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Sorry but this is a bit over the top in my view. The problems with the DSG are found on only one VAG model sold in India - the Superb 1.8 TSi AT. There have undoubtedly been several Team BHPIans (including myself) who have had the mechatronics fail on them. In every case, the part has been replaced free of cost by Skoda, even when the failure took place outside warranty. To my knowledge, all these cars that have experienced failures are 2010 or earlier models, and I have not seen a reported failure in a 2011 or later model (correct me if I am wrong here). There are also several other 2010 Superb owners who have not had a failed mechatronics. Yes, VW has not recalled the car, and yes from a marketing standpoint, they would have been well advised to have announced a formal warranty extension. But to call them racist or bigoted for being stupid from a marketing perspective is not done. And to say that they do not attend to problems is, based on the evidence, plain wrong. Last edited by Hayek : 8th June 2013 at 15:34. |
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| ![]() This months ACI has the review of the Polo GT TSi and it mentions about the reliability issues of this DSG gearbox. However, the article also mentions that VW had made changes to the sensor's or connector's of the mechatronics in 2011 which was the reason for the frequent failure's. I cannot remember exactly and I don't have the magazine with me now to refer to it but the article clearly mentions about the changes made to improve reliability. I guess not just the Polo TSi but also the new Superb's must have this improved gearbox. |
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| ![]() The link mentions that cars made between June 2008 and September 2011 were recalled. So safe to assume VW made changes in 2011.. |
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| ![]() Nice to know that Volkswagen has made some changes to their DSG gearbox in Polo GT TSI. Also its a great thing that car manufacturers in India are recalling vehicles to solve reliability issues. |
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| ![]() Hi, I have been following the DSG debate across different ownership threads and I have one question - Has anyone experienced a DSG failure a second time i.e. post-replacement. The reason I ask is that I am contemplating a late 2011 model Superb which has done about 27,000 km. the gearbox has already been replaced. Also, in terms of price, would 11-12L be a fair estimate for a well maintained 2011 superb in Delhi ? |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() If it can fail once it can fail twice. There are no guarantees. Though if you buy a original part then they will give you another 2 years warranty on it. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offici...review-16.html On the above pasted thread someone speaks about his friends Superb's DSG unit failing twice do a search on TBHP with Twice and DSG Failure. The price should be a max of 10L for a Petrol Superb from 2011. The new superb is also round the corner. On a different note, I had a Laura Diesel DSG AT, that required the Turbo to be replaced Twice in 70,000 Kms. |
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It is not a major worry if one is mostly within city limits but if one makes a lot of big outstation trips the prospect of being stranded in the middle of nowhere is not enticing. | |
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| ![]() Thank you for the vote of confidence. Will certainly update if I go ahead with the deal. |
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| ![]() aren't these DSG gearboxes and even some Octavia manuals basically 'drive by wire' which mean that the gear isn't actually connected mechanically but is connected to a PCB (mechatronic?) which in turn instructs the transmission case to upshift or downshift. Also unlike the ECU this PCB does not have the luxury of sitting inside an airconditioned cabin underneath the dash or besides the battery but is situated in a 'hot zone' besides the transmission itself. Seems like a design flaw issue, like many of the other parts in the Skoda setup. In a quest to 'overengineer', what they have actually done is to pass on a flawed design to the customer and in CYA mode called it overengineering, which in first case if they had rightfully engineered it wouldn't have required to go through many unwanted steps. Case in point is the oft failing Skoda fuel pumps which is a design flaw due to poor designing of fuel tank which necessitates 2 pumps. |
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| ![]() Hi All, I had previously posted on the Skoda Octavia thread detailing the failure of our Skoda Suberb DSG gear box for the second time, however this seems to the appropriate thread to post on. The details of the issue can be found on the path mentioned below http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offici...review-29.html Its been 12 days and we are still hearing from the service advisor at Autobahn Kurla that the DSG order has been placed and will take few days more before it arrives. Add to the fact that the service advisor was telling me that the DSG failed due to shorting of the fuse box issue which was caused by rats eatting some wires. Hence, we might have to bear the consumables and labour cost while the 2 lac DSG box wil be replaced in warranty. I Lost my cool and fired him saying that its due to humidity and type of oil and not cause of shorting of the fuse box. Can the DSG box fail fue to a fuse box error? Have shot an mail to Mr. Sudhir Rao as advised by fellow Team BHPians to expedite the process, hope it helps. Will keep you guys posted. Cheers, Balckbolt |
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| ![]() Update! After writing to Mr. Sudhir Rao and Skoda customer care on 3rd December at 6 pm, we were shocked to recieve a call from Feroze the SA from Kurla service center that the car was ready and will be delieved at 4 pm, the very next day. This inspite of recieveing a mail from him on 3rd December, saying that the DSG part had yet not arrived and will take a few more days. He really fumbled when asked to explain this irony. ![]() Skeptical of the job done we took the delivery of the car. Now after a day the engine warning light is back on! What a disaster! I have absolutely no words to explain the way Skoda treats their customers. Again the car has gone back to the service centre. The pain of being a Skoda customer continues! |
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