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asethi · 1st July 2009, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by thirst4torque

Yes, thats what the manual says. But it is good for the engine's health if the oil is changed every 5000Km. The rest is all about keeping the car in tip top condition. Most enthusiasts here follow the interval of 5K Km for servicing and oil change.

Well I don't agree on this. Changing the oil in half the interval won't affect much except being heavy on pocket! The same engine in Palio/Punto has service interval more than 10K kms, and Maruti is in fact playing safe with 10K kms.

dushmish · 2nd July 2009, 13:50

Hi Eddy,

Not changing the oil filter on the first filter is not a good idea at all. The oil change has a lot metal deposits that come off the new engine. Oil filter could get clogged. On the 4th service though, it is ok just to change the oil and not the filter. :-)

Dear Sethi, you are right that the service interval is 10,000 km. I would personally want to stick to that. The kind of pot holed roads we drive on, the car would come apart if I wait that long for service. The new feel goes every 5000 km or so. So I stick to 5000 km interval. Regarding oil, I was using Mobil Delvac and wanted to use a better oil. So I changed at 15,000 km. During the process I interacted with tech support at Castrol, Mobil and Chevron. They all said any drive less than 16 km is considered harsh on engine. All my drives are in fact shorter. I thought it to be prudent to change oil sooner than prescribed. I does pinch on the pocket but the benefits are far more in the long run.

Where do I get the additive? Help!

Dushmish

Milind · 4th July 2009, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by dushmish

Hey Jaggu, I just got my Dzire ZDI serviced. The 4th service (first paid one) at 15,000 km. There were no complaints. The work done was as listed below:

1. Bodywash and interior cleaning.
2. There was a sign of a loose or leaking oil seal on the top of engine near the air filter. It was a loose nut, tightened.
3. Got all the suspension nuts tightened.
4. Got oil changed to Mobil MX. The filter was not changed though. They insisted that it need not be changed till 20,000 km.

The total cost was 900 Rupees exclusive of the oil. The oil costed 218 Rs per liter.

I have read in your posts about the diesel additive (3M or Maruti approved). How often it should be added? How does it help?

And TBHPians in Mumbai, where and for how much can I get it in Mumbai? I live in Goregaon (E).

Ciao,
Dushmish

For diesel Additive

Using Normal Diesel + Elf addtive AC 2010 (20ml for 40 ltr diesel fill)

Drive has become smoother. am told the average goes up about a 1-1.5 km.

TOTAL ADDITIVES & SPECIAL FUELS - AC 2010

was told that this should help clean the carbon deposits in the Engine ? Not sure how this can be check thou

Milind

Gill · 15th July 2009, 10:50

There is an audible whine noise(Engine) in first, second, third gear, it's more audible while shifting the gears.Is it noraml? If not, what would be the cause and remedy?

Jaggu · 15th July 2009, 11:18

It might be the turbo whine, does it happen at certain RPM'?

Gill · 15th July 2009, 11:44

The whine is audible once the gear in engaged and car is moving, on idle RPM i don't hear whine! once it reached 1500+ on RPM meter the noise is audible.

Jaggu · 15th July 2009, 12:36

I think its turbo whistle, you can check if there are any leaks in the turbo plumbing just to be on the safe side.

Gill · 15th July 2009, 13:30

OK. Is Turbo Whistle a matter of concern or a normal sound?
What is the checklist to check the leakages in turbo plumbing?Or should i get full turbo assembly checked?

shantyrocks · 15th July 2009, 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill

There is an audible whine noise(Engine) in first, second, third gear, it's more audible while shifting the gears.Is it noraml? If not, what would be the cause and remedy?

it is surely the turbo whine gill...

Jaggu · 15th July 2009, 18:31

@gill
1) Not a concern its normal
2) If its very high noise, then check the fastners at the end of the plumbing/tubes. But then you will have other issues like rough engine, more smoke and erratic idle etc if there is a leak

abishekkalro · 15th July 2009, 18:44

my car has just done the 3rd service . I get the turbo whine sound too, and its typically over 2k rpm.

surprising i noticed the "Whhiiinnne" sound only a week after the 3rd service

srikant · 16th July 2009, 11:40

The whine is not too much to be realy audible unless you switch off the audio system and are driving in a silent environment. Very less people come across it.

Gill · 16th July 2009, 17:03

The car is ICS-less since last 14 days, that might be a reason that the turbo Whine is now audible!

sriturl · 16th July 2009, 17:04

Here is one more source to procure mobil oils from.

2)M/s Ponpure Chem Located near Tumkur Road.Contact Person Mr Sandeep
@9448397389
This is in addition to the one which Jaggu already mentioned in one of the previous posts.
1)SpeedAway Ltd located near JC Road.Contact Person Mr Prasad @9980551408

Jaggu · 17th July 2009, 10:40

Sachin my service adviser from RNS has joined as works manager @ Nexus, #62, 80ft Road, Opp MSR Hospital, BEL Rd, RMV 2nd stage, 2nd block. Maybe useful for people in that side of town, also any feedbacks on the garage might be helpful for me.

2nd July 2009, 13:50	#782
dushmish BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 418 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Hi Eddy, Not changing the oil filter on the first filter is not a good idea at all. The oil change has a lot metal deposits that come off the new engine. Oil filter could get clogged. On the 4th service though, it is ok just to change the oil and not the filter. :-) Dear Sethi, you are right that the service interval is 10,000 km. I would personally want to stick to that. The kind of pot holed roads we drive on, the car would come apart if I wait that long for service. The new feel goes every 5000 km or so. So I stick to 5000 km interval. Regarding oil, I was using Mobil Delvac and wanted to use a better oil. So I changed at 15,000 km. During the process I interacted with tech support at Castrol, Mobil and Chevron. They all said any drive less than 16 km is considered harsh on engine. All my drives are in fact shorter. I thought it to be prudent to change oil sooner than prescribed. I does pinch on the pocket but the benefits are far more in the long run. Where do I get the additive? Help! Dushmish
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15th July 2009, 10:50	#784
Gill BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohali Posts: 701 Thanked: 16 Times	There is an audible whine noise(Engine) in first, second, third gear, it's more audible while shifting the gears.Is it noraml? If not, what would be the cause and remedy?
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15th July 2009, 11:18	#785
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	It might be the turbo whine, does it happen at certain RPM'?
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15th July 2009, 11:44	#786
Gill BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohali Posts: 701 Thanked: 16 Times	The whine is audible once the gear in engaged and car is moving, on idle RPM i don't hear whine! once it reached 1500+ on RPM meter the noise is audible.
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15th July 2009, 12:36	#787
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	I think its turbo whistle, you can check if there are any leaks in the turbo plumbing just to be on the safe side.
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15th July 2009, 13:30	#788
Gill BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohali Posts: 701 Thanked: 16 Times	OK. Is Turbo Whistle a matter of concern or a normal sound? What is the checklist to check the leakages in turbo plumbing?Or should i get full turbo assembly checked?
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15th July 2009, 18:31	#790
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	@gill 1) Not a concern its normal 2) If its very high noise, then check the fastners at the end of the plumbing/tubes. But then you will have other issues like rough engine, more smoke and erratic idle etc if there is a leak
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15th July 2009, 18:44	#791
abishekkalro BANNED Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20 Thanked: Once	my car has just done the 3rd service . I get the turbo whine sound too, and its typically over 2k rpm. surprising i noticed the "Whhiiinnne" sound only a week after the 3rd service
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16th July 2009, 11:40	#792
srikant BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 489 Thanked: 12 Times	The whine is not too much to be realy audible unless you switch off the audio system and are driving in a silent environment. Very less people come across it.
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16th July 2009, 17:03	#793
Gill BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohali Posts: 701 Thanked: 16 Times	The car is ICS-less since last 14 days, that might be a reason that the turbo Whine is now audible!
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16th July 2009, 17:04	#794
sriturl BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: KA-03 Posts: 524 Thanked: 91 Times	Here is one more source to procure mobil oils from. 2)M/s Ponpure Chem Located near Tumkur Road.Contact Person Mr Sandeep @9448397389 This is in addition to the one which Jaggu already mentioned in one of the previous posts. 1)SpeedAway Ltd located near JC Road.Contact Person Mr Prasad @9980551408
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17th July 2009, 10:40	#795
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	Sachin my service adviser from RNS has joined as works manager @ Nexus, #62, 80ft Road, Opp MSR Hospital, BEL Rd, RMV 2nd stage, 2nd block. Maybe useful for people in that side of town, also any feedbacks on the garage might be helpful for me.
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