Indigo CS TDI - 40,000Kms done. Edit: SOLD

bullboy · 10th June 2008, 11:03

Does the DICOR CS has a higher mileage than TDI ?

svsantosh · 10th June 2008, 11:16

Hi all,

I missed one day and find my thread as long as rope - thanks all for your inputs.

I am going to do a Answer ALL here...

1) Yes, day by day the bearings are setting in and I can feel to drive it around 1500-1800RPM, BOOST is above 2K though. I am sure after 1 service it should improve.

2) FE - after the 1st day tank fill did around 200Kms, still a good way to the go less than half way mark. Anyways not bothered till 2-3K KMS until it settles down.

3) using heater control for AC chill is a good idea, will experiment.

4) GArage updated.

5) Pwer widw - Auto COP, does a good job, I am a bit sceptical about its installer though, Need to show to a autocop mechanic (company walla), feels like the motor isnt getting the full power while going up.

6) Got the Manual updated with CS Details fully.

7) TWO funny things - B Pillar has a sticker for air pressure recomend - reads Indigo Marina - 27 27 for all 4 ----- engine timing cover also has a sticker reading Indigo Marina with some bar codes and a engine# matching mine, must feel good to have one engine fitting 3-4 car models!!!!

8) I drove a ALTO for 5 years with 90/100 bulbs setup and badly missing it - but CS has got the fog lamps to help me out. Surely going for the 90100 though.

9) Spent the entire MONDAY at Anwar's Auto Fusion - Kormangla - Bangalore - got the following setup.

-----ICE Setup-----
HU - Pioneer 3050UB (over from Alto)
Amp - JBL 4Ch - GT5 - A604 (New)
Front - JBL Compo - GTO507C (New)
Rear - JBL CoAxials- 6*9 937's
Scoshe EFX wiring - Sound Dampners for front doors.
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Also got Auto Cop central Locking setup - Not Connected to Indicator blinkers, Siren Disconnected and Reverse Gear siren also not connected. ONLY ONLY Door lock and unlock.

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Total Installation - ICE + Ctrl Lock - 6000Rs (Includes rear wood plank, 1 RCA Cable (i had other), sound damping)

Auto Cop - 4200Rs

Compos and Amp - 9650 (I kno...Wait - this includes A Buyback of 1000Rs for my JBL 4" from Alto front, and a 2Ch Sony Amp for 1500Rs)

TOTAL Price - 19,850. (ICE+AutoCop)

Sence of having a GREAT ICE (really) and a lazy approach to secure the door locks (PRICELESS)

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----------EDIT----------- ICE Pics follows in some time----------

svsantosh · 11th June 2008, 10:42

Njoy the ICE Install and AutoCop Central Locking install photos.

Done on 9-June-2008, Bangalore at Anwar/Thouqueer's Auto Fusion, Koramangla. Specs and cost in previous post.

greenhorn · 11th June 2008, 10:53

why'd you settle for 5" comps. You could have gotten away with 6 inchers on spacer rings

Also , have you done something to the rear tray?

svsantosh · 11th June 2008, 13:23

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

why'd you settle for 5" comps. You could have gotten away with 6 inchers on spacer rings

Also , have you done something to the rear tray?

well I insisted to keep it stock, probably why its stock ... whats the difference between the 5 and 6" comps?

the stock fiberglass rear tray is gone... plz wait for a more clearer pic - the one here is a wood plank custom made to fit the indigo/ca series. and the rear stop light is cut and made to fit here...

the stock one would have vibrated itself to death on the volumes i listen to !!!!

greenhorn · 11th June 2008, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by svsantosh

... whats the difference between the 5 and 6" comps?

extended LF response ( more low_bass !) , since there is greater cone area

svsantosh · 11th June 2008, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhorn

extended LF response ( more low_bass !) , since there is greater cone area

ok... and the price?

greenhorn · 11th June 2008, 16:10

i think the price difference should be minimal ~500 rs

svsantosh · 12th June 2008, 15:02

500 Rs.. ok never mind I am having a blast with the current setup. So money;s is well spent.

---------- Update---------

I was driving back with better half back to home from office yesterday, listening to a mild AR Rehman number, suddenly - a HUGE bang from the speakers, (rear). i pulled over, and pushed the codriver seat forward and saw the AMp light was off, there was a mild crackle in the speakers before that bang - I immediately took of the HU panel to make sure nothing works - and checked out the amp and all spekers for any burnt smell or something like that. nothing - so I left it there and decided to check it in day light.

Drove to Anwar's in morning and he still wasnt there - I explained the issue to one more installer - who did the work actually - and found the problem ASAP. If you look at the install pics a few posts earlier - you will notice the speaker output wire very close to the Seat frame... there was one fouling with one of the Steel seat frames while driving over bad roads. So it was effectively shorting out when ever it touched the frame.

I got the frame covered with plaster so that it doesnt foul any more - and took a real long TD till hosur and back - nearly 70Kms over VERY VERY bad roads and at high Volume and feel the problem is sorted out.

I was also assured the JBL does a Auto Trip every time it senses a short - there are 2 inbuilt fuses for the AMP and 1 more near the battery compartment. So he said there will be no damage to the amp unit.
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Keep watching...

spadival · 12th June 2008, 15:19

Congrats Santhosh, I am sure your boss at the office is feeling just as jealous as shown in the CS ad

bullboy · 12th June 2008, 15:25

Santhosh ,How is the NVH levels of CS?

svsantosh · 13th June 2008, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by spadival

Congrats Santhosh, I am sure your boss at the office is feeling just as jealous as shown in the CS ad

trust me - If not jealous - He sure is appreciative of TATA and VFM

He is currently a 1.6 Sport owner and that 60+ Price/Litre in bangalore is sure hurting everyone - He is a Bhpian too - (Boss, if you see this please feel free to quote your thoughts)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullboy

Santhosh ,How is the NVH levels of CS?

Road noise nil due to underbody treatment from day1 - so dont know how it feels without one - try asking crosscap - the CS GLS (petrol) owner. Inside the body - the codriver seat is squeaky over bumps - must get it fixed in 1st service. And the Idling noise is Loud (Accept it), am not sure how to kill that in cabin noise - but while driving at 1500RPM + the noise is very negligible for a car of this class. But 2 JBL ovals in rear and 2 JBL 5-1/4 comps in front sure help to kill any noise (LOL)

The ride is something I am very very happy about - its super soft & smooth , TATA has recomended 27 pressure on all 4 tyres - must be helping the sodt ride factor. And may be the lesser rear overhang compared to the Regular Indigo must be helping matters.

Looks like TATA has got a winner in its hands. Hope to see many more on the steets soon.

greenhorn · 13th June 2008, 11:45

the idling NVH of the TDi is annoying , but once the turbo kicks in, it becomes very rev happy,till upto about 4k rpm, and even though it is loud, i wouldn't call it noise

trrk · 13th June 2008, 14:59

Hi Santosh,

> And the Idling noise is Loud (Accept it), am not sure how to kill that in
> cabin noise

Except for music, nothing else will reduce the idling noise. The DICOR is equally vocal (or more) in this respect. The latter scores on driveability over the TDi.

> The ride is something I am very very happy about - its super soft & smooth

What I felt too in my short test ride. Even for the short distance, I could feel the difference.

Can you try the following and tell me whether you feel any difference:

Crank the engine to start it as soon as the heater light goes off (you may be doing this now).

Crank the engine to start it about 10 seconds after the heater light goes off.

Thanks.

> after 300Kms now the needle is just on the half way mark (after major city + AC always) - looks like still around 15 mark - pretty Ok for me for a new
> car.

That is good mileage. It could be more than 15 also. What is the fuel tank capapcity in CS?

svsantosh · 13th June 2008, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by trrk

Hi Santosh,

Crank the engine to start it about 10 seconds after the heater light goes off.

That is good mileage. It could be more than 15 also. What is the fuel tank capapcity in CS?

--- will try that trick - not sure what you want to see though, is it something to do engine not starting after the 10Sec glow plug cooling?

--- 42 as per manual - but I always do a tankful - tankful (shake it till brim until airbubbles come out)

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10th June 2008, 11:16	#107
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,289 Thanked: 8,080 Times View My Garage	Hi all, I missed one day and find my thread as long as rope - thanks all for your inputs. I am going to do a Answer ALL here... 1) Yes, day by day the bearings are setting in and I can feel to drive it around 1500-1800RPM, BOOST is above 2K though. I am sure after 1 service it should improve. 2) FE - after the 1st day tank fill did around 200Kms, still a good way to the go less than half way mark. Anyways not bothered till 2-3K KMS until it settles down. 3) using heater control for AC chill is a good idea, will experiment. 4) GArage updated. 5) Pwer widw - Auto COP, does a good job, I am a bit sceptical about its installer though, Need to show to a autocop mechanic (company walla), feels like the motor isnt getting the full power while going up. 6) Got the Manual updated with CS Details fully. 7) TWO funny things - B Pillar has a sticker for air pressure recomend - reads Indigo Marina - 27 27 for all 4 ----- engine timing cover also has a sticker reading Indigo Marina with some bar codes and a engine# matching mine, must feel good to have one engine fitting 3-4 car models!!!! 8) I drove a ALTO for 5 years with 90/100 bulbs setup and badly missing it - but CS has got the fog lamps to help me out. Surely going for the 90100 though. 9) Spent the entire MONDAY at Anwar's Auto Fusion - Kormangla - Bangalore - got the following setup. -----ICE Setup----- HU - Pioneer 3050UB (over from Alto) Amp - JBL 4Ch - GT5 - A604 (New) Front - JBL Compo - GTO507C (New) Rear - JBL CoAxials- 69 937's Scoshe EFX wiring - Sound Dampners for front doors. ------------------------------------------ Also got Auto Cop central Locking setup - Not Connected to Indicator blinkers, Siren Disconnected and Reverse Gear siren also not connected. ONLY ONLY Door lock and unlock. --------------- Total Installation - ICE + Ctrl Lock - 6000Rs (Includes rear wood plank, 1 RCA Cable (i had other), sound damping) Auto Cop - 4200Rs Compos and Amp - 9650 (I kno...Wait - this includes A Buyback of 1000Rs for my JBL 4" from Alto front, and a 2Ch Sony Amp for 1500Rs) TOTAL Price - 19,850. (ICE+AutoCop) Sence of having a GREAT ICE (really) and a lazy approach to secure the door locks (PRICELESS) ---------------- ----------EDIT----------- ICE Pics follows in some time---------- Last edited by svsantosh : 10th June 2008 at 11:20.*
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11th June 2008, 10:42	#108
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,289 Thanked: 8,080 Times View My Garage	Njoy the ICE Install and AutoCop Central Locking install photos. Done on 9-June-2008, Bangalore at Anwar/Thouqueer's Auto Fusion, Koramangla. Specs and cost in previous post. Attached Thumbnails
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11th June 2008, 10:53	#109
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	why'd you settle for 5" comps. You could have gotten away with 6 inchers on spacer rings Also , have you done something to the rear tray? Last edited by greenhorn : 11th June 2008 at 10:55.
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11th June 2008, 16:10	#113
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	i think the price difference should be minimal ~500 rs Last edited by greenhorn : 11th June 2008 at 16:11.
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12th June 2008, 15:02	#114
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,289 Thanked: 8,080 Times View My Garage	500 Rs.. ok never mind I am having a blast with the current setup. So money;s is well spent. ---------- Update--------- I was driving back with better half back to home from office yesterday, listening to a mild AR Rehman number, suddenly - a HUGE bang from the speakers, (rear). i pulled over, and pushed the codriver seat forward and saw the AMp light was off, there was a mild crackle in the speakers before that bang - I immediately took of the HU panel to make sure nothing works - and checked out the amp and all spekers for any burnt smell or something like that. nothing - so I left it there and decided to check it in day light. Drove to Anwar's in morning and he still wasnt there - I explained the issue to one more installer - who did the work actually - and found the problem ASAP. If you look at the install pics a few posts earlier - you will notice the speaker output wire very close to the Seat frame... there was one fouling with one of the Steel seat frames while driving over bad roads. So it was effectively shorting out when ever it touched the frame. I got the frame covered with plaster so that it doesnt foul any more - and took a real long TD till hosur and back - nearly 70Kms over VERY VERY bad roads and at high Volume and feel the problem is sorted out. I was also assured the JBL does a Auto Trip every time it senses a short - there are 2 inbuilt fuses for the AMP and 1 more near the battery compartment. So he said there will be no damage to the amp unit. ------------- Keep watching...
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12th June 2008, 15:19	#115
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,772 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	Congrats Santhosh, I am sure your boss at the office is feeling just as jealous as shown in the CS ad
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bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 613 Thanked: 107 Times	Santhosh ,How is the NVH levels of CS?
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13th June 2008, 11:45	#118
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	the idling NVH of the TDi is annoying , but once the turbo kicks in, it becomes very rev happy,till upto about 4k rpm, and even though it is loud, i wouldn't call it noise
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13th June 2008, 14:59	#119
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,113 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	Hi Santosh, > And the Idling noise is Loud (Accept it), am not sure how to kill that in > cabin noise Except for music, nothing else will reduce the idling noise. The DICOR is equally vocal (or more) in this respect. The latter scores on driveability over the TDi. > The ride is something I am very very happy about - its super soft & smooth What I felt too in my short test ride. Even for the short distance, I could feel the difference. Can you try the following and tell me whether you feel any difference: Crank the engine to start it as soon as the heater light goes off (you may be doing this now). Crank the engine to start it about 10 seconds after the heater light goes off. Thanks. > after 300Kms now the needle is just on the half way mark (after major city + AC always) - looks like still around 15 mark - pretty Ok for me for a new > car. That is good mileage. It could be more than 15 also. What is the fuel tank capapcity in CS? Last edited by trrk : 13th June 2008 at 15:03. Reason: adding another point
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