New Wagon R

ashutoshb · 31st December 2009, 18:49

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Originally Posted by ravi@64bhp

There are two real scoop pics printed in Overdrive, and the new Wagon-R is not any different from the current Wagon-R, except for some nice curves at front and back. The front more or less looks like the new Estilo, except that there is wide, narrow grill in the bumber too. There is no sideview pic.

Thats right. Conflicting reports on the next Wagon R. Overdrive's report seems to be more believable, because changing headlamps, bumpers is more like what Maruti does most of the time!

Here are the pics published in Overdrive's Jan edition:

tj123 · 31st December 2009, 19:37

Looks are almost the same ..only good thing to happen is the K-Series engine

rrnsss · 31st December 2009, 19:42

I for one had dismissed small cars for a long time , till such time I had to drive in the city. Now I am a changed man and I am in awe of the wagonR's city performance. I also love it's looks now because I have come to understand that it performs the way it does because of the way it looks. I dont think that it was designed to make it look ugly, it was designed for visibility, space, comfort and it just so happened that it looked like that when it had to satisfy the other requirements.

I really dont like the idea of a 3 cyl engine K series or not. I for one am hoping that they would keep the Wagon R as it is with it's 4 cyl 1.1 L engine. The reason being that I want to buy a Wagon R early next year and dont want to wait for an other 2 or 3 months because they are changing the engine/gear box of the car. I would not mind if they messed with the grill/bumper etc.

Fraz33r · 31st December 2009, 19:44

This can go as an estilo (facelift)upgrade, Why WagonR? It does make sense if it is fitted the new KB12 from the Ritz, Also currently the KB12 is doing great with the Ritz and has won many hearts with an allround performance in the Ritz.

SO as of now, Ritz and the Eeco will be having KB12,will be nice to see the new WagonR with the KB12. Otherwise does it make sense pitching the Estilo with the new WagonR?

ravi@64bhp · 31st December 2009, 20:20

I wish they put the detuned 1.2L engine that is going to do its duty in coming Eeco. Somehow, I too do not like the 3-pot KB10 998cc engine. Very bad to see only two engines in most of the Suzuki range.

When there is tallboy in the form of Estilo availabe with 1L engine, it does not make sense to make another tallboy with same engine. Come on Maruti, please give some powerful engine to Wagon-R, which makes sense.

blue_pulsar · 1st January 2010, 03:34

The W-R is getting fuglier. On one side, we see Swift, Splash, SX4, GV which are Suzuki's international models. On the other side, we see such models. I really don't understand Suzuki's strategy.

BurningHeart · 1st January 2010, 11:51

If they do not have a suitable upgrade, why bother getting an uglier, outdated design from another market? Beats me! Are they thinking it will help in getting larger volumes than what Wagor-R is piling up today? I don't think so.

BH.

arnabchak · 1st January 2010, 11:58

In one word, they are just making this product uglier and funnier.

Pathetic.I think India deserves more respect than this.

abhi413 · 1st January 2010, 12:16

This car looks like a suitcase! Finally, some competition for the Amby in the looks department

sidindica · 1st January 2010, 12:22

Autocar India Forum: 2010 wagon r facelift spy

bigger pics at link.

A disaster waiting to happen.

abhi413 · 1st January 2010, 12:47

Saw the link. Still wondering if it is the handiwork of the same company that showcased A-Star concept at Auto Expo 2008 :(

Neur0t0xin · 1st January 2010, 19:51

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When there is tallboy in the form of Estilo availabe with 1L engine, it does not make sense to make another tallboy with same engine. Come on Maruti, please give some powerful engine to Wagon-R, which makes sense.

Both the Wagon R and Estilo shared the same 4 pot 1.1 motor before the Estilo was relaunched with a facelift and the A-star's motor. So it does make sense if the WagonR is launched with the same A-star engine.

From those pictures, the front seems okay, an attempt at making the boxy Wagon look more round (But is that necessary? don't we all like the wagon as it is?) and why the big chrome strip above the license plate at the back - to blind someone who shines his headlights on it - only maruti can answer that.

IMO maruti could have gone and swapped the engine without any facelift, the WagonR would still sell, but the design department, happy with the recent estilo job desperately wanted to get their hands onto the WagonR - the result is in front of you.

trinadha · 1st January 2010, 20:28

oh my god this looks as flat as it could get.Let's see how far the facelit or faceflat goes ..In my opinion it could chase away the customers

ravi@64bhp · 1st January 2010, 22:49

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Originally Posted by Neur0t0xin

Both the Wagon R and Estilo shared the same 4 pot 1.1 motor before the Estilo was relaunched with a facelift and the A-star's motor. So it does make sense if the WagonR is launched with the same A-star engine.

Two tallboys with same specs and chasis does not make sense to me. It was like that before with 1.1L engine and that is why Estilo died. Still, the new Estilo is far behind the Wagon-R in sales.

I believe the detuned 1.2L engine from Eeco is a good choice to the new Wagon-R.

clevermax · 1st January 2010, 23:09

This is what MSIL should have also done instead of confusing everyone with newer launches and still keeping older ones.

What will they name the new one? WagonR Boxilo?

31st December 2009, 19:37	#47
tj123 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BLR Posts: 1,165 Thanked: 704 Times	Looks are almost the same ..only good thing to happen is the K-Series engine
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31st December 2009, 19:42	#48
rrnsss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 397 Thanked: 346 Times	Hope they keep the old wagon R atleast in spirit I for one had dismissed small cars for a long time , till such time I had to drive in the city. Now I am a changed man and I am in awe of the wagonR's city performance. I also love it's looks now because I have come to understand that it performs the way it does because of the way it looks. I dont think that it was designed to make it look ugly, it was designed for visibility, space, comfort and it just so happened that it looked like that when it had to satisfy the other requirements. I really dont like the idea of a 3 cyl engine K series or not. I for one am hoping that they would keep the Wagon R as it is with it's 4 cyl 1.1 L engine. The reason being that I want to buy a Wagon R early next year and dont want to wait for an other 2 or 3 months because they are changing the engine/gear box of the car. I would not mind if they messed with the grill/bumper etc.
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31st December 2009, 19:44	#49
Fraz33r BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boston/Mumbai Posts: 220 Thanked: 280 Times View My Garage	This can go as an estilo (facelift)upgrade, Why WagonR? It does make sense if it is fitted the new KB12 from the Ritz, Also currently the KB12 is doing great with the Ritz and has won many hearts with an allround performance in the Ritz. SO as of now, Ritz and the Eeco will be having KB12,will be nice to see the new WagonR with the KB12. Otherwise does it make sense pitching the Estilo with the new WagonR?
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31st December 2009, 20:20	#50
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	I wish they put the detuned 1.2L engine that is going to do its duty in coming Eeco. Somehow, I too do not like the 3-pot KB10 998cc engine. Very bad to see only two engines in most of the Suzuki range. When there is tallboy in the form of Estilo availabe with 1L engine, it does not make sense to make another tallboy with same engine. Come on Maruti, please give some powerful engine to Wagon-R, which makes sense.
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1st January 2010, 03:34	#51
blue_pulsar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,113 Thanked: 408 Times	The W-R is getting fuglier. On one side, we see Swift, Splash, SX4, GV which are Suzuki's international models. On the other side, we see such models. I really don't understand Suzuki's strategy.
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1st January 2010, 11:51	#52
BurningHeart BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 428 Thanked: 58 Times View My Garage	If they do not have a suitable upgrade, why bother getting an uglier, outdated design from another market? Beats me! Are they thinking it will help in getting larger volumes than what Wagor-R is piling up today? I don't think so. BH.
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1st January 2010, 11:58	#53
arnabchak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MH-04 Posts: 1,346 Thanked: 1,165 Times	In one word, they are just making this product uglier and funnier. Pathetic.I think India deserves more respect than this.
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1st January 2010, 12:16	#54
abhi413 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 215 Thanked: 118 Times	This car looks like a suitcase! Finally, some competition for the Amby in the looks department
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1st January 2010, 12:22	#55
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,902 Thanked: 8,348 Times	Autocar India Forum: 2010 wagon r facelift spy bigger pics at link. A disaster waiting to happen.
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1st January 2010, 12:47	#56
abhi413 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 215 Thanked: 118 Times	Saw the link. Still wondering if it is the handiwork of the same company that showcased A-Star concept at Auto Expo 2008 :(
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1st January 2010, 20:28	#58
trinadha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 244 Thanked: 22 Times	oh my god this looks as flat as it could get.Let's see how far the facelit or faceflat goes ..In my opinion it could chase away the customers
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1st January 2010, 23:09	#60
clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,112 Thanked: 2,897 Times View My Garage	This is what MSIL should have also done instead of confusing everyone with newer launches and still keeping older ones. What will they name the new one? WagonR Boxilo? Last edited by clevermax : 1st January 2010 at 23:13.
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