Flop cars in our market

grvanand · 1st February 2007, 18:21

Ford Endaveour, surprisingly no mention. Competitors sell much better.
Cedia, hardly see any though being so elegant.

satish_appasani · 1st February 2007, 18:26

Zen D is defnetely not a flop in south...atleast in AP i will call it a hit. The car was always sold at premium and even the resale price was very good. I believe Maruti made money on this car by it's sales in south and especially in AP.

When Maruti dropped this model due to revised pollution norms, there were many people rushing to the dealerships to get hold of the last few in stock.

One of the recent flops is Skoda Combi. So far i had seen only one car. Sales of Superb are on the raise.

kkr2k2 · 2nd February 2007, 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by grvanand

Ford Endaveour, surprisingly no mention. Competitors sell much better.
Cedia, hardly see any though being so elegant.

I dont think so.
may be the competitors out-sell in few cities.
but here in hyd the ford dealers complete rather exceede the targets set by the ford every month with ease.

kkr2k2 · 2nd February 2007, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by satish_appasani

Zen D is defnetely not a flop in south...atleast in AP i will call it a hit. The car was always sold at premium and even the resale price was very good. I believe Maruti made money on this car by it's sales in south and especially in AP.

i was shocked when some one put the zen D in the flop cars, the zen DI is a very popular model here in Hyderabad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by satish_appasani

One of the recent flops is Skoda Combi. So far i had seen only one car. Sales of Superb are on the raise.

did saw a combi in hyd??, cool. I thought that model was never launched in india like the skoda fabia..... heheheheee.
One thing I have noticed that skoda superb numbers have started to ggrow after the laura was released.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 2nd February 2007, 07:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkr2k2

i was shocked when some one put the zen D in the flop cars, the zen DI is a very popular model here in Hyderabad.

did saw a combi in hyd??, cool. I thought that model was never launched in india like the skoda fabia..... heheheheee.
One thing I have noticed that skoda superb numbers have started to ggrow after the laura was released.

Zen D was polpular here in the kerala too... No way you guys can call it a flop... The problem mainly was that Maruti couldnt meet the demand with the imported engine...

Superb was given a diesel only after mid 06... Thats why the sales figures are going up....

msdivy · 2nd February 2007, 08:23

Flop cars in the market:
1) Chevy SRV
2) Sonata Embera
3) Cedia
4) Maruti Versa
5) San Storm

Previously, I can think of:
Sipani cars, Maruti Grand Vitara, Baleno Altura.

supremeBaleno · 2nd February 2007, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by msdivy

Previously, I can think of: Sipani cars, Maruti Grand Vitara, Baleno Altura.

The Baleno sedan itself would have found a place here as a flop car, if not for the heavy price-cuts effected by MUL a few years ago, which made it a real VFM car and boosted sales. From a situation of "no one has one" in the years after its launch, it is today like "everyone has one".

owaiskm · 2nd February 2007, 12:23

Palio is a very good car but it is considered as the Biggest Flop car in India

moralfibre · 2nd February 2007, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by owaiskm

Palio is a very good car but it is considered as the Biggest Flop car in India

I wouldn't say the biggest flop car considering they had sales equivalent to the Swift when launched. Its only after customer and magazine reviews that the car went out to be a flop.

Minardi · 2nd February 2007, 13:52

there was this 'retro' variant of Zen, which was such a big flop that many of us here might not even remember it!

moralfibre · 2nd February 2007, 13:58

Minardi I think you are referring to the Zen Classic, are you?

Minardi · 2nd February 2007, 14:01

yes sir! i had even forgotten the name! launched around yr 1999. only reason i remember it was that a neighbour had it and used to get parked in the building compound. in fact that is the one i ever saw!

moralfibre · 2nd February 2007, 16:29

An auto magazine had posted a similar looking car from which the Classic was ripped off. There were no visible differences in both the models externally. I wonder why Maruti chose that car to clone.

amtak · 3rd February 2007, 19:00

That time Retro was in around the world. Hence, Maruti wanted to cash in on that, so now we can say that it was a Normal production "Limited" edition car...since its gone flop!!!!!

ballkey · 4th February 2007, 07:59

I think we need to keep different yardsticks for different cars.
Certain cars are decidedly niche-oriented, even the manufacturer does not expect to sell more than a few hundred a year!

For example, lets take the Chevy Forester and xTrail. Both of them are CBUs, even their manufacturers were purely experimenting with the market by launching these cars. So in that sense, I wouldnt really call them flops! To extend the movie analogy, think of them as Art films solely intended for Film festivals,awards and TV screenings. They shouldnt be compared to mass-market, economical offerings like Versa, Palio etc.

1st February 2007, 18:21	#106
grvanand BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 211 Thanked: 0 Times	Ford Endaveour, surprisingly no mention. Competitors sell much better. Cedia, hardly see any though being so elegant.
	() Thanks

1st February 2007, 18:26	#107
satish_appasani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,112 Thanked: 104 Times View My Garage	Zen D is defnetely not a flop in south...atleast in AP i will call it a hit. The car was always sold at premium and even the resale price was very good. I believe Maruti made money on this car by it's sales in south and especially in AP. When Maruti dropped this model due to revised pollution norms, there were many people rushing to the dealerships to get hold of the last few in stock. One of the recent flops is Skoda Combi. So far i had seen only one car. Sales of Superb are on the raise.
	() Thanks

2nd February 2007, 08:23	#111
msdivy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,815 Thanked: 2,826 Times	Flop cars in the market: 1) Chevy SRV 2) Sonata Embera 3) Cedia 4) Maruti Versa 5) San Storm Previously, I can think of: Sipani cars, Maruti Grand Vitara, Baleno Altura.
	() Thanks

2nd February 2007, 12:23	#113
owaiskm BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 33 Thanked: 0 Times	Palio is a very good car but it is considered as the Biggest Flop car in India
	() Thanks

2nd February 2007, 13:52	#115
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 413 Thanked: 15 Times	there was this 'retro' variant of Zen, which was such a big flop that many of us here might not even remember it!
	() Thanks

2nd February 2007, 13:58	#116
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Minardi I think you are referring to the Zen Classic, are you?
	() Thanks

2nd February 2007, 14:01	#117
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 413 Thanked: 15 Times	yes sir! i had even forgotten the name! launched around yr 1999. only reason i remember it was that a neighbour had it and used to get parked in the building compound. in fact that is the one i ever saw!
	() Thanks

2nd February 2007, 16:29	#118
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	An auto magazine had posted a similar looking car from which the Classic was ripped off. There were no visible differences in both the models externally. I wonder why Maruti chose that car to clone.
	() Thanks

3rd February 2007, 19:00	#119
amtak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!! Posts: 2,915 Thanked: 900 Times View My Garage	That time Retro was in around the world. Hence, Maruti wanted to cash in on that, so now we can say that it was a Normal production "Limited" edition car...since its gone flop!!!!!
	() Thanks

4th February 2007, 07:59	#120
ballkey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 425 Thanked: 35 Times	I think we need to keep different yardsticks for different cars. Certain cars are decidedly niche-oriented, even the manufacturer does not expect to sell more than a few hundred a year! For example, lets take the Chevy Forester and xTrail. Both of them are CBUs, even their manufacturers were purely experimenting with the market by launching these cars. So in that sense, I wouldnt really call them flops! To extend the movie analogy, think of them as Art films solely intended for Film festivals,awards and TV screenings. They shouldnt be compared to mass-market, economical offerings like Versa, Palio etc.
	() Thanks