re: Honda Civic Independence : CNG'd & Completed 80k on the odo @Arvi and @Skdking thank you for your kind words.
I had given the car for a 60k major service last week. The odo has crossed 67k mark. Last oil change was done in Feb at around 58k decided to go ahead with the service a 1k earlier. Touchwood no major problems with car except that it’s jerking a bit mostly in CNG. This has happened more so after last time I got the spark plugs changed at Suraj auto gas. I have to give them the car next week (for 2 days this time) to resolve the jerking problem. Jerking issue
Initially I was under impression the ignition coils were on their way out and that was the reason for the jerks etc. Bhpian SaurabhKum suggested that I should avoid replacing the coils and get the spark plug gap adjusted properly. Also I noticed the jerking is not much on petrol, infact on a proper warmed up engine the car is smooth on petrol but does jerk and is at the verge at stalling in CNG mode at times. I did notice some shuddering in the morning today on a cold engine but I am hoping it’s just a bit of morning sickness for the car. Suraj had mentioned to me earlier that they would need to do ECU setting to resolve the jerk issue. Bill details
The total bill came to 10,555 Rs. This included oil change, oil filter change, transmission oil change, brake fluid change etc. I could have done away with the transmission fluid but I found the oil used while changing the clutch in December was not upto the mark and the gear shifts did not felt smooth and were a bit notchy. After the oil was replaced it feels a bit better than before. Along with the above mentioned items the throttle body was also cleaned along with injector cleaning & a HDS (Honda diagnostic) scan. I had also asked them to change the brake fluid which I believed was never changed for the 4+ years the car was with me. Thankfully Honda did not report any need for disc skimming or pad replacing which I thought might be needed. Actually I would feel some shuddering of the steering wheel while driving downwards on a slope and I would hit the brakes above 55Kmph. This happened occasionally so I guess the disc replacement for now is not needed. I also bought in a new air filter for Rs 400 prior to sending the car to Honda. The OE filter which Hass sells costs 1100 Rs so that’s a saving of Rs 700. Test drive and reported issues
In my last services I had complained to Honda regarding a metallic thunk which could be heard when driving over potholes when the wheel was mostly at an angle. ie while turning. This time too I reported the same issue so my Hass advisor sent me along with a technician for a test drive. We drove over some rough surfaces for a while but the sound was not apparent during those drives. Even I took the wheel and tried but again the sound was not very evident to the technician even though I could make it out. We drove for around 30 mins and the technician stopped the car to inspect the suspension. He arrived at the conclusion since the shocks were new as I had mentioned this to him he does not see any issue with the suspension and possibly some CNG part was loosely fitted and causing the issue. I decided to leave it as such and take it up later when the problem becomes more apparent as it was getting difficult to diagnose same without opening up the entire front end. Honda too did not report anything during service that something was amiss.
The auto tensioner noise was something I had asked to be looked into even during the last service. Again my Hass advisor refuted the same that it’s not loud enough to warrant a change and that we can carry on for now. So I took his word and decided to drop the issue for now. He did however mention that the a/c compressor bearing was making some noise and might need some looking into. When I asked him how much it would cost, he quietly whispered it’s better to get it done from outside :-)
So I have driven the car for 30K+ kms. 10k on petrol and 20k+ on CNG. Let’s do some math.
Cost of CNG fitting – 57K
Kms done – 20K+
Running cost if above 20k was done in purely petrol with an estimated & optimistic average of 13.5 kmpl and average fuel price 68 Rs it would have cost me 20000/13.5 = 1481 litres of fuel X 68 Rs = 100740 Rs
For CNG running cost for 20k at an average of 20Km per Kg and CNG price of Rs 43.45 is 20000/20 = 1000 Kgs of CNG X 43.45 = Rs 43450. So the difference is RS 57250. I can safely say that I have broken even with the CNG. Let me know if you guys think otherwise as maths is not my thing. I would also like to mention that I use up a 1000 Rs of petrol every month. We can safely deduct a 1000 kms from the 20k done and recalculate for purely CNG run and the cost still comes out at around 41k rs. Yes I do that so the car does not get used to being run on CNG only and also has a decent run on petrol as longevity is what I am expecting out of this car. I want to keep it as long as possible and hope I don’t have to spend the earth to maintain it.
Below are some random pics of the car.
Odo reading at time of service.
Details of the bill.
Random pics.
Last edited by sumeethaldankar : 23rd August 2015 at 09:02.
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