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Well, IMHO, I think it is just peer pressure. People want to just say that they own a Samsung - not a "cheap" Micromax or Karbonn mobile. That contributes to the sales. For me - I really cannot bring myself to buy a mobile phone for 30k - something a Micromax can give me for 15k. But each his own. |
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So innovation does get you places. And it also makes you sell your lower end phones. For example, in the comparison between 12K samsung and 12K micromax, a poster here brought up AMOLED discussion. Quite funny, because only high end phones from Samsung have AMOLED. Having a high end market also boosts your low end sales. Known fact. Quote:
See its all relative. Karbonn S5, Micromax canvas etc., all are flagship phones, but at a different price range. For example, we call the Sonata as Hyundai's flagship car. We don't say that Flagship car is a 5 crore Lambhorgini and so Hyundai should not sell its 20L car as flagship. Infact Hyundai Elantra cracked the US market by going head to head against the more expensive honda and Toyota, and then stealing their thunder. If Micromax and Karbonn do not screw up on the "service front", the next 10 years will see their rise to all over the world. However, I have seen, service is usually not part of the equation for most Indian setups, even if the Indian subsidiary of a foreign entity. Quote:
1. GSM bands - Micromax/Karbonn won't work in America 2. Barometer and other such sensors 3. Stylus 4. 2GB RAM 5. GLOSSNASS 6. Magnetic Compass 7. Atleast 8GB inbuild memory Then there is also the "suspect" quality. All phones are made in china, and when you go bottom shopping often you get poor quality. I want my phones to last 2-3 years. Maybe 4. Will Karbonn do that, I dunno. So updates etc., become important. These companies have to prove to the market that they are not shipping phones where charging port does not last the required 10,000 connect disconnect cycles. Or the headphone jack is poorly built. But then, now is use and throw culture and after 1.5 years, old is thrown out. So many do not notice. So the high end phones of Samsung can make sense if you need specialist features. But as far as low end phones of Samsung are concerned, I would rate their quality to be slightly better than those unbranded dhinchak chinese phones at gaffar market. I have owned some cheap samsungs, and they are rubbish in quality. Worse than Micromax/Karbonn etc., Last edited by tsk1979 : 28th October 2013 at 13:49. | ||||
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![]() See it won't be a 10K phone anymore. It will be a 20K phone! | |
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| ![]() With respect to the Tier 1 vs. Tier 2 brands, I just have one question - does a quad-core processor from MicroMaxx (of Mediatek) give similar performance to a quad-core processor from Samsung (say Exynos?) - assuming both are clocked at the same speed (say 1.5Ghz). For some reason, I think it is not so but just wanted to know the facts. Anyone here has any idea about this? |
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| ![]() No, CPU from Tier 1 supplier will perform better. 1. Will consume less power due to lithography process (E.g. : 28HPM , 20nm on Radar) 2. Better instruction set (Latest CPU from Mediatek is still A7, Even CPUs used in Galaxy S3 has A9, Nexus 4, S4 and above are A15) 3. Higher Memory bandwith between CPU and DDR3 It would be visible in games like Real Racing 3. Tier 1 Examples are Qualcomm, Samsung, Intel, Nvidia etc. Teir 2 Examples are Mediatek, Rockchip, Marvell etc. |
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![]() The C7-00 is built to last. It would take any abuse without any complaints. But I am not confident with the present day lumias because my 720 shattered its screen in its first fall itself, that too when it fell down from my lap. After having experienced various brands, I don't think that samsung build quality is bad. It can take majority of the falls with ease. Sir , don't judge a product just by its apperance alone. Quote:
![]() If you google the word FLAGSHIP it only means the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization. What is wrong in samsung terming its latest high end offering as 'flagship' ? ![]() Last edited by VishnuNarayanan : 28th October 2013 at 17:45. | ||
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| ![]() Indian brands cant crack the western market untill unless they deliver on service and innovation front. They have to do what Hyundai did with their cars. I dont understand how brands like Micromax can succeed in long term. Indian brands are not capable of designing and manufacturing a decent phone all by themselves. What they do is brand and market Chinese reference designs. So essentially they are a marketing company. Now lets take for example New canvas and Nexus 4. Which phone would u buy? The price is almost same. So any company which can innovate will succed in todays fast changing scenario. Im not against any product but its the reason why foreign companies sell most of the cars as well as mobile devices. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Need to take part in an android app making competition. Any innovative app ideas which are still not on playstore? |
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Specifically the ability to send a decrypt package, the person on the other end doesn't need to install axcrypt. I can send an encrypted package including the decryption program by email,chat,torrent, dropbox etc. | |
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![]() There is a big bunch of such people who just buys a flagship to beat the crowd around them. So for such people, brand and the name "flagship" matters. No matter what, they'll simply swap it for the next year's flagship too. When it comes to usability there are no much differences between brands other than some of them. For eg, I am still to find a usable stylus equipped Note series replacement from any other manufacturer. Last edited by bhp_maniac : 29th October 2013 at 09:16. | |
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