Tata Safari 2.2L at 1.5 lakh kms. Reclaiming continues without extended warranty UPDATE: Now Sold !

zucchero · 8th May 2008, 16:32

i own a 3 ltr safari.i have a strange feeling that system d is not working for me.earlier when i used to use it i had starting problems in the morning.due to some reason i stopped using it.the engine became more noisy,was not smooth in running and started giving black smoke BUT there was no starting problem.
now i have again switched back to system d.engine runs much smoother now but the starting problem is BACK.i think its bcoz of the system d

jkdas · 10th May 2008, 23:49

YouTube - Tata Safari 2.2L ,rpm/kmph read

110kmph @ 2500rpm.

chaxy · 11th May 2008, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatcanthisbe

on the highway maybe ... in the city with 100% AC this is normal
my 2.2 is at 12- 12.5

I am getting 11.5 in city with AC (3 tank fulls). Scheduled for 1st service on 13thmay. i feel 11 kmpl itself is quite good for a 2 ton vehicle of this size and power. 14th i am going on a 1000 kms round trip to nellore.

jkdas · 11th May 2008, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaxy

I am getting 11.5 in city with AC (3 tank fulls). Scheduled for 1st service on 13thmay. i feel 11 kmpl itself is quite good for a 2 ton vehicle of this size and power. 14th i am going on a 1000 kms round trip to nellore.

same here. Always between 11-11.5kmpl.

kb100 · 16th May 2008, 22:54

Met the BEAST today - no I am not talking about JK here!

Ripped her through some very narrow, twisty, and SANDY interior Cherthala roads!! You should have seen it - there was sand EVERYWHERE!

Amazing vehicle - its like lounging in your favourite sofa - And I absolutely loved the way everyone gave way - felt like royalty!!!

And yes - saw the famous "RED-no-no-NO-its MAROON" mats as well!

Went well with the biege interiors I thought!

jkdas · 19th May 2008, 12:53

Two months and 7250 Kilometers.

Mileage : 10-11.5kmpl .
10 when its just 3rd and 4th gear and when you lead traffic on highway. 11-11.5 in city with AC 100%.

Engine: The krr noise is there from 1800-2100 rpm. Noticed that its only in 3rd and its just for 2000-2100 rpm when in 4th.

Interiors: Because its beige, I am worried and hence its 100% AC full time and hence I guess the interiors are still neat.

Rattle: A bit which I guess is coz I play the music tad loud and it caused some plastic to rattle within the door.

There is a chirpy sound due to either tail gate or co-driver seat when its not used.

Will give it for oil change and to fix the sound later this week.

jkdas · 23rd May 2008, 15:12

Odo @ 7410

Gave my Safari for oil change and to check the engine noise.

I was charged , 2530Rs in total . The split up:

Part no: 254718130115 Assembly Oil Filter: 161.78Rs
Part No: 62120601615 Lamp WSW 12V 5W: 41.78Rs
Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs
Part No: BG105 BG Quick Clean Engine Flush , 674Rs (.325L)

The number plate illumination bulb costs just 6rs if you buy from Tata spares shop. I had oen with me but didnt know how to put it. The service guy found that bulb kaput and changed it for me! emm, Impressed.

I drove Safari with a supervisor with me as I wanted the engine noise sorted. He was hearing this for first time in a Safari.He said he has heard similar sound in Dicor Indica/Indigo. Later on service engg or so asked me to bring the Safari next week so that they can swap with another ECU and check, as the Supervisor thinks the sound is louder than normal.

kingshukt · 23rd May 2008, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

I drove Safari with a supervisor with me as I wanted the engine noise sorted. He was hearing this for first time in a Safari.He said he has heard similar sound in Dicor Indica/Indigo. Later on service engg or so asked me to bring the Safari next week so that they can swap with another ECU and check, as the Supervisor thinks the sound is louder than normal.

Please keep us updated on the noise front.

Though I am not so sure as to whether a ECU change will do the trick.

There are too many Safaris with the noise

.

kingshukt · 23rd May 2008, 15:51

[quote=jkdas;840357]The number plate illumination bulb costs just 6rs if you buy from Tata spares shop. I had oen with me but didnt know how to put it.
quote]

What is a oen, please ? Is it a type of bulb ?

I think the number plate bulb is a capless bulb.

SumitB · 23rd May 2008, 15:55

oen is probably a typo. He means OEM?

jkdas · 23rd May 2008, 16:40

[quote=kingshukt;840409]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

The number plate illumination bulb costs just 6rs if you buy from Tata spares shop. I had oen with me but didnt know how to put it.
quote]

What is a oen, please ? Is it a type of bulb ?

I think the number plate bulb is a capless bulb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumitB

oen is probably a typo. He means OEM?

its a typo:P its was supposed to be 'one'

and yes,its capless

trrk · 23rd May 2008, 16:59

[quote=jkdas;840357]Odo @ 7410

Gave my Safari for oil change and to check the engine noise.
Hi,

> Part No: BG105 BG Quick Clean Engine Flush , 674Rs (.325L)

I am sure the above was extra.

> Part No: 62120601615 Lamp WSW 12V 5W: 41.78Rs

Which bulb is the above?

I had to change only one rear bulb in my Safari during its life with me.

jkdas · 23rd May 2008, 18:16

[quote=trrk;840488]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Odo @ 7410

Gave my Safari for oil change and to check the engine noise.
Hi,

> Part No: BG105 BG Quick Clean Engine Flush , 674Rs (.325L)

I am sure the above was extra.

> Part No: 62120601615 Lamp WSW 12V 5W: 41.78Rs

Which bulb is the above?

I had to change only one rear bulb in my Safari during its life with me.

Rear number plate one. And I wanted them to use the flush. Seems they use it by default these days.

CAn someone comment on the oil used? Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs

trrk · 23rd May 2008, 19:12

Hi,

> Rear number plate one. And I wanted them to use the flush. Seems they use it > by default these days.

If you had asked for it, fine. Is it really needed?

They have charged 41 odd for a bulb that costs 6 in tata motor spare part shop?

> CAn someone comment on the oil used? Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil
> CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs

15w40hp engine oil - hp 5.50 @ 151.88 835.34
279018130106 oil filter indigo 1 @ 149.14

The above was the items put in my Marina in its last service @ 40000kms about 10 days back. Your oil at 165 is just Rs 13 per litre costlier. Plus your oil filter at 161.78Rs is 12.64 more.

What is the oil change interval? Mine had a oil change every 8000kms and a checkup at 4000kms.

dadu · 23rd May 2008, 19:50

Oil used is of correct specification but the flush could have been avoided till 15-20k running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

CAn someone comment on the oil used? Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs

8th May 2008, 16:32	#361
zucchero BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: faridabad/rourkela Posts: 250 Thanked: 0 Times	i own a 3 ltr safari.i have a strange feeling that system d is not working for me.earlier when i used to use it i had starting problems in the morning.due to some reason i stopped using it.the engine became more noisy,was not smooth in running and started giving black smoke BUT there was no starting problem. now i have again switched back to system d.engine runs much smoother now but the starting problem is BACK.i think its bcoz of the system d
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16th May 2008, 22:54	#365
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,556 Thanked: 23 Times	Met the BEAST today - no I am not talking about JK here! Ripped her through some very narrow, twisty, and SANDY interior Cherthala roads!! You should have seen it - there was sand EVERYWHERE! Amazing vehicle - its like lounging in your favourite sofa - And I absolutely loved the way everyone gave way - felt like royalty!!! And yes - saw the famous "RED-no-no-NO-its MAROON" mats as well! Went well with the biege interiors I thought!
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19th May 2008, 12:53	#366
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	Odo @ 7250 Kms Two months and 7250 Kilometers. Mileage : 10-11.5kmpl . 10 when its just 3rd and 4th gear and when you lead traffic on highway. 11-11.5 in city with AC 100%. Engine: The krr noise is there from 1800-2100 rpm. Noticed that its only in 3rd and its just for 2000-2100 rpm when in 4th. Interiors: Because its beige, I am worried and hence its 100% AC full time and hence I guess the interiors are still neat. Rattle: A bit which I guess is coz I play the music tad loud and it caused some plastic to rattle within the door. There is a chirpy sound due to either tail gate or co-driver seat when its not used. Will give it for oil change and to fix the sound later this week.
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23rd May 2008, 15:12	#367
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	Oil change @ 7400Kms Odo @ 7410 Gave my Safari for oil change and to check the engine noise. I was charged , 2530Rs in total . The split up: Part no: 254718130115 Assembly Oil Filter: 161.78Rs Part No: 62120601615 Lamp WSW 12V 5W: 41.78Rs Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs Part No: BG105 BG Quick Clean Engine Flush , 674Rs (.325L) The number plate illumination bulb costs just 6rs if you buy from Tata spares shop. I had oen with me but didnt know how to put it. The service guy found that bulb kaput and changed it for me! emm, Impressed. I drove Safari with a supervisor with me as I wanted the engine noise sorted. He was hearing this for first time in a Safari.He said he has heard similar sound in Dicor Indica/Indigo. Later on service engg or so asked me to bring the Safari next week so that they can swap with another ECU and check, as the Supervisor thinks the sound is louder than normal.
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23rd May 2008, 15:51	#369
kingshukt BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 450 Thanked: 10 Times	[quote=jkdas;840357]The number plate illumination bulb costs just 6rs if you buy from Tata spares shop. I had oen with me but didnt know how to put it. quote] What is a oen, please ? Is it a type of bulb ? I think the number plate bulb is a capless bulb. Last edited by kingshukt : 23rd May 2008 at 15:53.
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23rd May 2008, 15:55	#370
SumitB BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Shillong Posts: 989 Thanked: 265 Times	oen is probably a typo. He means OEM?
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23rd May 2008, 16:59	#372
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,113 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	[quote=jkdas;840357]Odo @ 7410 Gave my Safari for oil change and to check the engine noise. Hi, > Part No: BG105 BG Quick Clean Engine Flush , 674Rs (.325L) I am sure the above was extra. > Part No: 62120601615 Lamp WSW 12V 5W: 41.78Rs Which bulb is the above? I had to change only one rear bulb in my Safari during its life with me.
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23rd May 2008, 19:12	#374
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,113 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	Hi, > Rear number plate one. And I wanted them to use the flush. Seems they use it > by default these days. If you had asked for it, fine. Is it really needed? They have charged 41 odd for a bulb that costs 6 in tata motor spare part shop? > CAn someone comment on the oil used? Part No: OILEMS1000 Diesel Oil > CH4 15W 40 EXXON MOBIL SUPER 1000TM, 7.7L: 1270Rs 15w40hp engine oil - hp 5.50 @ 151.88 835.34 279018130106 oil filter indigo 1 @ 149.14 The above was the items put in my Marina in its last service @ 40000kms about 10 days back. Your oil at 165 is just Rs 13 per litre costlier. Plus your oil filter at 161.78Rs is 12.64 more. What is the oil change interval? Mine had a oil change every 8000kms and a checkup at 4000kms.
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