MMSC trackday on April 5th 2009, Post your confirmations here

Venom_rider · 21st March 2009, 01:32

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Originally Posted by iceman91

guys instead of renting tyres why don't you just buy a second hand set works out cheaper also I don't see the worry in using your current tyres! Yes you will lose a little more of its life than usual but is that such a big deal?
Most of us have upgraded tyres and they are never put to the test on the streets, this is where you can actually see it perform.. Just my view end of they day your money your tyres your choice

Guys, I've never been on the track before & hence these noob questions... Hope you'll don't mind.

I have not given away the old tyres when I replaced recently. The old ones are '05 JK (OEM on Esteem), these have seen 60K Kms but have about 2-3mm of thread left in them. Do you suggest I put these back on just for the day? I mean what risks am I taking here?

PS: Neo, Would you be there?

Cheers!
Goutham

iceman91 · 21st March 2009, 01:55

risks are:
sliding the car,losing control, tyre burst (in case of excessive heat)

but that can happen to any tyre main dependant being driving style and the power output of car.

rahul, sounds like a plan or get someone to sit with a camera in the passenger seat

yeah vikram, lets cal them too

mclaren1885 · 21st March 2009, 01:58

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Originally Posted by iceman91

rahul, sounds like a plan or get someone to sit with a camera in the passenger seat

Been there done that Amit. Videos are too shaky while cornering, its better to mount the cam on the dashboard. Let me see if I can come up with some mounting solution for the SX4.

Goutham, in my opinion you should just put your old tires and get the car to the track. I have run on far worse set of tires. I am sure Akshay will agree with me on that.

Venom_rider · 21st March 2009, 02:01

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Originally Posted by iceman91

risks are:
sliding the car,losing control, tyre burst (in case of excessive heat)

Wokay JK's... out you go!

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Originally Posted by iceman91

rahul, sounds like a plan or get someone to sit with a camera in the passenger seat

I am game!!!

Cheers!
Goutham

EDIT: Rahul just saw your post... Both you guys have confused me now LOL. Since this is my first time around the track, I guess I will not risk it & run with the XM1+ only. Racing Slicks (JKs) can wait for the next time I guess...

mclaren1885 · 21st March 2009, 02:15

Goutham, tires only act as a limitation to your ability to push the car harder. If you have crappy tires, the lesser speed you carry into corners, the earlier you must brake etc. You could literally run on bald tires and still manage to have a lot of fun provided you know the point at which you shouldn't be crossing the limits of the car and yourself.

IIRC, the best fun we have had so far on track was on Anush's puny esteem with literally no tires. Every corner was taken sideways and the music of squeeling tires to go with it.

Venom_rider · 21st March 2009, 02:27

I see your point buddy.
My only worry is that being new on the tracks, I may not really know "the point" (atleast for a few laps).
Ahh... May be I am getting all worked-up unnecessarily here. Lets cross the bridge when it comes

Howz your baleno doing BTW? All set to burn some rubber huh?

petrol_head · 21st March 2009, 11:16

@venom rider

Dude chill. Its a matter of 4-5 laps. You would kinda develop the line and your braking points and after that its only about knowing where the limit lies.

Its no big deal. Its not rocket science. You would feel absolutely at home in no time.

Cheers

v1p3r · 21st March 2009, 14:59

Muderator:

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

@ Experienced track day'ers:

Can we have a post on the minimum requirements, do's/don't at the track venue

What papers/documents should one carry? In original or photocopy? No one cares on track. But NH officials might.

Mandatory safety equipments in car etc. Can a vehicle without seat belts be allowed? (My Gypsy doesn't have ANY seat belts)No. You need 2 front seatbelts. And helmets with straps.

Food? Fuel etc..?? Whatever floats your boat or runs your car.

Cost Sharing: What would be the cost /person or /vehicle that people should be aware of. Fuel to and from Chennai -- highway driving most cars should give 15 if driven normally. On track, expect 8-9 from a Baleno or Vtec. Food, budget Rs 500. Driving at Rs 1000.

Any other thing that you would like to mention.Full trousers and full shoes mandatory. You may like to carry driving gloves if your palms get sweaty. Wear light cotton/linen since it will get hot and an airconditioned car is normally slower. Carry a basic first-aid kit and if you're on pre-paid, make sure you have enough currency. Make sure your brakes/clutch/tyres are ok.

Frankly speaking, I am clueless on what to expect and seeing the number of first timer (including me) expressing their interest, it would be good.

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Looks like you answered your own question.

If I am getting back to bikes (I am banned from riding by folks at home, the last time I decided to ride, it was a Ducati 749 after 06 SR). I would prefer it to have an engine that churns out numbers to the north of 80 horses atleast. A good enough a reason to kill myself, not otherwise

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How about that 100 bhp Honda that you rode briefly? And then pushed.

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Originally Posted by Killer

He he, who can forget gulzar lmao....that said those were probably some newbies puttering around on SBK's at the time, the fastest SBK times now are a good 10 secs+ per lap faster than the fully blown factory 2 strokes (Group C), they'd be out of sight after 1 lap

Actually, it was the regular group at the time, but since everyone was on their first track day, Mr Gulzar could paste around corners with 15 bhp while the 150 bhp guys had to be more careful.

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Originally Posted by ssjr0498

No da! I am still using the "Stock ECU", "Stock Intake" & the " Stock Cam".. didnt donate them!!! it was spec'd but not to Ritesh's but to Shan's car!!

~Shrey

Bugger, don't you have like an 8000+ rpm rev range? I thought you had the RD ECU.

mclaren1885 · 21st March 2009, 15:09

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

How about that 100 bhp Honda that you rode briefly? And then pushed.

How can I forget her? It was more pushing than riding actually. And burning of legs due to spilling of boiling coolant.

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Bugger, don't you have like an 8000+ rpm rev range? I thought you had the RD ECU.

Yeah! I heard he was running a D16 manifold too amongst other mods. Looks like he prefers to claim his car stock

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binz · 21st March 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

How can I forget her? It was more pushing than riding actually. And burning of legs due to spilling of boiling coolant.

Hmm I believe it was more of ME pushing.

mclaren1885 · 21st March 2009, 18:48

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Originally Posted by binz

Hmm I believe it was more of ME pushing.

That was just one day. Remember she was with me for a long time?

Coming back to topic, I remember having put up some videos of the track day on one of the earlier threads. Cant seem to find them. Maybe they would be of some help for everyone to know what to expect on track.

binz · 21st March 2009, 19:30

YouTube - trackday mmsc

mclaren1885 · 21st March 2009, 20:23

Here is another one. A must watch for all the people heading to track for the first time. Look at the map put out earlier by someone and try to memorize the turns. It helps a lot.

YouTube - In Car Video - MMSC Race Track, Chennai

ssjr0498 · 22nd March 2009, 14:14

Hats off to you guys man!!

Guru why don't you start off a detective agency..

Just kiddin yaar, Akshay that 8000+ stuff was only for the drags, now I'm back to stock with a 7100 rpm limit.

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Bugger, don't you have like an 8000+ rpm rev range? I thought you had the RD ECU.

Rahul, again, that was only for the drags, I am running stock. Btw, what are the other mods that your talking about yaar!!

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Yeah! I heard he was running a D16 manifold too amongst other mods. Looks like he prefers to claim his car stock

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mclaren1885 · 22nd March 2009, 17:19

Shrey, I heard your car was very similarly setup to Wolf's except for the ITB's. So I am guessing upped CR, headwork,TB,cams,ECU?

21st March 2009, 01:55	#197
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	risks are: sliding the car,losing control, tyre burst (in case of excessive heat) but that can happen to any tyre main dependant being driving style and the power output of car. rahul, sounds like a plan or get someone to sit with a camera in the passenger seat yeah vikram, lets cal them too
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21st March 2009, 02:15	#200
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Goutham, tires only act as a limitation to your ability to push the car harder. If you have crappy tires, the lesser speed you carry into corners, the earlier you must brake etc. You could literally run on bald tires and still manage to have a lot of fun provided you know the point at which you shouldn't be crossing the limits of the car and yourself. IIRC, the best fun we have had so far on track was on Anush's puny esteem with literally no tires. Every corner was taken sideways and the music of squeeling tires to go with it.
	() Thanks

21st March 2009, 02:27	#201
Venom_rider BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 242 Thanked: 256 Times View My Garage	I see your point buddy. My only worry is that being new on the tracks, I may not really know "the point" (atleast for a few laps). Ahh... May be I am getting all worked-up unnecessarily here. Lets cross the bridge when it comes Howz your baleno doing BTW? All set to burn some rubber huh?
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21st March 2009, 11:16	#202
petrol_head BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madras Posts: 234 Thanked: 60 Times	@venom rider Dude chill. Its a matter of 4-5 laps. You would kinda develop the line and your braking points and after that its only about knowing where the limit lies. Its no big deal. Its not rocket science. You would feel absolutely at home in no time. Cheers
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21st March 2009, 19:30	#207
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	YouTube - trackday mmsc
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22nd March 2009, 17:19	#210
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Shrey, I heard your car was very similarly setup to Wolf's except for the ITB's. So I am guessing upped CR, headwork,TB,cams,ECU?
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