[sidindica]

The all new scorpio will be out in late 2014.

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by sidindica

The all new scorpio will be out in late 2014.

Please tell me where you DONT have your "contacts"!

Now, as expected, the new Scorpio will take atleast 2 years to come since it is just in the drawing boards now. We can expect test mules by late 2013.

I assume, till then TATA Storme will have a ball.

[manson]

Originally Posted by himanshugoswami

the service guys are fed up with the number of complaints coming in the vehicle- mostly to do with electronics and the suspension- and truth be told, I did count at least 5 XUVs in the service center with their dash board ripped open- not a pretty sight for a car lover :(

No surprises here really! We had predicted electronics to be Mahindra's single most major hurdle with the XUV5OO in our official review, and unfortunately we were pretty much spot on!

I was wondering if we have any data to check if the electronic glitches do indeed feature on the export spec Scorpio & XUV 5OOs like they do here?

Originally Posted by raj_5004

Now, as expected, the new Scorpio will take atleast 2 years to come since it is just in the drawing boards now. We can expect test mules by late 2013.

I assume, till then TATA Storme will have a ball.

Old Scorpio or new, it is going to take something special from Tata to make a dent in the 4000 units strong monthly volumes of the Scorpio!

[ampere]

Is M&M production ready? Some time back Pawan Goenka also talked about the mini SUV being release by end of the year.
(Some how he did not prefer to call it mini-Xylo).

And then M&M have their hands on marketing Rexton and Korando. Can they have all these items in one go? Have they given
thoughts about their dealer network? (Both awareness and count).

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by manson

Old Scorpio or new, it is going to take something special from Tata to make a dent in the 4000 units strong monthly volumes of the Scorpio!

I agree.

Judging by the review of the new TATA Storme, it was not as exciting as I thought it would be. But then, we cannot disagree the fact that the Storme is indeed a new gen product when compared to the decade old Scorpio.

I do understand that Scorpio is currently the leader in that segment and though I am not very sure, I do feel that, if priced correctly (maybe 30-50k more than Scorpio), the Storme MAY affect the Scorpio by some margin.

[Santy]

Originally Posted by scopriobharath

The news in confirmed. Mahindra is working on an All new Scorpio. Autocar June issue mentions the same.

They would be using the same mechanicals (MHAWK Et all) but body and features will be revisited. So we should see a better looking, better handling and LIGHTER Scorpio. - Yes lighter. The main aim of M&M research valley is to make the scorpio lighter to make the engine more fuel efficient & perform better.

The New Scorpio will house the 1.5 lit engine with dual turbo

[SS-Traveller]

Originally Posted by Santy

The New Scorpio will house the 1.5 lit engine with dual turbo

Duh...?! A 2-tonne vehicle with a 1.5 litre engine?

[scopriobharath]

Originally Posted by Santy

The New Scorpio will house the 1.5 lit engine with dual turbo

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

Duh...?! A 2-tonne vehicle with a 1.5 litre engine?

Santy - Is this news from Mahindra's stables?

I seriously doubt whether a 1.5 twin turbo will power the scorpio. heck indica itself has/had a 1.6 engine.

There were plan of a 2.2 twin turbo for the xuv. My best bet would be that it would be launched as a trial run on the scorpio and then if its successful they might launch on the XUV.

if 1.5 liter is tuned to keep up pace with the scorpio's weight, it would have to be tuned hard and it might lead to engine re-bore at 1,50,000 kms

[man_and_machine]

off topic (excuse): Mahindra seems to have a production line of new innovations. The works in the Scorpio is atleast not more than the storme. Where are the TATAs?

[CARDEEP]

Originally Posted by Santy

The New Scorpio will house the 1.5 lit engine with dual turbo

Will this (1.5L 3 cylinder, 100ps engine)be powerful enough to pull the vehicle & the Scorpio brand image/ legacy? This would be like blown away by the Storme & accepting defeat without a fight.

I believe the new Scorpio could be the 2.2L diesel with more power 160ps (or more) & bigger than current Scorpio, which will reposition it above the monocoque XUV500, & throw a challenge to Tatas.

Originally Posted by scopriobharath

Santy - Is this news from Mahindra's stables?

I seriously doubt whether a 1.5 twin turbo will power the scorpio. heck indica itself has/had a 1.6 engine.

There were plan of a 2.2 twin turbo for the xuv. My best bet would be that it would be launched as a trial run on the scorpio and then if its successful they might launch on the XUV.

if 1.5 liter is tuned to keep up pace with the scorpio's weight, it would have to be tuned hard and it might lead to engine re-bore at 1,50,000 kms

FYI Indicas/ Indigos never had 1.6L either diesel or petrol... with the rest though.

[scopriobharath]

Originally Posted by CARDEEP

FYI Indicas/ Indigos never had 1.6L either diesel or petrol... with the rest though.

Yeah ! My Bad. Palio had a 1.6 and indica had a 1.4.

1.5 litre for a 2+ tonne vehicle is too underpowered. If its loaded to the brim with 7, it would definetly struggle on ghats. the Current 2.2 mhawk with a twin turbo should be attractive on the scorpio.

[godhatesmyguts]

What about the topic of the thread ?? Will there be a diwali launch ??

[tushky]

Originally Posted by CARDEEP

FYI Indicas/ Indigos never had 1.6L either diesel or petrol... with the rest though.

but i have seen Indica vista with 1.5L engine once

[swiftnfurious]

Originally Posted by godhatesmyguts

What about the topic of the thread ?? Will there be a diwali launch ??

I don't even think there will even be a Scorpio refresh this year. Unless they are facing too much heat from the new entrants, I doubt anything new will happen.

[CARDEEP]

Originally Posted by scopriobharath

Yeah ! My Bad. Palio had a 1.6 and indica had a 1.4.

1.5 litre for a 2+ tonne vehicle is too underpowered. If its loaded to the brim with 7, it would definetly struggle on ghats. the Current 2.2 mhawk with a twin turbo should be attractive on the scorpio.

No issues buddy, we are all here to share information & learn a thing or two about automobiles from others .

BTW, Palio/ Siennas/ Petras had the 1.9l MJDs & not the 1.6L MJDs, & few of my family friends had the diesel Palios (in Punjab of course). Fiat's 1.6L diesel is yet to come to India in affordable trim (Fiat/ Suzuki/ Tata/ GM, etc).

Originally Posted by tushky

but i have seen Indica vista with 1.5L engine once

They never launched the under test 1.5L Diesel or Petrol. All they had on sale were 1.4L Petrols (75bhp & 100bhp), 1.4L Diesels (TDI & DICOR with few CC difference between them) & 1.2L Petrol.

I believe we are way off topic, & must get back to new Scorpio, the test mules of which haven't been seen anywhere till date unfortunately. Hopefully, Mahindra can surprise all by doing a very fast testing & launch.