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Old 5th August 2023, 09:38   #151
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Re: Petroleum ministry panel: Ban diesel 4-wheelers in big cities by 2027

No way the grid can cater to that need. The last mile grid in many parts is so fragile that it trips often when Air Conditioner loads are switched on during the night which usually is rated at 1.5 to 1.8 KW for a 1.5 ton AC. Imagine the stress when people put their cars on charge on a 7.2 KW home charging.

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Can any member in power distribution industry say whether Indian power generation will be sufficient to cater electric car charging in almost every household that own a car in 2027?
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Old 5th August 2023, 09:41   #152
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Re: Petroleum ministry panel: Ban diesel 4-wheelers in big cities by 2027

My two cents - It's a welcome decision, one which is inevitable to ban diesel cars. My heart goes out to those who bought diesel vehicles recently

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Old 5th August 2023, 10:00   #153
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What a short sighted thought? What about the increase in the price of commodities due to increase in diesel prices for the trucks industry?
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Good move, Diesel pollutes several times more than petrol. Its high time.

The subsidy on Diesel should have been stopped a decade ago, IMO Diesel had one of the useless subsidy thanks to the bygone era "Socialist" Indian Government policies. The only people who benefitted from this are the already fat business men who never really bothered to pay the full tax but saved huge sums in diesel operated vehicles, both passenger/commercial and few diesel car owners.

While the tax paying aam junta riding two wheelers and petrol cars always had to pay a much higher cost compared to diesel which was a complete reverse of other nations. Good that, recently this is changing and diesel prices are almost same as petrol. I hope the tax on diesel is also increased even further, to keep the petrol prices reasonable, let diesel become costlier. This will help both the environment and the general public.
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Old 5th August 2023, 19:36   #154
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Re: Petroleum ministry panel: Ban diesel 4-wheelers in big cities by 2027

Its funny that few fellows already started mourning for people who bought diesel cars recently . First of all, people buy cars as per their needs and we should respect that.

Diesel cars ban solely depends on the arranging alternative infrastructure which in country like India is 20 years away. And till then Diesel heads will surely enjoy the sheer pleasure of driving their beasts .

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Re: Petroleum ministry panel: Ban diesel 4-wheelers in big cities by 2027

This is the graph I found from wikipedia.

From the graph, Indias power generation:
1991: ~300TWH
2011:~1000TWH( an increase of 3.33x compared to 1991)

Even if everyone buys EVs from today it will take 10years to reach ~50%(just a guess) EV fleet, and ~100% in 20 years. Even at 100% EV fleet, the additional energy required will be <20%, even if we say energy required increases by 50%, the additional energy required is just 1.5x.

Under 100% EV fleet condition, we will be shutting down atleast a dozen oil refineries in India and freeing up the energy requirements for running these refineries.

We normal people ignore many such above points, there is a consensus in research community that we should move to EVs.

We have started building Expressways, access controlled highways, 6 lane highways only in the last 20 years, setting up a robust grid requires very less effort than building these highways.

EVs are very energy efficient, so it's a fact that EVs and renewable future needs lesser energy, lesser minerals, lesser mining.


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