Flop cars in our market

nbr · 27th June 2008, 18:24

[quote=thiyags22;882715]I feel the Vectra was launched too early in the market. At that time, the price at which it was launched for way too high, even for the InfoTech fellows.

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Vectra if launched again will definitely have takers. The looks are way ahead than most D-segemnt cars even today.

raj_5004 · 28th June 2008, 09:28

i had taken a TD of the vectra and the accord then. first it was the turn of the accord and i came out very impressed. but when i sat in the vectra, it just blew me off. the solid build and the german feel of the car was oh-so-nice! the huge list of electronics, the cosy ride quality and the super silent engine still rocks! wish the engine had a bit more performance to boast and the interiors should have been more jazzy or stylish. but still i loved the interiors. the seats were supremely comfortable and the dash was "different and functional to the core". i just love that car man.
also, many has cribbed about its styling but i still prefer its styling over the present gen accord. it looks terrific.

a bit of OT: a technician from GM told me that GM is planning to reintroduce the opel brand in india and come up with the latest corsa soon. i wish it happens!

D.V.R · 4th August 2008, 20:07

Can the Sumo Grande be considered as a Flop?

raj_5004 · 4th August 2008, 20:48

looking at its present sales, its certainy on the lower side, but i dont think its a flop!

agbenny · 4th August 2008, 21:12

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

looking at its present sales, its certainy on the lower side, but i dont think its a flop!

Poor sales means..its a Flop..right?

I saw one on the Roads in Coimbatore so far, But it had a KL registeration.

agbenny · 4th August 2008, 21:19

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

i had taken a TD of the vectra and the accord then. first it was the turn of the accord and i came out very impressed. but when i sat in the vectra, it just blew me off. the solid build and the german feel of the car was oh-so-nice! the huge list of electronics, the cosy ride quality and the super silent engine still rocks! wish the engine had a bit more performance to boast and the interiors should have been more jazzy or stylish. but still i loved the interiors. the seats were supremely comfortable and the dash was "different and functional to the core". i just love that car man.
also, many has cribbed about its styling but i still prefer its styling over the present gen accord. it looks terrific.

a bit of OT: a technician from GM told me that GM is planning to reintroduce the opel brand in india and come up with the latest corsa soon. i wish it happens!

Open Vectra (was on the Indian roads for quite a few months) was the best appealing car to me ever. I wish if I can own even a preowned.

I do not think Opel would reintroduced, as I think the plants are converted for Chevy products.

raj_5004 · 5th August 2008, 07:12

yes, the sales are very poor, but not negligible like the opel vectra. i heard the vectra sold only 14 units in 2 years! ask me, the grande is almost a flop, but i think not many would agree on this.

keeping fingers crossed that GM re-introduces opel in india...

simplyself · 5th August 2008, 13:34

Ambassador Nova was not a flop. It sold in good numbers.

I think it is too early to call Sumo Grande a flop. I am beginning to see the vehicle more frequently since last fortnight.

mshooli · 5th August 2008, 13:37

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Originally Posted by agbenny

Poor sales means..its a Flop..right?
I saw one on the Roads in Coimbatore so far, But it had a KL registeration.

I don't think so. Of late I have been seeing quite a few Grandes on Bangalore roads.

paddy77 · 5th August 2008, 14:10

my cousin took a test drive in the sumo grande-and said that it moves also complained that its CG(centre of gravity) is not correct! i was like what

. well i better believe him because he's in honda UK as a senior Test driver. he said overall the ride quality is mediocre-was not happy with it-rated 3/10.

Car-Agey · 5th August 2008, 14:13

Sumo Grande has started apearing on Delhi roads. I have seen 4 of them so far.

Well it looks impressive. Dont know why it is not selling? May be it will take time to establish itself.

simplyself · 6th August 2008, 10:55

Even Rhinos started appearing on roads in the south. I havent driven one so far but I have seen the interiors but was not impressed. Dont know the fate of the vehicle in the north where it was launched earlier.

Aditya · 6th August 2008, 12:23

Ambassador Avigo - People generally opt for the Grand or Classic models
Skoda Fabia
Mitsubishi Montero

MalluDude · 6th August 2008, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Rotorhead

4. Ambassador Nova(am not sure if it really was a flop)

Wouldn't agree here. Have seen plenty of them in the mid-nineties. You must remember that before Indica and others came out to rule the cab market, Nova's were there in multitude as Taxis.

Also would vehicles such as Sierra and Tata Estate classify as flops? At the time they were launched, they were seen as luxury vehicles, driven by film stars, and jewellery shop owners! And look at the equipment they had, I mean, I'd never seen or driven a vehicle with power steering or power windows before that

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These two vehicles laid the foundation for tata's foray into into passenger car market.

hell boy · 6th August 2008, 13:11

What do you say about the Contessa Diesel. I feel its a TORTISE.Only 58 BHP stock for a 2000cc engine.

27th June 2008, 18:24	#181
nbr BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MANGALORE/BALEHONNUR/DUBAI Posts: 438 Thanked: 47 Times View My Garage	[quote=thiyags22;882715]I feel the Vectra was launched too early in the market. At that time, the price at which it was launched for way too high, even for the InfoTech fellows. quote] Vectra if launched again will definitely have takers. The looks are way ahead than most D-segemnt cars even today.
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28th June 2008, 09:28	#182
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	i had taken a TD of the vectra and the accord then. first it was the turn of the accord and i came out very impressed. but when i sat in the vectra, it just blew me off. the solid build and the german feel of the car was oh-so-nice! the huge list of electronics, the cosy ride quality and the super silent engine still rocks! wish the engine had a bit more performance to boast and the interiors should have been more jazzy or stylish. but still i loved the interiors. the seats were supremely comfortable and the dash was "different and functional to the core". i just love that car man. also, many has cribbed about its styling but i still prefer its styling over the present gen accord. it looks terrific. a bit of OT: a technician from GM told me that GM is planning to reintroduce the opel brand in india and come up with the latest corsa soon. i wish it happens!
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4th August 2008, 20:07	#183
D.V.R BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney / Secunderabad Posts: 278 Thanked: 14 Times	Can the Sumo Grande be considered as a Flop?
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4th August 2008, 20:48	#184
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	looking at its present sales, its certainy on the lower side, but i dont think its a flop!
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5th August 2008, 07:12	#187
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	yes, the sales are very poor, but not negligible like the opel vectra. i heard the vectra sold only 14 units in 2 years! ask me, the grande is almost a flop, but i think not many would agree on this. keeping fingers crossed that GM re-introduces opel in india...
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5th August 2008, 13:34	#188
simplyself Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,051 Thanked: 621 Times	Ambassador Nova was not a flop. It sold in good numbers. I think it is too early to call Sumo Grande a flop. I am beginning to see the vehicle more frequently since last fortnight.
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5th August 2008, 14:10	#190
paddy77 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: pune Posts: 80 Thanked: 0 Times	grande TD my cousin took a test drive in the sumo grande-and said that it moves also complained that its CG(centre of gravity) is not correct! i was like what. well i better believe him because he's in honda UK as a senior Test driver. he said overall the ride quality is mediocre-was not happy with it-rated 3/10.
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5th August 2008, 14:13	#191
Car-Agey BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 344 Thanked: 54 Times	Sumo Grande has started apearing on Delhi roads. I have seen 4 of them so far. Well it looks impressive. Dont know why it is not selling? May be it will take time to establish itself.
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6th August 2008, 10:55	#192
simplyself Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,051 Thanked: 621 Times	Even Rhinos started appearing on roads in the south. I havent driven one so far but I have seen the interiors but was not impressed. Dont know the fate of the vehicle in the north where it was launched earlier.
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6th August 2008, 12:23	#193
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17,845 Thanked: 77,082 Times View My Garage	Ambassador Avigo - People generally opt for the Grand or Classic models Skoda Fabia Mitsubishi Montero
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6th August 2008, 13:11	#195
hell boy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 110 Thanked: 14 Times	What do you say about the Contessa Diesel. I feel its a TORTISE.Only 58 BHP stock for a 2000cc engine.
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