Suspension and engine Mods for Alto LX!

speedzak · 14th September 2006, 21:00

, I've got something nice today; A sports steering wheel.

As I was strolling through the car shops here, I found this nice steering wheel and just grabbed it. It's sporty, small and looks good too. It matches my interior colour theme too.

And the engine upgrade is slowly but for sure taking place. And what would be the best option for the headers? 4X2X1 or 4X1??

karthik247 · 14th September 2006, 21:16

BTW, if a Baleno/Esteem engine can be plonked into a Zen, why not into an Alto??

harmon_bro · 14th September 2006, 21:42

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Originally Posted by speedzak

, I've got something nice today; A sports steering wheel.

As I was strolling through the car shops here, I found this nice steering wheel and just grabbed it. It's sporty, small and looks good too. It matches my interior colour theme too.

And the engine upgrade is slowly but for sure taking place. And what would be the best option for the headers? 4X2X1 or 4X1??

ZAk please send pictures of the steering wheel and the cost of the same.

speedzak · 15th September 2006, 00:59

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Originally Posted by karthik247

BTW, if a Baleno/Esteem engine can be plonked into a Zen, why not into an Alto??

I'd love to do that! But I'm more interested in getting an engine plonked in without much alteration to the engine mounts. As this procedure can cause much vibrations to the car.
The WagonR engine is almost a bolt on for Alto. So that's more easier and less of trouble. And it will (hopefully) operate peacefully and smooth.

@Harmon_bro. I'll do that for sure. You can check my garage for more details.

v1p3r · 15th September 2006, 01:03

Putting in anything bigger than the 1.1/1.3 designed specifically for the Alto will be a real nightmare. The engine bay is tiny, and the mountings are all different. My advice would be a 1.1 fully blown, turbo everything...close to 100 bhp. Or source one of the imported Wagon R engines.

Why do you want a new set of headers, considering you are planning an engine swap? Just stick to one thing, and if you have too much money to concentrate, there are always some of us willing to help you with that problem

speedzak · 15th September 2006, 02:40

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Why do you want a new set of headers, considering you are planning an engine swap? Just stick to one thing, and if you have too much money to concentrate, there are always some of us willing to help you with that problem

C'mon now, dont be caught sleeping again.
The headers now are 3X1. And the new engine will be a 4 cylinders for sure and the current headers will have to be changed naa?? to something like 4X2X1???

speedzak · 16th September 2006, 16:10

Does anybody use JDM ECU on their cars??

I want to know details of it.

jkdas · 16th September 2006, 16:31

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Originally Posted by speedzak

Does anybody use JDM ECU on their cars??

I want to know details of it.

I think ford_rocam or so does.

speedzak · 16th September 2006, 20:55

Guys, is there any problems in converting an MPFI engine to a carburettor one?
Has anybody done this? What are the works involved?

jkdas · 16th September 2006, 21:57

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Originally Posted by speedzak

Guys, is there any problems in converting an MPFI engine to a carburettor one?
Has anybody done this? What are the works involved?

but why?

back to old days?

speedzak · 16th September 2006, 23:21

No! There's an engine lying without any wiring or ECU.
There're 2 options to get this engine up and running in my car.
Option 1:
Find a suitable ECU and wiring for this and plonk it in.
This will be expensive.

Option 2:
Convert the MPFI to a carburettor and ignore all ECU and wiring etc..

Which is the best option?
Experts!

v1p3r · 17th September 2006, 03:06

Find JDM part codes and order them. I'm sure they're available second-hand somewhere.

viper · 17th September 2006, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedzak

No! There's an engine lying without any wiring or ECU.
There're 2 options to get this engine up and running in my car.
Option 1:
Find a suitable ECU and wiring for this and plonk it in.
This will be expensive.

Option 2:
Convert the MPFI to a carburettor and ignore all ECU and wiring etc..

Which is the best option?
Experts!

Hi,

Which engine is this that is available. Would recommend the Carb route. Put in a single Webber 40 DCOE and you will be set.

Viper

speedzak · 17th September 2006, 12:01

It's a 1.3litre esteem engine lying here in a workshop. But no wiring, Ecu etc.. Rest everything seems to be fine. I heard about the possibility of coverting to carburettor without these. So thought about it.
which is the best suitable engine for alto to achieve a smooth power upgrade?

kpzen · 17th September 2006, 12:15

Dont think esteem engine can be put in an Alto without some major modification especially the mounting part.....Its better to get the 1.1.....

The stock 1.1 engine itself is so fast n with your FF n filter it would be more than enough....

14th September 2006, 21:00	#91
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	, I've got something nice today; A sports steering wheel. As I was strolling through the car shops here, I found this nice steering wheel and just grabbed it. It's sporty, small and looks good too. It matches my interior colour theme too. And the engine upgrade is slowly but for sure taking place. And what would be the best option for the headers? 4X2X1 or 4X1??
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karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	BTW, if a Baleno/Esteem engine can be plonked into a Zen, why not into an Alto??
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15th September 2006, 01:03	#95
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Putting in anything bigger than the 1.1/1.3 designed specifically for the Alto will be a real nightmare. The engine bay is tiny, and the mountings are all different. My advice would be a 1.1 fully blown, turbo everything...close to 100 bhp. Or source one of the imported Wagon R engines. Why do you want a new set of headers, considering you are planning an engine swap? Just stick to one thing, and if you have too much money to concentrate, there are always some of us willing to help you with that problem
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speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Does anybody use JDM ECU on their cars?? I want to know details of it.
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16th September 2006, 20:55	#99
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Guys, is there any problems in converting an MPFI engine to a carburettor one? Has anybody done this? What are the works involved?
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16th September 2006, 23:21	#101
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	No! There's an engine lying without any wiring or ECU. There're 2 options to get this engine up and running in my car. Option 1: Find a suitable ECU and wiring for this and plonk it in. This will be expensive. Option 2: Convert the MPFI to a carburettor and ignore all ECU and wiring etc.. Which is the best option? Experts!
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17th September 2006, 03:06	#102
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Find JDM part codes and order them. I'm sure they're available second-hand somewhere.
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17th September 2006, 12:01	#104
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	It's a 1.3litre esteem engine lying here in a workshop. But no wiring, Ecu etc.. Rest everything seems to be fine. I heard about the possibility of coverting to carburettor without these. So thought about it. which is the best suitable engine for alto to achieve a smooth power upgrade? Last edited by speedzak : 17th September 2006 at 12:04.
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17th September 2006, 12:15	#105
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Dont think esteem engine can be put in an Alto without some major modification especially the mounting part.....Its better to get the 1.1..... The stock 1.1 engine itself is so fast n with your FF n filter it would be more than enough....
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