots to manjaro by default.
But how to make the system ask the option at every boot?

May be you have changed the default boot time from 10s to very less. If not, by default grub waits for you to select the OS to boot.
You can either edit this value in grub config file or use grub customizer. Check this https://itsfoss.com/grub-customizer-ubuntu for easier customization of grub.

GandalfTheGrey · 19th November 2020, 00:46

Has anyone managed to install linux on HP Envy x360, Ryzen 5 ?

https://www.amazon.in/HP-13-3-Inch-T.../dp/B081H3XP3K

The sleep on close lid doesn't work at all for almost all flavours of linux. Tried various workarounds but no luck. Apparently there's a new idle power management in newer BIOS, a windows proprietary I believe, which isn't allowing linux kernel to take control over the power options of laptop. If anyone else faced similar issues, your inputs would be highly appreciated.

Cheers!

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 20th November 2020, 13:10

Isn't it possible to disable the new BIOS feature and fall back to the older features?

GandalfTheGrey · 22nd November 2020, 01:46

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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

Isn't it possible to disable the new BIOS feature and fall back to the older features?

Thanks for your reply. I don't think it's possible, but I may be wrong and have to check it to be sure. I'll check that possibility and revert.

Cheers!

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 22nd November 2020, 08:33

In the past, there used to be 2 protocols. APM - Advanced Power Management - and a 4 letter abbreviation, possibly APIC. (I forgot.) You could always disable the latter and enable the older APM. As the kernel improved, user level interventions became less, and we did not have to bother. (Hence the forgetfulness). If the FLOSS community let's down its guard because things simply work, yes, this thread will be more frequented. ;-D

deepclutch · 23rd November 2020, 16:48

Wonder if anyone here is using FreeBSD as their daily driver? I am using FreeBSD since a couple of months. It is now more easier to use compared to the last time I tried, when ports was the only available choice. With the pkg pre-compiled binaries available, it is almost as easy as installing Debian, according to my experience.

Aside, I also use Devuan Linux, running on openRC init - choice of using alternate init, instead of systemd.

Samurai · 23rd November 2020, 18:22

Using the off the beat distros is fine for personal use. But for production use, it becomes a problem. So in my company we standardized on Debian. Recently a new customer complained that Debian is not standard enough.

That is because AWS doesn't provide a official image for Debian. They need the product running on AWS. They want us to support Red Hat or CentOS, which have official AWS image. Good grief!

Right now we use some non-official Debian build on AWS. Customer is not thrilled.

GandalfTheGrey · 27th November 2020, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Using the off the beat distros is fine for personal use. But for production use, it becomes a problem. So in my company we standardized on Debian. Recently a new customer complained that Debian is not standard enough.

That is because AWS doesn't provide a official image for Debian. They need the product running on AWS. They want us to support Red Hat or CentOS, which have official AWS image. Good grief!

Right now we use some non-official Debian build on AWS. Customer is not thrilled.

I'm a noob when it comes to AWS, so I may be wrong here, but I'm just curious. When you say official image of Debian isn't available, isn't an image of debian based Ubuntu LTS server version available in the AMIs?

Cheers!

Samurai · 27th November 2020, 11:32

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Originally Posted by GandalfTheGrey

I'm a noob when it comes to AWS, so I may be wrong here, but I'm just curious. When you say official image of Debian isn't available, isn't an image of debian based Ubuntu LTS server version available in the AMIs?

There are plenty of Debian 10 images, but they are put there by general public. Just like in docker repository, where you can find images from just about anybody.

ashenoy · 27th November 2020, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Samurai

That is because AWS doesn't provide a official image for Debian. They need the product running on AWS. They want us to support Red Hat or CentOS, which have official AWS image. Good grief!

Right now we use some non-official Debian build on AWS. Customer is not thrilled.

Why not use AWS Linux ? It is based on CentOS for the most part, even uses the same upstream for updates.

Samurai · 27th November 2020, 20:58

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Originally Posted by ashenoy

Why not use AWS Linux ? It is based on CentOS for the most part, even uses the same upstream for updates.

As I said earlier, the distro for production servers have to be chosen very carefully.

We have dependency on plenty of other open source products, and the massive code base that been tested on Debian for many years. In order to switch, the new distro has to support every dependency, and we need to extensively test the software all over again.

sinhead · 7th July 2021, 18:06

Please recommend a usb wifi reciever compatible with Linux - Debian.
With antenna will be fine.

Casual look at amazon and TP Link website -

1. TP link -TL-WN722N - n150 - hi-gain - supports linux, But all the Debian reviews on amazon are old, dating 2017.

2. TP link - TL-WN725N - n 150 - supports linux reviews for debian are from 2019, 2020.

Drivers for both on TPlink website are from 2018. kernel 4.4.3.

What is confusing me is, There are versions of these products, and latest versions work for some linux users, don't work for others. and I want to avoid compiling, hunting at github for drivers.

JustStarted · 7th July 2021, 18:25

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Originally Posted by sinhead

Please recommend a usb wifi reciever compatible with Linux - Debian.
With antenna will be fine.

i use N300, detected without any issue, kernel: 5.4.0

no driver needed.

https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-TL-WN7.../dp/B002T4D3M2

3rd June 2020, 15:03	#151
sinhead BANNED Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 154 Thanked: 113 Times	Re: Team-BHP Linux support thread How to Choose the OS at every startup? I have Win10 and Manjaro Right now the pc boots to win by default. I can change that, so that it boots to manjaro by default. But how to make the system ask the option at every boot?
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19th November 2020, 00:46	#154
GandalfTheGrey BHPian Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 96 Thanked: 443 Times	Re: Team-BHP Linux support thread Has anyone managed to install linux on HP Envy x360, Ryzen 5 ? https://www.amazon.in/HP-13-3-Inch-T.../dp/B081H3XP3K The sleep on close lid doesn't work at all for almost all flavours of linux. Tried various workarounds but no luck. Apparently there's a new idle power management in newer BIOS, a windows proprietary I believe, which isn't allowing linux kernel to take control over the power options of laptop. If anyone else faced similar issues, your inputs would be highly appreciated. Cheers!
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20th November 2020, 13:10	#155
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Isn't it possible to disable the new BIOS feature and fall back to the older features?
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22nd November 2020, 08:33	#157
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	In the past, there used to be 2 protocols. APM - Advanced Power Management - and a 4 letter abbreviation, possibly APIC. (I forgot.) You could always disable the latter and enable the older APM. As the kernel improved, user level interventions became less, and we did not have to bother. (Hence the forgetfulness). If the FLOSS community let's down its guard because things simply work, yes, this thread will be more frequented. ;-D
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23rd November 2020, 16:48	#158
deepclutch Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Muvattupuzha Posts: 1,165 Thanked: 162 Times	Re: Team-BHP Linux support thread Wonder if anyone here is using FreeBSD as their daily driver? I am using FreeBSD since a couple of months. It is now more easier to use compared to the last time I tried, when ports was the only available choice. With the pkg pre-compiled binaries available, it is almost as easy as installing Debian, according to my experience. Aside, I also use Devuan Linux, running on openRC init - choice of using alternate init, instead of systemd.
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23rd November 2020, 18:22	#159
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,830 Thanked: 45,558 Times View My Garage	Re: Team-BHP Linux support thread Using the off the beat distros is fine for personal use. But for production use, it becomes a problem. So in my company we standardized on Debian. Recently a new customer complained that Debian is not standard enough. That is because AWS doesn't provide a official image for Debian. They need the product running on AWS. They want us to support Red Hat or CentOS, which have official AWS image. Good grief! Right now we use some non-official Debian build on AWS. Customer is not thrilled.
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7th July 2021, 18:06	#164
sinhead BANNED Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 154 Thanked: 113 Times	Re: Team-BHP Linux support thread Please recommend a usb wifi reciever compatible with Linux - Debian. With antenna will be fine. Casual look at amazon and TP Link website - 1. TP link -TL-WN722N - n150 - hi-gain - supports linux, But all the Debian reviews on amazon are old, dating 2017. 2. TP link - TL-WN725N - n 150 - supports linux reviews for debian are from 2019, 2020. Drivers for both on TPlink website are from 2018. kernel 4.4.3. What is confusing me is, There are versions of these products, and latest versions work for some linux users, don't work for others. and I want to avoid compiling, hunting at github for drivers.
	() Thanks