Flop cars in our market

AirWind · 6th August 2008, 14:26

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Originally Posted by hell boy

What do you say about the Contessa Diesel. I feel its a TORTISE.Only 58 BHP stock for a 2000cc engine.

But the Conti was a seller, used to see a lot of them on the highways after the amby.

I guess only Trekker was the flop car from HM stables...

karanraheja · 6th August 2008, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Car-Agey

Sumo Grande has started apearing on Delhi roads. I have seen 4 of them so far.

Well it looks impressive. Dont know why it is not selling? May be it will take time to establish itself.

I think Tata has tried to improve the Sumo from the taxi image. I have spotted only a few Sumo Grande s on road. One of my friend who took a test drive was complaining about the cheap plastic interiors.

Jammy70 · 6th August 2008, 19:09

I have seen a few Grande on b'lore roads lately. Looks like the delay in hitting the roads was caused by the delay in launching the cheaper variants - when they launched, they had only the top-end version on sale, and I think it continued for a month or so.

When seen on the roads, though it looks impressive from the front, the rear is a let down; it just doesn't go with the 'macho' image the front portrays.

fx45 · 16th August 2009, 12:30

[quote=architect;879180]If sales is the criterion, then I would like to ask if these cars are FLOPs in your opinion:

1. Petrol Innova (same 1.8 l VVTi engine as Corolla, wasn't it?)

Regarding Petrol Innova's they had a 2.0L petrol vvti engine. and were surlley a flop
UNTIL
recently abou 3-4 months ago, a new taxi service in MUmbai, Star Taxi has appeard, they seem to have very big fleet of these Petrol Innovas, but i feel they are converted to CNG but stil sport a 2.0G badge at the back. SO suddenly a lot of petrol innovas are popping up on Mumbai roads.

Those innovas dont look used, they look brand new, maybe toyota offered a good deal to that taxi comapny to clear old stock off. These are pre-facelift models.

arin_12 · 16th August 2009, 12:46

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Originally Posted by karanraheja

I think Tata has tried to improve the Sumo from the taxi image. I have spotted only a few Sumo Grande s on road. One of my friend who took a test drive was complaining about the cheap plastic interiors.

Tata made image as a Yellow board only with the SUMO and the INDICA.

rageshgr · 16th August 2009, 15:40

What about the Chevorlet Forester? I have n't seen many. I think it looked better than the Tavera. And the spark? it is a great car but have not seen as many as I would like to have seen. Then comes the Daewoo Nubira and Nexia.

Tejas@perioimpl · 16th August 2009, 15:57

Even the volvo cars and the nissan ones are not seen too much in the market.
The Hyundai Terracan also flopped badly

FRgt · 16th August 2009, 16:30

Ford Fusion / Escort
Chevrolet Forrester / SRV / Aveo
Opel Vectra
Hyundai Terracan / Tucson / Elantra / Getz CRDI
Mahindra Armada Grand / Getaway
Tata Estate (The Sierra actually sold quite well)
Fiat Siena Weekend
Maruti Baleno Altura / Swift ZXi / SX4
Sipani All models

wanderhermit · 16th August 2009, 16:59

In my list the flop cars are:
1. Peugeot 309 in the mid-1990's
2. Daewoo Matiz
2. Fiat cars like Siena, Petra, Adventure, Uno

PS: Has anybody mentioned Peugeot 309 here before?

Thomas8700 · 16th August 2009, 18:23

can we include going to be flop cars in this list

but in case of full loaded to the brim car, opel Vectra was a real flop. the indian market wasnt ready for such a tech savy car.

to an extent mondeo too. atleast it sold some numbers. then there is the daewoo nexia!

rageshgr · 16th August 2009, 18:42

The Maruti 1000 ! I have seen some, not many.

Then there was an Alto 1.1 liter special edition which was discontinued very soon.

Oh I love this thread!

ajay99 · 16th August 2009, 18:48

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Originally Posted by rageshgr

The Maruti 1000 ! I have seen some, not many.

Then there was an Alto 1.1 liter special edition which was discontinued very soon.

Oh I love this thread!

I beg to differ,the ALTO1.1(or alto vxi) was not a flop by anymeans.
It was just withdrawn to make sure that wagonR sales zoom(period2001-2002)

Thomas8700 · 16th August 2009, 18:52

alto Vxi which released initially had the wagon r engine i guess.
still it was not a flop many bought it. but the lxi with the 800 engine sold so much and was insuch huge demand that maruthi themselves had to focus entirely on the 800 engined alto

rageshgr · 16th August 2009, 18:53

he he , but anyways did not sell much right. EDIT: many bought it? well good for it , if it is so!

jassi · 16th August 2009, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Thomas8700

alto Vxi which released initially had the wagon r engine i guess.
still it was not a flop many bought it. but the lxi with the 800 engine sold so much and was insuch huge demand that maruthi themselves had to focus entirely on the 800 engined alto

i think they killed the 5 speed 800 for this very reason

6th August 2008, 19:09	#198
Jammy70 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 164 Thanked: 143 Times	I have seen a few Grande on b'lore roads lately. Looks like the delay in hitting the roads was caused by the delay in launching the cheaper variants - when they launched, they had only the top-end version on sale, and I think it continued for a month or so. When seen on the roads, though it looks impressive from the front, the rear is a let down; it just doesn't go with the 'macho' image the front portrays.
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16th August 2009, 12:30	#199
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 384 Times	[quote=architect;879180]If sales is the criterion, then I would like to ask if these cars are FLOPs in your opinion: 1. Petrol Innova (same 1.8 l VVTi engine as Corolla, wasn't it?) Regarding Petrol Innova's they had a 2.0L petrol vvti engine. and were surlley a flop UNTIL recently abou 3-4 months ago, a new taxi service in MUmbai, Star Taxi has appeard, they seem to have very big fleet of these Petrol Innovas, but i feel they are converted to CNG but stil sport a 2.0G badge at the back. SO suddenly a lot of petrol innovas are popping up on Mumbai roads. Those innovas dont look used, they look brand new, maybe toyota offered a good deal to that taxi comapny to clear old stock off. These are pre-facelift models.
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rageshgr BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chennai/Vaikom Posts: 549 Thanked: 551 Times View My Garage	What about the Chevorlet Forester? I have n't seen many. I think it looked better than the Tavera. And the spark? it is a great car but have not seen as many as I would like to have seen. Then comes the Daewoo Nubira and Nexia. Last edited by rageshgr : 16th August 2009 at 15:43.
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Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,582 Times View My Garage	Even the volvo cars and the nissan ones are not seen too much in the market. The Hyundai Terracan also flopped badly
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FRgt BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: India Posts: 24 Thanked: 5 Times	Ford Fusion / Escort Chevrolet Forrester / SRV / Aveo Opel Vectra Hyundai Terracan / Tucson / Elantra / Getz CRDI Mahindra Armada Grand / Getaway Tata Estate (The Sierra actually sold quite well) Fiat Siena Weekend Maruti Baleno Altura / Swift ZXi / SX4 Sipani All models
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16th August 2009, 16:59	#204
wanderhermit BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Panchkula Posts: 198 Thanked: 151 Times	In my list the flop cars are: 1. Peugeot 309 in the mid-1990's 2. Daewoo Matiz 2. Fiat cars like Siena, Petra, Adventure, Uno PS: Has anybody mentioned Peugeot 309 here before?
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16th August 2009, 18:23	#205
Thomas8700 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: back in gods own country :) Posts: 118 Thanked: 0 Times	can we include going to be flop cars in this list but in case of full loaded to the brim car, opel Vectra was a real flop. the indian market wasnt ready for such a tech savy car. to an extent mondeo too. atleast it sold some numbers. then there is the daewoo nexia!
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16th August 2009, 18:42	#206
rageshgr BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chennai/Vaikom Posts: 549 Thanked: 551 Times View My Garage	The Maruti 1000 ! I have seen some, not many. Then there was an Alto 1.1 liter special edition which was discontinued very soon. Oh I love this thread!
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16th August 2009, 18:52	#208
Thomas8700 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: back in gods own country :) Posts: 118 Thanked: 0 Times	alto Vxi which released initially had the wagon r engine i guess. still it was not a flop many bought it. but the lxi with the 800 engine sold so much and was insuch huge demand that maruthi themselves had to focus entirely on the 800 engined alto
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16th August 2009, 18:53	#209
rageshgr BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chennai/Vaikom Posts: 549 Thanked: 551 Times View My Garage	he he , but anyways did not sell much right. EDIT: many bought it? well good for it , if it is so!
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