Team-BHP Linux support thread

devarshi84 · 28th July 2007, 21:18

I have been using Linux for some time now on my laptop. First it was redhat and then xandros.
I have never had issues with them on my laptop.

But today I installed UBUNTU 7.04 and couldnt get internet to work.

My desktop doesnt have ethernet support and had been running internet on USB.

I know how difficult it is to get internet to work via USB but I still want to give it a try.

many users here have used UBUNTU. Please help.

OS- UBUNTU 7.04
Modem- HUAWEI WA1003A
Internet connection- Dataone DSL

PS: It works on my laptop with ethernet but I want it to work via USB on m Desktop.

Thanks

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 28th July 2007, 21:59

A linux user!!!! hi!!!

I do not use ubuntu, but use Debian Sid on which ubuntu is based, but that is a bit like saying "Maruti Swift is based on SX4, so you can interchange the boot doors". So, there may be slight differences in your case.

Looks like usbnet and / or cdc_ether kernel modules are not being loaded.
Please try the following commands from the command line (terminal)

Make sure that the usb system is working on the machine where the usb modem is not working, by issuing this command:-
"lsmod |grep -i usb"
If USB is working, you ought to get something like:-
"usbcore 125064 2 uhci_hcd"

Next, on the machine where the usb modem is WORKING:-
"lsmod |grep -i cdc"
and compare the output on the machine where it is not working.

My guess that you find that usbnet and cdc_ether modules are not listed on the machine where the usb modem is not working.

You should next issue the command "modprobe usbnet" and root / superuser to insert the kernel.

Your modem will now be detected. Once the "modprobe" command has successfully exited, issue the command "dmesg" to find out the device name assigned to your modem. Use that as the device to configure your network.

Remember that at no stage you need to reboo any our of your machines - simply issue the command "/etc/init.d/networking restart" to get the network restarted.

Please get back in case of difficulty.

devarshi84 · 29th July 2007, 11:33

I tried that. The terminal doesnt accept the code. :(

Just for some more information. The usb on the modem doesnt light up when I start the desktop but if I re-plug the USB it lights up. Nothing happens though.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 29th July 2007, 12:53

Huh? what do you mean by "not accept the code"? That is no code - it is simply a command, which tells you to do something.
lsmod, modprobe, dmesg are very basic commands, which are installed by default on any computer.
"|" means a pipe; in common english, "|" means filter the output of command on left through the command on the right (of the "|"). "-i" for the "grep" command means "search for case insensitive words.
dmesg command shows log of the kernel's activity.

devarshi84 · 29th July 2007, 17:14

what I meant was. when I input the code in the terminal. There was no reaction. nothing happened.

sbasak · 29th July 2007, 18:17

winmodems [i.e. software modems under windows] are usually quite difficult to use with Linux.

Best option for Linux internet is to get a hardware modem [USB] or connect to internet via Ethernet port.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 30th July 2007, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by devarshi84

what I meant was. when I input the code in the terminal. There was no reaction. nothing happened.

That is strange. What terminal programme are you using? Open something gnome terminal or multi gnome terminal.
You can also try "ctrl + alt + F!" to get the console; and use "ctl + alt + F7 to get back to the graphic user interface (X).

devarshi84 · 30th July 2007, 12:20

@BackseatDriver: I am using the Gnome terminal. And yes its strange that I didnt get anything. what else can you suggest?

@Sbasak: I will probably get an ethernet installed. Seems to be the best way out. heheh.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 30th July 2007, 17:59

Strange. ok; then just post the output of "lsmod"

Also, why dont you subscribe the Ilug delhi mailing list?
Send a blank mail with the subject "subscribe" to mailto:ilugd-request@lists.linux-delhi.org?subject=subscribe
and while posting, send mail to mailto:ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
It wil be easier, and you should get support from more and more knowledgeable peope.

devarshi84 · 31st July 2007, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbasak

winmodems [i.e. software modems under windows] are usually quite difficult to use with Linux.

Best option for Linux internet is to get a hardware modem [USB] or connect to internet via Ethernet port.

sbabsak, thanks, you comment is what made my thinktanks attack.

I have finally done it. I played smart. Ditched USB and found the ethernet which was underneath my monitor cable. A wierd place to find one. Had to tweak a bit but now its working.

@backseatdriver: thanks very much for your support. It was helpful. next in line are the latest mozilla drivers with Flash player support, and HP printer installation.

devarshi84 · 4th August 2007, 11:31

Update: got my flash player working on Mozilla
Got acrobat reader working
Got Creative zen music manager working
Got HP laserjet printer working
Got mp3 and DVD formats working.
Helix is in line.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 9th August 2007, 21:45

Some suggestions:-

"sudo apt-get install <program>" will install the required program.
You do not require acrobat to read pdf - you can use xpdf.

Ubuntu uses gnome, and I use KDE here, but you can try k3b - look up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto

devarshi84 · 11th August 2007, 17:34

but is the xpdf pre-installed? I dont think so.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 11th August 2007, 21:10

Yes, even I am not sure what is installed by default in Ubuntu - but I guess it ought to be there. At least "apt-cache search pdf' will tell you.

devarshi84 · 12th August 2007, 23:18

At the moment everything is working fine. Thans to synaptics.

but my vcd's are giving trouble. I tried various players. Whenever I insert a cd, the OS will hang for 2 mins.

what is the solution to this?

28th July 2007, 21:18	#1
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Team-BHP Linux support thread I have been using Linux for some time now on my laptop. First it was redhat and then xandros. I have never had issues with them on my laptop. But today I installed UBUNTU 7.04 and couldnt get internet to work. My desktop doesnt have ethernet support and had been running internet on USB. I know how difficult it is to get internet to work via USB but I still want to give it a try. many users here have used UBUNTU. Please help. OS- UBUNTU 7.04 Modem- HUAWEI WA1003A Internet connection- Dataone DSL PS: It works on my laptop with ethernet but I want it to work via USB on m Desktop. Thanks
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28th July 2007, 21:59	#2
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	A linux user!!!! hi!!! I do not use ubuntu, but use Debian Sid on which ubuntu is based, but that is a bit like saying "Maruti Swift is based on SX4, so you can interchange the boot doors". So, there may be slight differences in your case. Looks like usbnet and / or cdc_ether kernel modules are not being loaded. Please try the following commands from the command line (terminal) Make sure that the usb system is working on the machine where the usb modem is not working, by issuing this command:- "lsmod \|grep -i usb" If USB is working, you ought to get something like:- "usbcore 125064 2 uhci_hcd" Next, on the machine where the usb modem is WORKING:- "lsmod \|grep -i cdc" and compare the output on the machine where it is not working. My guess that you find that usbnet and cdc_ether modules are not listed on the machine where the usb modem is not working. You should next issue the command "modprobe usbnet" and root / superuser to insert the kernel. Your modem will now be detected. Once the "modprobe" command has successfully exited, issue the command "dmesg" to find out the device name assigned to your modem. Use that as the device to configure your network. Remember that at no stage you need to reboo any our of your machines - simply issue the command "/etc/init.d/networking restart" to get the network restarted. Please get back in case of difficulty.
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29th July 2007, 11:33	#3
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	I tried that. The terminal doesnt accept the code. :( Just for some more information. The usb on the modem doesnt light up when I start the desktop but if I re-plug the USB it lights up. Nothing happens though.
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29th July 2007, 12:53	#4
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Huh? what do you mean by "not accept the code"? That is no code - it is simply a command, which tells you to do something. lsmod, modprobe, dmesg are very basic commands, which are installed by default on any computer. "\|" means a pipe; in common english, "\|" means filter the output of command on left through the command on the right (of the "\|"). "-i" for the "grep" command means "search for case insensitive words. dmesg command shows log of the kernel's activity.
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29th July 2007, 17:14	#5
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	what I meant was. when I input the code in the terminal. There was no reaction. nothing happened.
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29th July 2007, 18:17	#6
sbasak BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CCU-LTN Posts: 608 Thanked: 14 Times	winmodems [i.e. software modems under windows] are usually quite difficult to use with Linux. Best option for Linux internet is to get a hardware modem [USB] or connect to internet via Ethernet port.
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30th July 2007, 12:20	#8
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	@BackseatDriver: I am using the Gnome terminal. And yes its strange that I didnt get anything. what else can you suggest? @Sbasak: I will probably get an ethernet installed. Seems to be the best way out. heheh.
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30th July 2007, 17:59	#9
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Strange. ok; then just post the output of "lsmod" Also, why dont you subscribe the Ilug delhi mailing list? Send a blank mail with the subject "subscribe" to mailto:ilugd-request@lists.linux-delhi.org?subject=subscribe and while posting, send mail to mailto:ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org It wil be easier, and you should get support from more and more knowledgeable peope.
	() Thanks

4th August 2007, 11:31	#11
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Update: got my flash player working on Mozilla Got acrobat reader working Got Creative zen music manager working Got HP laserjet printer working Got mp3 and DVD formats working. Helix is in line.
	() Thanks

9th August 2007, 21:45	#12
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Some suggestions:- "sudo apt-get install <program>" will install the required program. You do not require acrobat to read pdf - you can use xpdf. Ubuntu uses gnome, and I use KDE here, but you can try k3b - look up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
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11th August 2007, 17:34	#13
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	but is the xpdf pre-installed? I dont think so.
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11th August 2007, 21:10	#14
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Yes, even I am not sure what is installed by default in Ubuntu - but I guess it ought to be there. At least "apt-cache search pdf' will tell you.
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12th August 2007, 23:18	#15
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	At the moment everything is working fine. Thans to synaptics. but my vcd's are giving trouble. I tried various players. Whenever I insert a cd, the OS will hang for 2 mins. what is the solution to this?
	() Thanks