[DaptChatterjee]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

Not that I am into evil cameras - I prefer kinder and good hearted ones - but isn't a6500 the latest?

A6100 is the latest generation, an upgrade on a6000. Both are in Sony's aps-c entry level segment (like a Nikon D3500).
A6500, on the other hand, is the flagship aps-c with IBIS etc. (like a Nikon D500), but has been replaced by A6600.

[nilanjanray]

Originally Posted by DaptChatterjee

A6100 is the latest generation, an upgrade on a6000. Both are in Sony's aps-c entry level segment (like a Nikon D3500).
A6500, on the other hand, is the flagship aps-c with IBIS etc. (like a Nikon D500), but has been replaced by A6600.

Thanks, looked up DPReview. Sony APS-C names are a little confusing, they don't play around with digits like others do. I should have kept shut re the model. Oh well :-)

[RoadFiend]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

NThough, it is a good idea to buy one-two generation older depending on the use case.

Although a6600 is latest in that apsc range, I saved considerable $ and didn't lose much wrt a6600, by getting the older a6400. I bought the 18-135mm as a kit lens combo, at a much lower price than it'd be as a standalone lens. This lens is actually a versatile travel lens, and the inbuilt OSS compensates somewhat for the camera IBIS that a6400 doesn't have (and a6600 does). AF and eye AF etc., are superb even in this relatively older camera.

[nilanjanray]

Originally Posted by RoadFiend

Although a6600 is latest in that apsc range, I saved considerable $ and didn't lose much wrt a6600, by getting the older a6400. I bought the 18-135mm as a kit lens combo, at a much lower price than it'd be as a standalone lens. This lens is actually a versatile travel lens, and the inbuilt OSS compensates somewhat for the camera IBIS that a6400 doesn't have (and a6600 does). AF and eye AF etc., are superb even in this relatively older camera.

Yes, that is what I hinting at. As long as it is good enough - for your use cases - then it might not make sense to buy the latest and greatest at a significant premium, especially if budget is a constraint.

Edit: 18-135 in an APS-C model has a very versatile focal range. After having gotten into more specialist lenses, I often miss a light and flexible zoom, especially when walking or driving around without any specific purpose, or when hiking in the mountains. Since I am from the Nikon world, the Z 24-200 would be a decent bet, when I take the plunge into mirrorless. And no, I don't pay much credence to absolute sharpness and naysayers who don't like a f/6.3 lens. If I am shooting landscape, I would probably be at f/8 - f/11 anyway.

[Thad E Ginathom]

A newcomer to Sony cameras, whether APS-C (or Full Frame) really needs to ask google for a timeline of the models. They did not set out to make the progression simple!

Do this, in conjunction with the compare/review sites, to determine the right model. No budget constraint? a6600 would be the answer. Low budget? a6000 or 60001. I have a feeling that the a6000 might not be available new now: could still be a great second-hand buy.

[nilanjanray]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

A newcomer to Sony cameras, whether APS-C (or Full Frame) really needs to ask google for a timeline of the models. They did not set out to make the progression simple!

Do this, in conjunction with the compare/review sites, to determine the right model. No budget constraint? a6600 would be the answer. Low budget? a6000 or 60001. I have a feeling that the a6000 might not be available new now: could still be a great second-hand buy.

No budget constraint would be the Sony Alpha 1 for Sony folks ;-), a monster of a camera! The reason I screwed up re the APS-C ones is because I follow what is happening in the full frame, high end bracket, but not APS-Cs anymore. Someday I want to slowly transition out from DSLRs to a hybrid model. Main consideration would be compatibility of batteries and cards (I use XQD now, but I guess CFExpress would be the future), since that helps a lot when traveling - interchangeable cards and batteries and also chargers. Will sell my D500, keep the D850, and go for a Z9. Already have my safari gear planned out, I know exactly what I want. A Z9 with a 400mm f/2.8 + TC, and a D850 with a 70-200 f/2.8. Now, need to figure out how to arrange the funds and justify lol. Anyway, this is aspirational + partial GAS. Sigh. Someday.

Edit: There have been amazing advances in AI. E.g. all these eye focus modes. I do believe that they don't matter much for someone who knows how to use DSLR AF - but we humans can't keep up for long, as far as action shooting is concerned. One or two years, these AI driven stuff in the mirrorless cameras would have democratised action shooting big time. And created shots that would have been very very difficult in the past. And I am not even getting into video screen capture. What would human shooters be left with? Composition and abstract stuff? What would happen to serious photography? Food for thought. Perhaps only creativity and time spent in the field would be the differentiators.

[satyabrata.dash]

Originally Posted by furyrider

I have shortlisted Sony Alpha 6000Y which comes with 16-50 and 55-210 mm kit lens. I intend to use this for still photos and this will be my primary travel camera. My use scenarios will be landscapes, family parties, the usual street photography. I understand that this is a 7-year old model and is considered ancient by today's standards. One thing all the reviews point out is that this camera has super sharp autofocus and is still very capable even today. I do not intend to use it for videos. Hence, I am okay with the lack of 4K.

You wont find the A6000 anymore in the market, it has been long superseded. However, if you find it anywhere, you might get a discount. I got the kit with 2 lenses, long back for 47k. Otherwise, go for the Canon. It has a larger support landscape in terms lenses/accessories and are generally cheaper. In the Sony landscape, even a tiny lens cap may cost more than Rs. 1000. When I wanted to go for Bird Photography, I had to re-invest in a Canon System, because Sony lenses are always expensive(although quality of glass are good) than Canon/Nikon systems.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

No budget constraint would be the Sony Alpha 1 for Sony folks ;-), a monster of a camera!

Yes, indeed! But some us choose APS-C for size and weight as well as lower cost. For me, it was both, as well as not expecting to use a camera even 10% of how it has turned out. Not only did take me but a short time to swap my a6000 for an a6500, but that has 37,000 on the clock now, in just a couple of years!

Without much of a clue, I stumbled into Sony APS-C. If I had had some small clue, might I have saved up a bit more and gone A7-something?

Haha covid. If someone had told me that, for a couple of years or more, I would not be carrying my camera further than across a road, I might well have not been bothered about the extra weight of a FF body.

Originally Posted by satyabrata.dash

You wont find the A6000 anymore in the market, it has been long superseded.

Not that long discontinued, but yes, something for the low-budget seeker in the used market now.

However, if you find it anywhere, you might get a discount. I got the kit with 2 lenses, long back for 47k.

I started with that. They soon became the two lenses that I use least, almost never. As I just said, I didn't have much clue at that time, about what I needed/wanted.

In the Sony landscape, even a tiny lens cap may cost more than Rs. 1000.

Nearly 500 for a third-party knock-off for a 49mm

[Kelvinator]

I recently upgraded my complete camera kit. I had a nikon D5600 which was a really good camera but was slow for fast paced and low light wildlife photography and birds in flight. I had options of moving to
1. Sony a9 + 200-600mm
2. Nikon z6+ 300mm 2.8 + 1.4 tc

Although sony has really good autofocus system compared to what nikon offered, but with sony’s telephoto prime lenses costing as much as 9-10l, i
decided to go for nikon. I love shooting with my new system. Plus having tried sony camera’s i feel they their ergonomics could be improved. I really liked nikon for the camera ergonomics plus the fact that the I could buy a 300mm prime.

[ampere]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

Edit: There have been amazing advances in AI. E.g. all these eye focus modes. I do believe that they don't matter much for someone who knows how to use DSLR AF - but we humans can't keep up for long, as far as action shooting is concerned. One or two years, these AI driven stuff in the mirrorless cameras would have democratised action shooting big time. And created shots that would have been very very difficult in the past. And I am not even getting into video screen capture. What would human shooters be left with? Composition and abstract stuff? What would happen to serious photography? Food for thought. Perhaps only creativity and time spent in the field would be the differentiators.

Have you seen the new Canon R3? The new beast was recently unveiled. 24MP but extremely fast and and super high price tag. I am hoping Canon will release a 7D like product line soon (An R7 perhaps?) For now I am liking the R5/R6 line of what I see.

[nilanjanray]

Originally Posted by ampere

Have you seen the new Canon R3? The new beast was recently unveiled. 20MP but extremely fast and and super high price tag. I am hoping Canon will release a 7D like product line soon (An R7 perhaps?) For now I am liking the R5/R6 line of what I see.

Yes, been reading about it. Another monster with latest AI tech! The eye control stuff is especially interesting.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

... The eye control stuff is especially interesting.

I have long joked that every new model from Sony has the world's fastest bestest autofocus and soon there will be one that focuses on what we are thinking about, before we even pick up the camera. Eye-controlled focus is actually a big step in that direction

Ahem, One in the eye for Sony from Canon!

I stumbled into Sony APS-C. If I had thought about it longer or researched it deeper, I might have ended up with some other brand. But here I am, with quite an investment, for me, and I am not going to even contemplate brand jumping. And I'll never be in the market for a 5-lakh camera anyway, whoever makes it: more than my whole kit is worth. But this eye control thing is the most interesting techie advance for a long time.

[nibedk]

Originally Posted by Kelvinator

I recently upgraded my complete camera kit. I had a nikon D5600 which was a really good camera but was slow for fast paced and low light wildlife photography and birds in flight. I had options of moving to
1. Sony a9 + 200-600mm
2. Nikon z6+ 300mm 2.8 + 1.4 tc

Although sony has really good autofocus system compared to what nikon offered, but with sony’s telephoto prime lenses costing as much as 9-10l, i
decided to go for nikon. I love shooting with my new system. Plus having tried sony camera’s i feel they their ergonomics could be improved. I really liked nikon for the camera ergonomics plus the fact that the I could buy a 300mm prime.

A Sony 200-600 costs around 1.5 L. Why are you comparing a 600 mm prime from Sony with a 300 mm prime from Nikon. A Nikon 600 mm F4 costs 9 L as well. Similarly the 300 mm primes from both Nikon and Sony are prices around 5 L

Your use case required a Sony A9 rather than a Nikon Z6. Missed chance I would. The A9 is a better camera compared to Z6 and for the type of photography you are into the gadget matters as well.

[amol4184]

Hello, where do you guys purchase used camera gear (if at all) here? I am aware of OLX but want to stay away especially when dealing for expensive electronics besides not much choice.
I was looking for small-ish fixed FL camera like Panasonic LX100 (I or II), Fuji X100F, Ricoh GR II or even Olympus Pen-F (I have a collection of m43 lenses - DJI 15mm f1.7 goes very well with it) but I didn't find any of these. Sometime ago there was X100F on JJMehta but certainly that's not the only place to purchase/sell photo gear?

[Hunter3077]

Hello guys
I presently use a Nikon D500 and my primary use is for wildlife photography. Been thinking about upgrading to a mirrorless system and have zeroed in on the Nikon Z6 ii. I am assuming that I can use my present lens gear coupled with the FTZ adapter. Wanted some real world user reviews from members here. Also would be open to any alternative suggestions. This deal is for around 1.9 lacs with the 24-70 mm Z lens. Thanks